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Letitia James is too stupid to have come up with that on her own.

Yeah.... ummmm below is a "mystery".... :rolleyes:

She doesn’t have jurisdiction to charge crimes. She has urged state and federal authorities with that jurisdiction to file criminal charges.

Mystery solved.


Please explain oh wise one, how the STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF NEW YORK does not have jurisdiction to file a criminal case?
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
Yeah.... ummmm below is a "mystery".... :rolleyes:





Please explain oh wise one, how the STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF NEW YORK does not have jurisdiction to file a criminal case?
Well, according to Letitia James's NY state website:

The Attorney General's authority to prosecute crimes is found throughout the laws of New York State. For example, the Attorney General has independent criminal jurisdiction to prosecute fraud in the sale of securities, bid-rigging, and violations of the New York State Labor Laws dealing with the amount that workers must be paid.


Criminal Division | New York State Attorney General (ny.gov)


If she has no such authority, I suggest they update their website. :D
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Yeah.... ummmm below is a "mystery".... :rolleyes:





Please explain oh wise one, how the STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF NEW YORK does not have jurisdiction to file a criminal case?
Read this, and then apologize for your ignorance…

“She concluded that Mr. Trump and his business violated state criminal laws and “plausibly” broke federal laws as well. Her office, which lacks authority to file criminal charges in this case, referred the findings to federal prosecutors in Manhattan. They declined to comment on whether they would investigate.”

 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Well, according to Letitia James's NY state website:

The Attorney General's authority to prosecute crimes is found throughout the laws of New York State. For example, the Attorney General has independent criminal jurisdiction to prosecute fraud in the sale of securities, bid-rigging, and violations of the New York State Labor Laws dealing with the amount that workers must be paid.


Criminal Division | New York State Attorney General (ny.gov)


If she has no such authority, I suggest they update their website. :D
No need to update their website. That link is to the Criminal Division of the NY AG’s office.
 
Read this, and then apologize for your ignorance…

“She concluded that Mr. Trump and his business violated state criminal laws and “plausibly” broke federal laws as well. Her office, which lacks authority to file criminal charges in this case, referred the findings to federal prosecutors in Manhattan. They declined to comment on whether they would investigate.”

Perhaps you should read it again, here let me break it down for you:

Let's begin shall we:

She concluded that Mr. Trump and his business violated state criminal laws

Please direct your attention to the last three words in that sentence: STATE CRIMINAL LAWS.....as in NY STATE.........

She is the State Attorney General of NY, if he violated state laws she could indict him for it. she has the highest authority in NY State to file a criminal case when NY State Law is involved.....
She didn't, not because she does not have juristidiction but because she does not have anything.

and “plausibly” broke federal laws as well. Her office, which lacks authority to file criminal charges in this case, referred the findings to federal prosecutors in Manhattan.

True, she has no authority to file a Federal Case (and with nothing to base a criminal case on) has resorted to begging somoene else to do it for her.........SDNY has looked at this for years and found ZILCH........

Good luck with all that.

By the way the article you got this from is a lot like the case itself.... Bullshit.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Perhaps you should read it again, here let me break it down for you:

Let's begin shall we:

She concluded that Mr. Trump and his business violated state criminal laws

Please direct your attention to the last three words in that sentence: STATE CRIMINAL LAWS.....as in NY STATE.........

She is the State Attorney General of NY, if he violated state laws she could indict him for it. she has the highest authority in NY State to file a criminal case when NY State Law is involved.....
She didn't, not because she does not have juristidiction but because she does not have anything.

and “plausibly” broke federal laws as well. Her office, which lacks authority to file criminal charges in this case, referred the findings to federal prosecutors in Manhattan.

True, she has no authority to file a Federal Case (and with nothing to base a criminal case on) has resorted to begging somoene else to do it for her.........SDNY has looked at this for years and found ZILCH........

Good luck with all that.

By the way the article you got this from is a lot like the case itself.... Bullshit.
Nope. The linked article confirms that her office has no authority to file criminal charges in this case, and that she has referred the case to the feds and the Manhattan DA for the bringing of criminal charges. You simply ignored those parts of the article.

BTW, if you ever wish to wonder how brainwashed you Trump cultists are, consider that you completely ignore the monstrous fraud described in the complaint, choosing instead to divert to yapping about which offices have the civil jurisdiction, and which offices have the criminal jurisdiction. Very telling.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
Perhaps you should read it again, here let me break it down for you:

Let's begin shall we:

She concluded that Mr. Trump and his business violated state criminal laws

Please direct your attention to the last three words in that sentence: STATE CRIMINAL LAWS.....as in NY STATE.........

She is the State Attorney General of NY, if he violated state laws she could indict him for it. she has the highest authority in NY State to file a criminal case when NY State Law is involved.....
She didn't, not because she does not have juristidiction but because she does not have anything.

and “plausibly” broke federal laws as well. Her office, which lacks authority to file criminal charges in this case, referred the findings to federal prosecutors in Manhattan.

True, she has no authority to file a Federal Case (and with nothing to base a criminal case on) has resorted to begging somoene else to do it for her.........SDNY has looked at this for years and found ZILCH........

Good luck with all that.

By the way the article you got this from is a lot like the case itself.... Bullshit.
The upshot here is, as far as I can tell:

No criminal charges.

