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American ballotry...

God of War

Governor
... in Soviet terms.
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America today has a mirror problem. A sense of suspense around the key races is the norm—pundits generate attention-grabbing headlines, polls are interpreted every which way, and bets are placed on PredictIt.org. At the same time, the process itself is becoming increasingly opaque. With voting and balloting taking weeks if not months, many states have retired the idea of Election Day. The ballots can be returned in batches and stored in unsecured boxes. Cameras watching the uncounted ballots go dark in the middle of the night. Citizens are admonished to trust the experts, and reassured computers will not mess with the vote.


This is not the idea of free and fair Western elections that was sold to us, the discontented in the USSR. A real election involves people going to the polls and casting their vote in privacy, but in a way that is observable, so that anyone can see that it is free of coercion. Paper ballots are tallied immediately after the precincts close. And, of course, a valid form of identification is required to vote. One day, one ballot, one voter, one ID.

 
... in Soviet terms.
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America today has a mirror problem. A sense of suspense around the key races is the norm—pundits generate attention-grabbing headlines, polls are interpreted every which way, and bets are placed on PredictIt.org. At the same time, the process itself is becoming increasingly opaque. With voting and balloting taking weeks if not months, many states have retired the idea of Election Day. The ballots can be returned in batches and stored in unsecured boxes. Cameras watching the uncounted ballots go dark in the middle of the night. Citizens are admonished to trust the experts, and reassured computers will not mess with the vote.


This is not the idea of free and fair Western elections that was sold to us, the discontented in the USSR. A real election involves people going to the polls and casting their vote in privacy, but in a way that is observable, so that anyone can see that it is free of coercion. Paper ballots are tallied immediately after the precincts close. And, of course, a valid form of identification is required to vote. One day, one ballot, one voter, one ID.

We should go to 100% online ballots.
The block chain is a gazillion times more secure than paper ballots.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
... in Soviet terms.
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America today has a mirror problem. A sense of suspense around the key races is the norm—pundits generate attention-grabbing headlines, polls are interpreted every which way, and bets are placed on PredictIt.org. At the same time, the process itself is becoming increasingly opaque. With voting and balloting taking weeks if not months, many states have retired the idea of Election Day. The ballots can be returned in batches and stored in unsecured boxes. Cameras watching the uncounted ballots go dark in the middle of the night. Citizens are admonished to trust the experts, and reassured computers will not mess with the vote.


This is not the idea of free and fair Western elections that was sold to us, the discontented in the USSR. A real election involves people going to the polls and casting their vote in privacy, but in a way that is observable, so that anyone can see that it is free of coercion. Paper ballots are tallied immediately after the precincts close. And, of course, a valid form of identification is required to vote. One day, one ballot, one voter, one ID.

If you'd stick with facts and quit making shit up maybe we could find common ground.

We now have about 160 million people voting. More than ever before. Yes, ballots are returned in batches...just as they always were. They are not stored in unsecured boxes. No cameras were turned off in the middle of the night and computers are tested and audited to insure they do not "mess with the vote".

Krebbs, Trump's own director of cyber security got fired for telling us that there was no election systems hacked. If computers messed with the ballots, how did hand recounts match the count? How did republicans win anything?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Nope. One person, one voter ID, one paper ballot and one day. Paper ballots collected and taken downtown for machine counting on an hourly basis. France can do it so can you.
The constitution says the states make their own election rules. Not you.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
And that is the way it should be. States and not the federal government and certainly not you and the election fraudsters you run cover for.
and not you and the liars who invent bizarre conspiracies like the Chinese thermostats hacking Dominion systems to flip votes.

Sadly, the 1/3rd of out voters who continue to believe Trump, D'Souza, Lott, Lindell, Powell and Giuliani do not apply a tiny bit of skepticism to what they hear.

You continue to pretend there is actual credible evidence that elections are being stolen. There isn't.
 

God of War

Governor
There are other options and you're not the decider of that.
Did I say i was the decider? No, that's how Democrats think and act.

I'm campaigning and advocating for what I believe and making the argument for it. That's called democracy. But I see how it gets under yours and others skin. Why?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
In a rolling conversation. Get over yourself. That too is a command. ha ha
Seems your opinions are the only ones allowed here, eh? If someone expresses an opinion that you don't get to make the rules, they are somehow violating your right to express a command for someone else to give up absentee or early voting.
 
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