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Regarding permabanned members

Zam-Zam

Senator
It seems to me that the solution here is very simple:

Treat your fellow posters with dignity and respect, even if you disagree with them.

Do that, and you will be in no danger of being banned.

What could be simpler?

It's all good.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
I'll just leave this here..

All are welcome. Except where numerous (and I mean numerous) attempts were made and chances given...and certain posters simply could not manage to refrain from vulgar insult, or repeated attack, or other issue with administration.

To them....tuff shit. That's on you.

Everyone else....there's a way forward. It's for you to find
 

PNWest

America's BEST American: Impartial and Bipartisan
This isnt a jury situation.. it's a poli site. Too bad.

Abuse of power? Odd. No. Vulgar insults...and excessive personal attacks are against our rules...when they become too much/many the remedy is applied.
"Vulgar insults...and excessive personal attacks are against our rules..."

Like calling someone:
" what a [Unwelcome language removed] pig."?

Of course it is an abuse of power for you to permanently ban someone for the reasons that YOU stated.

Just as it was an abuse of power to throw crap at me a couple posts down because I had the audacity to express my opinion on it. You did this knowing full well that I have no chance to respond to your comment.

It would not have been hard at all to ask another moderator who wasn't part of the discussion to pass judgement on YOUR compliant. It would have been the ETHICAL thing to do.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
"Vulgar insults...and excessive personal attacks are against our rules..."

Like calling someone:
" what a [Unwelcome language removed] pig."?

Of course it is an abuse of power for you to permanently ban someone for the reasons that YOU stated.

Just as it was an abuse of power to throw crap at me a couple posts down because I had the audacity to express my opinion on it. You did this knowing full well that I have no chance to respond to your comment.

It would not have been hard at all to ask another moderator who wasn't part of the discussion to pass judgement on YOUR compliant. It would have been the ETHICAL thing to do.
Who says we didn't discuss it?

See...your desperate need for make shit up ism betrays you.

We did. Now what? I know...don't babble ethics. We pass pretty much everything past one another.

Abuse of power? Stand up and be a man, don't make it up and have a dialogue... See?

But you can't.or won't . Like this dialogue..

Ethics, abuse, blah blah.. all manner of unadult insinuation.

Her history is clear. When she can't make or defend a point..she starts with the racist insinuation and personal attacks. One too many times. An the last one...personal..and vulgar.

There's a limit, and it's within our rules. Don't like it...can't behave any way other than an ass or by making things up not said.... Then beat it.

And don't cry like a baby...I can't respond..waaa.. you have every chance to respond to whatever you wish. This isn't rocket science..just talk.

Tell Julie hi. But no.

You see..I attacked no relation of hers .. ever. She, on the other hand went to my kid...more than once mind you...and this last one.....so vulgar. I'm sorry...no. my kid is not in any way shape or form a school shooter...like a school shooter..or any other insinuation. Period.

Didn't want a ban she says... Waa. Shouldn't be...waaa... Then guess what..don't shit on.
 
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PNWest

America's BEST American: Impartial and Bipartisan
Who says we didn't discuss it?

See...your desperate need for make shit up ism betrays you.

We did. Now what? I know...don't babble ethics. We pass pretty much everything past one another.

Abuse of power? Stand up and be a man, don't make it up and have a dialogue... See?

But you can't.or won't . Like this dialogue..

Ethics, abuse, blah blah.. all manner of unadult insinuation.

Hey history is clear. When she can't make or defend a point..she starts with the racist insinuation and personal attacks. One too many times. An the last one...personal..and vulgar.

There's a limit... and d it's within our rules. Don't like it...can't behave any way other that an ass or by making things up not said.... Then beat it.

And don't cry like a baby...I can't respond..waaa.. you have every chance to respond to whatever you wish. This isn't rocket science..just talk.

Tell Julie hi. But no.

You see..I attacked no relation of hers .. ever. She, on the other hand went to my kid...more than once mind you...and this last one.....so vulgar. I'm sorry...no my kid is not in any way shape or form a school shooter...like a school shooter..or any other insinuation. Period.

Didn't want a ban she says... Waa. Shouldn't be...waaa... The guess what..don't shit on.
Sounds a bit defensive Phil. Anyone else been banned that hasn't made it to the Penalty Box thread? I guess there are no plans to open that thread up to responses? Nice when you can have your say and no one else can.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Sounds a bit defensive Phil. Anyone else been banned that hasn't made it to the Penalty Box thread? I guess there are no plans to open that thread up to responses? Nice when you can have your say and no one else can.
no. it's really litle more than you whining. like i said, tell julie hi.

that thread, by design, is not open to opinions.. it is a notice board.

if you'd like to have a say on something.. start a thread in an appropriate area of the site.
 

PNWest

America's BEST American: Impartial and Bipartisan
no. it's really litle more than you whining. like i said, tell julie hi.

that thread, by design, is not open to opinions.. it is a notice board.

if you'd like to have a say on something.. start a thread in an appropriate area of the site.

I didn't think so. If it is just a notice board as you claim then why was your comment about me there? I wasn't a prat of that shadow ban. I had nothing to do with it. No where else on that notice board is there a single comment of that nature other than your dig at me.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
I didn't think so. If it is just a notice board as you claim then why was your comment about me there? I wasn't a prat of that shadow ban. I had nothing to do with it. No where else on that notice board is there a single comment of that nature other than your dig at me.
Wait..is that what this is about. Jeebis I had to go back and look.. cause I responded to your frowny face??

Lol. I'll ewase it .you can stop with the vapors now.
 

PNWest

America's BEST American: Impartial and Bipartisan
Wait..is that what this is about. Jeebis I had to go back and look.. cause I responded to your frowny face??

Lol. I'll ewase it .you can stop with the vapors now.
You wouldn't have to erase if it wasn't wrong to put it up in the first place.
 

PNWest

America's BEST American: Impartial and Bipartisan
It wasn't wrong to put it up in the first place. Now What do we do?
We go back to our normal state of affairs - Me dancing as close to the line as I can and you just waiting to ban me if I go over it. Agreed?
 

Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
Inquiring minds what to know.


Thanks for the link, PN. I haven't been on PJ very often these days. I have missed many of the lively discussions. Your link helped to fill me in. :)
 

PNWest

America's BEST American: Impartial and Bipartisan
Thanks for the link, PN. I haven't been on PJ very often these days. I have missed many of the lively discussions. Your link helped to fill me in. :)
You are very welcome. PM me if you want more info.
 

Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
Anyway. To your point

I think the more the merrier.

However ... personal attacks and vulgarities levied at children.... No. That'll take some work.


Meanwhile...others.... Make your suggestions.. I'm sure they'll need to be discussed....but you've always been fair. Go for it
Understood, Phil.
I have confidence in the moderators' abilities to know which members bring oxygen to our PJ Forum and those members who suck the oxygen out of PJ.
 

Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
Speaking as a Moderator, I am not aware of any written rules or policy about reinstatement. I should think they would be in a pinned post if there were any.

As a member,I rarely read or post here now because of the toxicity. I can think of some banned members who would drag this site lower if they were reinstated.
Okay, Thanks, BD.
Reinstating some of those banned would have downsides, just as you stated.
 
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