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18 dead in elementary school shooting in Tx.

middleview

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When these guys show upon your front lawn, and you don't have a gun (preferably a fully automatic rifle), you could maybe offer them lollipops ? >>


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I have a phone...the last time I called 911 they were here in minutes....

Better that than I get into a gun fight with a mob because they have tattoos.

Do you know of anyone discovering a bunch of these guys on their front lawns.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Right to privacy, right not to be deprived of liberty without due process of law, right to bear arms
"Privacy" is violated how?
The background check looks for felony convictions...those are public information. There is your due process....when the individual was convicted....or ordered into a mental health treatment center.
The right to bear arms is not without responsibility. Background checks have been ruled time and time again to be constitutional.
 

Spamature

President
Who cares? Dead is dead. If you had a choice between dying instantly in an accidental car crash or dying instantly by an intentional gun shot would it matter? THINK
So in your mind a Muslim terrorist shooting up a Christian church no different from a homeowner shooting a child molester who broke into his kid's bedroom at night.

Dead is dead...
 

Spamature

President
FALSE! Some mass shooters have extensive criminal records deliberately covered up, before they commit mass shootings (ex Nicholas Cruz in the Parkland Massacre).
He bought his guns legally, and did he not have a legal right to possess them before the massacre ?
 

Spamature

President
If they can get guns wi


Sometimes it is necessary to read the fine print of these link articles. I did not have to get "training" to get my CCW permit (because I am a military veteran, who already had firearms training). And a "permit"is just a plastic ID card. Does this new law do away with background checks ? I'd very surprised if it did.
Nor did the guy who shot up that school need to get training for one, and he wasn't a military vet who already had firearm training. Or do you think that gun laws only apply to your situation ?

Nor does your military training preclude you from being a maniac.
Or did you forget the man with military training who went into that church in Texas and kill 26 people as they worshiped.

But it was 2 Texas mass shootings ago.
So you might get lost in the shuffle of mass shootings.
 

Spamature

President
@protectionist named a program that was implemented by the Broward county...not Obama....so there is that....
That's how it works with them.

If a board member of the school in some tiny district in California proposes a stupid idea, that person represents the entire spectrum of political views on the left and their actions are of national consequence.

While their entire party can state that something is their goal for decades, yet they have nothing to with any of the fall-out that comes from it.
 

EatTheRich

President
"Privacy" is violated how?
The background check looks for felony convictions...those are public information. There is your due process....when the individual was convicted....or ordered into a mental health treatment center.
The right to bear arms is not without responsibility. Background checks have been ruled time and time again to be constitutional.
1. By the background checks.
2. Ex post facto application of felon disarmament is not due process, and there are also equal protection issues with felon disarmament based on racist application of the laws. Not to mention it may not be such a good idea. Huey P. Newton wasn’t able to carry a pistol because of such laws.
3. Why should responsible gun owners be punished for what irresponsible gun owners do?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
1. By the background checks.
2. Ex post facto application of felon disarmament is not due process, and there are also equal protection issues with felon disarmament based on racist application of the laws. Not to mention it may not be such a good idea. Huey P. Newton wasn’t able to carry a pistol because of such laws.
3. Why should responsible gun owners be punished for what irresponsible gun owners do?
1. Nope. No personal information is made public. The FFL enters your name and driver's license info and either a yes or no comes back.
2. The felon is not being disarmed. His attempt to be armed is denied.
3. How is a responsible gun owner being punished? By denying him the right to arm a felon?
 

condorkristy

Mostly Liberal
1. Nope. No personal information is made public. The FFL enters your name and driver's license info and either a yes or no comes back.
2. The felon is not being disarmed. His attempt to be armed is denied.
3. How is a responsible gun owner being punished? By denying him the right to arm a felon?
Well, when the neighborhood sporting goods store tells him no, take heart.... the gun show in the parking lot will sell him as many weapons as he wants no questions asked.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Well, when the neighborhood sporting goods store tells him no, take heart.... the gun show in the parking lot will sell him as many weapons as he wants no questions asked.
I don't know about where you live but sales of guns require a background check in Colorado. There is no loophole here for gun shows or private sales.

I sold a handgun not long ago and went up to the gun shop where I bought it, met the buyer there and paid $25 for his background check...took about 15 minutes.
 
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