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Zawahiri gets a mouthful of drone strike.

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I've read what you did. Clinton bombed an 'aspirin factory'. Hindsight is 20/20.

Any strike made in the attempt to kill a terrorist was different before 9/11.
The question becomes why did Clinton AND Bush refrain from killing bin Laden when they had the opportunity?

NOVEMBER 1, 2004How Bush Was Offered Bin Laden and Blew It

"George Bush, the man whose prime campaign plank has been his ability to wage war on terror, could have had Osama bin Laden’s head handed to him on a platter on his very first day in office, and the offer held good until February 2 of 2002.

"This is the charge leveled by an Afghan American who had been retained by the US government as an intermediary between the Taliban and both the Clinton and Bush administrations."
 
Bin Laden still would have existed. He first joined the Afghanis fighting the Russians after their invasion. Blaming the US is dumb.
What role did the US play in instigating the Russian invasion of Afghanistan?

https://dgibbs.faculty.arizona.edu/brzezinski_interview

"Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs that the American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahiddin in Afghanistan six months before the Soviet intervention. Is this period, you were the national securty advisor to President Carter. You therefore played a key role in this affair. Is this correct?

"Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahiddin began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan on December 24, 1979.

"But the reality, closely guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul.

"And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention [emphasis added throughout]."
 

middleview

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What role did the US play in instigating the Russian invasion of Afghanistan?

https://dgibbs.faculty.arizona.edu/brzezinski_interview

"Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs that the American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahiddin in Afghanistan six months before the Soviet intervention. Is this period, you were the national securty advisor to President Carter. You therefore played a key role in this affair. Is this correct?

"Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahiddin began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan on December 24, 1979.

"But the reality, closely guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul.

"And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention [emphasis added throughout]."
The Russians invaded because the people fighting against the communist regime in Kabul were getting guns from the US? Did you know that the US ambassador to Afghanistan was murdered by assassins linked to the Russians and Kabul? That was in early 1979. Carter sent about $700k in aid to the rebels in 1979.

Minutes of a politburo meeting showed Gromyko saying "we cannot lose Afghanistan". That was in March 1979.


The Russians invaded at the end of 1979....and killed the head of the government in Kabul.

So what is your point?
 
The Russians invaded because the people fighting against the communist regime in Kabul were getting guns from the US? Did you know that the US ambassador to Afghanistan was murdered by assassins linked to the Russians and Kabul? That was in early 1979. Carter sent about $700k in aid to the rebels in 1979.
Do you know if the CIA was provoking Islamist attacks against the southern border of the USSR before Dubs was kidnapped?

https://www.rferl.org/a/years-on-mystery-still-surrounds-shooting-death-of-u-s-ambassador-to-afghanistan/29770272.html

"On February 14, 1979, Adolph Dubs, the U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan, was kidnapped at gunpoint, held hostage in a Kabul hotel, and killed in a botched rescue attempt.

"Forty years on, the precise circumstances surrounding the death of the 58-year-old diplomat remain shrouded in mystery.

"Several questions remain unanswered, including who was behind Dubs' kidnapping, who fired the fatal shots, and whether the Soviet Union was involved."
 
Do you think it'll make all the difference?
I don't think so.
I'm still expecting Dems to lose (big?) in November.
As long as Americans continue voting against the Democrat or Republican they hate the most, the status quo is secure. If millions of US voters ever decide to select their House and Senate choices from established third party candidates already appearing on their ballots,...:eek:
 

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I don't think so.
I'm still expecting Dems to lose (big?) in November.
As long as Americans continue voting against the Democrat or Republican they hate the most, the status quo is secure. If millions of US voters ever decide to select their House and Senate choices from established third party candidates already appearing on their ballots,...:eek:
I think that may be the case.
 

middleview

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Do you know if the CIA was provoking Islamist attacks against the southern border of the USSR before Dubs was kidnapped?

https://www.rferl.org/a/years-on-mystery-still-surrounds-shooting-death-of-u-s-ambassador-to-afghanistan/29770272.html

"On February 14, 1979, Adolph Dubs, the U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan, was kidnapped at gunpoint, held hostage in a Kabul hotel, and killed in a botched rescue attempt.

"Forty years on, the precise circumstances surrounding the death of the 58-year-old diplomat remain shrouded in mystery.

"Several questions remain unanswered, including who was behind Dubs' kidnapping, who fired the fatal shots, and whether the Soviet Union was involved."
You've strayed pretty far from the point...which had to do with blaming the US for Bin Laden.
 

Dawg

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Patriots do not like seeing Americans held hostage abroad. Trust me.
So why has the Marine been held in Russia prison since 2028 and Foley for longer than that?

Leftist didn't give a damn until some America hating lesbian basketball player got busted for dope and American prisons also full of Americans for dope and Kamala put many of them in there.

I hope they play the National Anthem 24/7/365 in her cell for next 9 years and make you listen as well. Of course you leftist want to trade the 'Merchan Of Death' for her so he can ensure more Americans are killed.

86 You
 

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So why has the Marine been held in Russia prison since 2028 and Foley for longer than that?

Leftist didn't give a damn until some America hating lesbian basketball player got busted for dope and American prisons also full of Americans for dope and Kamala put many of them in there.

I hope they play the National Anthem 24/7/365 in her cell for next 9 years and make you listen as well. Of course you leftist want to trade the 'Merchan Of Death' for her so he can ensure more Americans are killed.

86 You
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