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Trump signs new deal with Saudis and Oman

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
It’s impossible to imagine a thread with more specificity. See post no. 1 and my posts that followed it. They focus on the Trump conflict of interest deals in elaborate detail, complete with a link.

What’s missing is anybody wishing to confront them. Instead, we have responses evading the issues in various ways, including those pretending Trump, a former president and perhaps future president, is just like any other businessman, so the conflicts of interest can be ignored.

The problem is not my posts. The problem is those that evade the conflict issues.
I'll wait.. what conflict of interest exists presently for the ex-president of the United States?. The Trump organization has existing business dealings in the middle east, had existing business dealings in the middle east, and according to your referenced article and post one entered into new business dealings in the Middle East.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
I'll wait.. what conflict of interest exists presently for the ex-president of the United States?. The Trump organization has existing business dealings in the middle east, had existing business dealings in the middle east, and according to your referenced article and post one entered into new business dealings in the Middle East.
All of which present obvious conflicts of interest when a president/possible future president engages in them.

Seriously, you cannot grasp how a president or presidential candidate with business interests abroad may act to enhance his business interests even if they conflict with the national interests? You cannot grasp how other nations may consider a president/presidential candidate beholden to them when they are business partners?
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
All of which present obvious conflicts of interest when a president/possible future president engages in them.

Seriously, you cannot grasp how a president or presidential candidate with business interests abroad may act to enhance his business interests even if they conflict with the national interests? You cannot grasp how other nations may consider a president/presidential candidate beholden to them when they are business partners?
No. I can. I simply await your illustration of what conflict exists. I mentioned in prior postings.. no apparent illegality or restriction on business persons that are not office holders....
 

Number_58

I'm one of the deplorables lefty warns you about.
You don’t pay attention very well. I don’t believe you when you say you believe it’s not a conflict of interest when a president/possible future president does business deals with other nations. The manner in which such business interests conflict with our national interests is obvious. You’re just being dishonest to evade the topic. Either that or your sense of ethics really is so abysmal that you truly can’t perceive the conflict.

Either way, there’s not much left to discuss with you on the topic. You’re fine with Trump’s conflicts, which is deplorable.
To be honest (see what I did there ;-)), I don't care what you believe or don't believe. I explained to you I don't see a conflict. And, I don't know how many times I have to explain to you that I couldn't care less that you find me deplorable...doesn't effect my self worth in the least. I've been called worse by much better than you...and that didn't have an effect me either.

Guess I'm deplorable and hopeless...and damn happy to contribute.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
No. I can. I simply await your illustration of what conflict exists. I mentioned in prior postings.. no apparent illegality or restriction on business persons that are not office holders....
Perhaps the confusion here is you think this is a thread examining whether Trump’s conflicts of interest are a crime? Not so. Or perhaps the confusion here is you think this is a thread examining conflicts of interest as to businessmen who have not been president and are not running for president? Again, not so.

To repeat, one thread question is whether you’re concerned that a president or presidential candidate with business interests abroad may act to enhance his business interests even if they conflict with the national interests. Or are you concerned with whether other nations may consider a president/presidential candidate beholden to them when they are business partners.

Any opinions on those thread questions?
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
To be honest (see what I did there ;-)), I don't care what you believe or don't believe. I explained to you I don't see a conflict. And, I don't know how many times I have to explain to you that I couldn't care less that you find me deplorable...doesn't effect my self worth in the least. I've been called worse by much better than you...and that didn't have an effect me either.

Guess I'm deplorable and hopeless...and damn happy to contribute.
Indeed. You insist that you see no conflicts of interest when a president/presidential candidate becomes business partners with other nations. Such is your sense of ethics. Yes, that is deplorable and hopeless. As is your pride in being so.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Perhaps the confusion here is you think this is a thread examining whether Trump’s conflicts of interest are a crime? Not so. Or perhaps the confusion here is you think this is a thread examining conflicts of interest as to businessmen who have not been president and are not running for president? Again, not so.

To repeat, one thread question is whether you’re concerned that a president or presidential candidate with business interests abroad may act to enhance his business interests even if they conflict with the national interests. Or are you concerned with whether other nations may consider a president/presidential candidate beholden to them when they are business partners.

Any opinions on those thread questions?
You didn't think that a problem when the Clinton's and Hanio Kerry ran or were President

Biden's 'secret Saudi deal' bungle shows he's terrible at foreign policy (nypost.com)
 
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Number_58

I'm one of the deplorables lefty warns you about.
Indeed. You insist that you see no conflicts of interest when a president/presidential candidate becomes business partners with other nations. Such is your sense of ethics. Yes, that is deplorable and hopeless. As is your pride in being so.
You could petition your Representative in the House to start another impeachment process on Trump again. It could lead to a conviction this time...
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
You could petition your Representative in the House to start another impeachment process on Trump again. It could lead to a conviction this time...
Sheesh, most GOP senators wouldn’t vote to remove Trump even after he sent his terrorists on a murderous rampage to seize the Capitol and obstruct the peaceful transition of power. They show complete fealty to your cult leader.
 

Number_58

I'm one of the deplorables lefty warns you about.
Sheesh, most GOP senators wouldn’t vote to remove Trump even after he sent his terrorists on a murderous rampage to seize the Capitol and obstruct the peaceful transition of power. They show complete fealty to your cult leader.
"muderous"? How many people were murdered that day? How many people were actually killed that day? Or did the fascists in the Democrat party rewrite that history already? So, a drag queen teacher can indoctrinate the Biden youth?
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
"muderous"? How many people were murdered that day? How many people were actually killed that day? Or did the fascists in the Democrat party rewrite that history already? So, a drag queen teacher can indoctrinate the Biden youth?

appears bug ran away
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Well, I for one actually do agree with you that this kind of politically connected persons doing business with foreign governments that are notorious for corruption should be investigated as obvious conflicts of interest. You know, like the Bidens did in China and Ukraine? Can we agree that their international "business" dealings are every bit as unseemly as these?
 

Number_58

I'm one of the deplorables lefty warns you about.
Well, I for one actually do agree with you that this kind of politically connected persons doing business with foreign governments that are notorious for corruption should be investigated as obvious conflicts of interest. You know, like the Bidens did in China and Ukraine? Can we agree that their international "business" dealings are every bit as unseemly as these?
Here comes Mr Whataboutisms to scold you for a whataboutism. Bugs is absolutely nothing if not predictable.
 
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