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Oh oh, lefty better start back peddling...

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Biden on Thursday also challenged Russian nuclear doctrine, warning that the use of a lower-yield tactical weapon could quickly spiral out of control into global destruction.

“I don’t think there is any such a thing as the ability to easily use a tactical nuclear weapon and not end up with Armageddon,” Biden said.

He added that he was still “trying to figure” out Putin’s “off-ramp” in Ukraine.

“Where does he find a way out?” Biden asked. “Where does he find himself in a position that he does not only lose face but lose significant power within Russia?”



Old Brandon sounds like he actually understands the seriousness of the situation and is looking for a negotiated way out. Hell he almost sounds like someone who is really intelligent there...hmmmmm, who could that be?

Don't worry, I'm sure he went off script there and his neocon handlers will rectify that peace making rhetoric tout de suite. You neocon regime change cheerleaders can rest assured that the only thing Brandon is looking for a way out of is that ill advised comment.
 

PNWest

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Once upon a time, Republicans were patriots who would condemn the foreign leader who threatened the use of nukes. No longer. Now they condemn the US President responding to that threat. Why? Because he’s not in their political cult.
Hell, republicans these days would be happy if Russia nuked an American city as long as it was one that votes blue.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Hell, republicans these days would be happy if Russia nuked an American city as long as it was one that votes blue.
Jeez, I harken back to the time Bill “Billo the Clown” O’Reilly called for a nuking of San Francisco.

These people are simply awful.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Once upon a time, Republicans were patriots who would condemn the foreign leader who threatened the use of nukes. No longer. Now they condemn the US President responding to that threat. Why? Because he’s not in their political cult.
So you have precisely zero to say about the POTUS' comments regarding "finding an off ramp" for Putin? Of course not, because you have to wait to see if his statements get "walked back" by the real power in the WH, am I right?
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Hell, republicans these days would be happy if Russia nuked an American city as long as it was one that votes blue.
And another one can't bring himself to comment on these remarks, because as we all know, they are subject to revision.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
So you have precisely zero to say about the POTUS' comments regarding "finding an off ramp" for Putin? Of course not, because you have to wait to see if his statements get "walked back" by the real power in the WH, am I right?
He did not say he was looking for an off-ramp for Putin. His comment was about Putin painting himself into a corner with no real thought about what path he leaves himself.
So? Seems like a warning to Putin to quit making stupid threats.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
He did not say he was looking for an off-ramp for Putin. His comment was about Putin painting himself into a corner with no real thought about what path he leaves himself.
So? Seems like a warning to Putin to quit making stupid threats.
I think you are right - finding an "offramp" to WWIII is the furthest thing from (what's left of) his mind.
 

EatTheRich

President
So you have precisely zero to say about the POTUS' comments regarding "finding an off ramp" for Putin? Of course not, because you have to wait to see if his statements get "walked back" by the real power in the WH, am I right?
Not sure why you think any back pedaling would be required from Biden supporters. Seems to me his position hasn’t changed, it just wasn’t what you had been falsely pretending it was. I do not see anyone in the WH “walking back” the position that the U.S. would like to avoid nuclear war.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Not sure why you think any back pedaling would be required from Biden supporters. Seems to me his position hasn’t changed, it just wasn’t what you had been falsely pretending it was. I do not see anyone in the WH “walking back” the position that the U.S. would like to avoid nuclear war.

Usually, "avoiding" war requires discussions with the enemy aimed at finding an "off ramp." I think you are 100% correct that Brandon's idea of an "off ramp" is him getting 100% of what he wants. After all, "nobody f*cks with a Biden." Does that sound like the motto of a statesman?
 

EatTheRich

President
Usually, "avoiding" war requires discussions with the enemy aimed at finding an "off ramp." I think you are 100% correct that Brandon's idea of an "off ramp" is him getting 100% of what he wants. After all, "nobody f*cks with a Biden." Does that sound like the motto of a statesman?
Sometimes it means removing the warmonger from power.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
So you have precisely zero to say about the POTUS' comments regarding "finding an off ramp" for Putin? Of course not, because you have to wait to see if his statements get "walked back" by the real power in the WH, am I right?
I have no issue with what Biden said. Again, patriotic Americans are criticizing Putin for threatening the use of nukes. Not Biden. You wouldn’t understand.
 
Usually, "avoiding" war requires discussions with the enemy aimed at finding an "off ramp." I think you are 100% correct that Brandon's idea of an "off ramp" is him getting 100% of what he wants. After all, "nobody f*cks with a Biden." Does that sound like the motto of a statesman?
Russia is using violence as a means of achieving political goals. AKA terrorism.
There is a reason you don't negotiate with terrorism. If you do it begets more terrorism.

Osama Bin Laden: if you don't give me what I want I will detonate nuclear weapon
Lukey: Put on your niqabs, ladies. We are part of the caliphate now.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
I think you are right - finding an "offramp" to WWIII is the furthest thing from (what's left of) his mind.
Not up to Joe to find a face saving "off ramp" for Putin. Trump said Putin is a genius. Let him find his own off ramp. My suggestion is to withdraw troops from Ukraine and for him to support an election in Donbas.

He can hope for sanctions to ease and that he won't be forced to stand trial.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Russia is using violence as a means of achieving political goals. AKA terrorism.
There is a reason you don't negotiate with terrorism. If you do it begets more terrorism.

Osama Bin Laden: if you don't give me what I want I will detonate nuclear weapon
Lukey: Put on your niqabs, ladies. We are part of the caliphate now.
What was blm doing two summers ago? Are they "terrorists" too? Frankly, equating Putin with bin Laden is absurd. Bin Laden didn't have the world's largest supply of nukes on the planet, for one. Maybe every war isn't avoidable, but this one surely was.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
What was blm doing two summers ago? Are they "terrorists" too? Frankly, equating Putin with bin Laden is absurd. Bin Laden didn't have the world's largest supply of nukes on the planet, for one. Maybe every war isn't avoidable, but this one surely was.
Only one person wanted a war. He could have avoided it by not ordering the invasion.

The rioters of 2020 were terrorists. Were they BLM? Didn't look like it to me. They were anarchists or simply white kids on skate boards. People marching to protest police misconduct were not the ones breaking windows or looting.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Not up to Joe to find a face saving "off ramp" for Putin. Trump said Putin is a genius. Let him find his own off ramp. My suggestion is to withdraw troops from Ukraine and for him to support an election in Donbas.

He can hope for sanctions to ease and that he won't be forced to stand trial.
Is anyone talking to him about that deal (besides, of course, Elon Musk)? Why would we not want to help him find the "off ramp" on the road to armageddon?
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Only one person wanted a war. He could have avoided it by not ordering the invasion.

The rioters of 2020 were terrorists. Were they BLM? Didn't look like it to me. They were anarchists or simply white kids on skate boards. People marching to protest police misconduct were not the ones breaking windows or looting.
Sometimes I feel like the only one who wants it to end.
 
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