Which means, no possibility of jail time...This is all about money. And headlines, of course.

Surprise, surprise.

:D
 
This is why you file a bullshit case against Trump when you are running the risk of losing an election.

Once the Useful Idiots get the talking point, they will carry the lie to the last breath, despite logic, reality and common sense.

Don't beleive me? Look below at the defense of a bullshit article from NYT, apparently, the NY State AG, has no authority to file a criminal case when NY state law has been violated. Who knew?.........Nobody


Nope. The linked article confirms that her office has no authority to file criminal charges in this case, and that she has referred the case to the feds and the Manhattan DA for the bringing of criminal charges. You simply ignored those parts of the article.

BTW, if you ever wish to wonder how brainwashed you Trump cultists are, consider that you completely ignore the monstrous fraud described in the complaint, choosing instead to divert to yapping about which offices have the civil jurisdiction, and which offices have the criminal jurisdiction. Very telling.
You can file this under the rest of the reality denying semantics of the Left, like "the border is secure" or "this is not a recession" or "inflation is at zero"...
 
The upshot here is, as far as I can tell:

No criminal charges.

Which means, no possibility of jail time...This is all about money. And headlines, of course.

Surprise, surprise.

:D
I don't see an upshot, the Democrats have normalized this type of thing and it does not bode well for the country long term. The damage this and the stuff they have been pulling since 2016 will take generations to fix if it ever is fixed.

There is a reason more and more people think this is a banana republic.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
I don't see an upshot, the Democrats have normalized this type of thing and it does not bode well for the country long term. The damage this and the stuff they have been pulling since 2016 will take generations to fix if it ever is fixed.

There is a reason more and more people think this is a banana republic.
I believe the aim is to keep this going into perpetuity...The results themselves seem to matter little, if at all.

The usual suspects will eat it up all the same.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
This is why you file a bullshit case against Trump when you are running the risk of losing an election.

Once the Useful Idiots get the talking point, they will carry the lie to the last breath, despite logic, reality and common sense.

Don't beleive me? Look below at the defense of a bullshit article from NYT, apparently, the NY State AG, has no authority to file a criminal case when NY state law has been violated. Who knew?.........Nobody




You can file this under the rest of the reality denying semantics of the Left, like "the border is secure" or "this is not a recession" or "inflation is at zero"...
I already discussed your attempt to divert to yapping about which office has what jurisdiction. You also yap about the lack of criminal charges thus far, and if they are filed you will screech about that. But you and your fellow Trump cultists simply refuse to discuss the monstrous fraud detailed in the complaint, so your off-topic yapping will continue. It’s just the way you Trump cultists roll. You have nothing sensible to say.
 
I already discussed your attempt to divert to yapping about which office has what jurisdiction. You also yap about the lack of criminal charges thus far, and if they are filed you will screech about that. But you and your fellow Trump cultists simply refuse to discuss the monstrous fraud detailed in the complaint, so your off-topic yapping will continue. It’s just the way you Trump cultists roll. You have nothing sensible to say.
Your obvious reading comprehension issues are not on me.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
What your link says...A military aide brings them to Biden, who then reads those documents in a secure space and then returns it to the aide.
Add to that...Biden is not the ex-president.

President Biden responds to a question about whether it is ever appropriate to take home classified documents. The president says it depends on the circumstances, adding that he is taking home the Presidential Daily Brief or PDB to read in a secure space and that once he has finished reading it he gives it back to military personnel traveling with him

So where did he say he puts those documents in a box and stores them in a closet in his basement?
 
You don’t have to worry about comprehending the monstrous fraud detailed in the complaint against Trump. You just ignore it.

;-)
So MONSTROUS she filed a civil case and NOT a criminal one...........just HUGE FRAUD.... SOOO HUGE apparently the Criminal Code does not apply..........

You live in bizaro world.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
So MONSTROUS she filed a civil case and NOT a criminal one...........just HUGE FRAUD.... SOOO HUGE apparently the Criminal Code does not apply..........

You live in bizaro world.
So is it fraud to do as Trump did or not? You can bitch about how she chose to address it all you like. The IRS may yet file a criminal case.
 
So is it fraud to do as Trump did or not? You can bitch about how she chose to address it all you like. The IRS may yet file a criminal case.
No, it's not. 226 pages and no mention of the banks, banks that would do their own dillegence on these properties and allowed the loans. Banks that have been paid back with interest...... a fraud SO HUGE....... that they filed a civil case....... it's bullshit to save her campaign.

As for the IRS well, ya have to give 87k new agents something to do.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
So is it fraud to do as Trump did or not? You can bitch about how she chose to address it all you like. The IRS may yet file a criminal case.
They screech when a criminal case is filed, and they screech when a criminal case is not filed.

Bottom line - they just like to screech.

;-)
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
No, it's not. 226 pages and no mention of the banks, banks that would do their own dillegence on these properties and allowed the loans. Banks that have been paid back with interest...... a fraud SO HUGE....... that they filed a civil case....... it's bullshit to save her campaign.

As for the IRS well, ya have to give 87k new agents something to do.
James has one document showing a huge value for a property that was used to obtain a loan and another showing a much lower amount for tax purposes. Still think no fraud?
 
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