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God of War

Governor
You're really going to pretend the transes haven't been loudly complaining about people defending themselves against rape and getting laws pushed through that declare you're not allowed to use force to defend yourself against rape?

Here they are in their own twisted words talking about how people should not be allowed to use force Against a rapist. Are you really that ignorant, or are you being disingenuous?

@EatTheRich

There is no irrational fear that a gay man or a transsexual man have a high rate diseases of all kinds. Including lifelong disease and deadly diseases.

The dishonesty implies being fooled into taking more risk than was acceptable initially.
 

EatTheRich

President
You work with trans (are a trans) to know these things as fact? Why do you think trans hookers are killed more than regular hookers? If they even are. Trans hookers take more risks than hookers because they are men?

I feel bad that trans people have an untreated mental illness most likely based in some childhood trauma (molestation) but I really can't care enough to let the movement mess with the kids in school.
I do work with a guy who is trans, and guess what? He is a great guy, a great host, unfailingly polite and respectful, and just like us except he has a pussy and a womb and was assigned female at birth.

Most hookers are killed by robbers or rapists. People who are trans are selectively targeted by robbers and rapists because they are more vulnerable due to people like you not treating them as fully human.

You’re the one messing with kids in school if you don’t let trans kids be themselves. You have no indication that being trans is a mental illness.
 

God of War

Governor
This isn’t about “using force against a rapist.” It’s about attacking someone because you find out they’re trans. Again, if gender identity is such a big deal to you then you need to ask before trying to hook up.
Fraud is a crime. Pretending to be a woman when you're mentally ill is no excuse for those high functioning mentally ill trans men.
 

God of War

Governor
I do work with a guy who is trans, and guess what? He is a great guy, a great host, unfailingly polite and respectful, and just like us except he has a pussy and a womb and was assigned female at birth.

Most hookers are killed by robbers or rapists. People who are trans are selectively targeted by robbers and rapists because they are more vulnerable due to people like you not treating them as fully human.

You’re the one messing with kids in school if you don’t let trans kids be themselves. You have no indication that being trans is a mental illness.
There is every indication they are mentally ill. Doesn't mean they can't be great people. The trans and gay can make family of just about anybody and that is certainly an admirable quality

If a kid is trans they need mental health intervention and have the mental illness explained to his or her classmates so that compassion can be practiced. Like you would for anorexic kids in class or Downes or autism afflicted children. But it can't be aggrandized or normalized or it will enforce the mental illness and possibly pass it on to others.
 

EatTheRich

President
There is every indication they are mentally ill. Doesn't mean they can't be great people. The trans and gay can make family of just about anybody and that is certainly an admirable quality

If a kid is trans they need mental health intervention and have the mental illness explained to his or her classmates so that compassion can be practiced. Like you would for anorexic kids in class or Downes or autism afflicted children. But it can't be aggrandized or normalized or it will enforce the mental illness and possibly pass it on to others.
It is normal though. The consensus of people who are actually experts on mental health is that the only thing wrong with most trans people is the anxiety that comes from being stigmatized or forced to deny their gender identity, and the complications often stemming therefrom (depression, addiction, etc.)
 

God of War

Governor
Again, it is you insisting that trans men pretend to be women instead of acknowledging that they are men.
A man who wants to be a woman is a trans man. That has always been the definition and will remain the definition to avoid confusion and to avoid re-enforcing the mental illness.
 

Zijlstra

Council Member
No. They present as women, because they are, and straight men find themselves attracted to them, because they are women.
If they were, they wouldn't have to 'transition' and they wouldn't be trans.

The prefix 'trans' means 'across'. They are 'transwomen' because they are not women but wish to cross over the lines of sex. J


Definition of trans- (Entry 3 of 3)
1: on or to the other side of : across : beyond



trans-
Share:
pref.
1. Across; on the other side; beyond: transpolar.
2. Through: transcontinental.
3. Change; transfer: transliterate.
4. Having a pair of identical atoms on opposite sides of two atoms linked by a double bond. Used of a geometric isomer: trans-butene.
[From Latin trāns-, from trāns, across, beyond, through; see terə-2 in the Appendix of Indo-European roots.]

 

EatTheRich

President
Fraud is intended to be attractive. It is the means implemented by fraud. It is an purposeful intended deception.
Why don’t straight guys ever pick up drag queens? Why is there such a huge difference between how straight guys respond to drag queens and how they respond to trans women?
 

EatTheRich

President
Women have vaginas. To pretend you have a real vagina and don't is fraud.
Are intersex people committing fraud if you assume they have vaginas when they really have the ambiguous genitalia they were born with? Or is that something you should find out before getting together if you really care that much?
 

Zijlstra

Council Member
A man who wants to be a woman is a transsexual man period... er NO period actually... so NOT a woman therefore a transsexual man. Redefining is going to end too.
You've that exactly backward when it comes to the terminology. By definition, a trans man is a woman who wishes to cross over and be perceived or treated as a man. They would arguably be more accurately described by the prefix crypto- or pseudo- than trans-, but the lexicon is what it is and if you want to understand and be understood in these discussions you need to understand the established lexicon.
 

God of War

Governor
That doesn’t make sense. Men don’t want to be women. Women want to be women.
Biology determines who is male and who is female. The other way is mental illness. You may well be afflicted lifelong with the mental illness and it is worthy of compassion but not indulgence. You don't indulge mental illness. It makes it worse and may even promulgate it so that the affliction spreads to others.
 
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