Sedition: Guilty.

[Jack4freedom]

No one testified to anything that supports a "conspircay."

A defense lawyer said that none of the 50 witnesses in the Oath Keepers trial testified that they heard any of the defendants discuss or plan to storm the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

However, in the final rebuttal, U.S. Attorney Jeffrey Nestler said that according to the jury instructions (pdf), the government did not have to prove that the defendants had a detailed plan to breach the Capitol and meet in person to discuss their alleged scheme. An implicit agreement and mutual understanding were enough to prove the defendants’ conspiracy, he said.

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So we're throwing them in jail for a thought crime? Obviously, if they illegally entered the Capitol the they are guilty of a crime. But "sedition?" Can you say polical prisoner?

Hitler was a political prisoner in the late 1920’s. He did a couple years, wrote Mein Kamf, got out with a full head of steam and got the government he envisioned. If Trump/Fuentes get elected in 2024, the dream is still alive….Think about it Raoul…It ain’t over yet!

 

[Jack4freedom]

Right, they just convicted two unarmed men of trying to overthrow the Gov't. Makes perfect sense.

Your TV said they were bad....sooo bad they must be.... no questions....

Your TV says the are persecuted Patriots….My common sense tells me that these guys and the rest of the scum that was on parade on January 6th were either morons, ass holes and or both. You need to get a new TV Or grow a brain…

 

[middleview]

Yeah, it's obvious the people with guns were in "mortal danger" from an unarmed mob...to a hack!

Unarmed? Only 140 cops needing medical care.

 

[middleview]

Yeah, it's obvious the people with guns were in "mortal danger" from an unarmed mob...to a hack!

So you think the cops knew there were no guns? Over 100 cops needed medical care...without guns a couple thousand people with baseball bats, metal poles, hockey sticks...really were dangerous.

 

[bdtex]

So you think the cops knew there were no guns? Over 100 cops needed medical care...wothout guns a couple thousand people with baseball bats, metal poles, hockey sticks...really were dangerous.

Chemical weapons, flexcuffs too. Some had radios. Nothing coordinated about that. Just a few thousand lone wolves who all had the same idea. Nothing seditious about that. The deniers should be ashamed of themselves. Patriots my ass.

 

[middleview]

OK, if you think that
I don't think that would have happened
We'll never know who is correct

We know. You just won't admit it.

 

[middleview]

If I'd been a member of Congress damn right I would have stood my ground, may have got my ass beat but doubtful from that crowd of cowardly clowns...............see, I would have been a CC and if need be would have shot first [Unwelcome language removed] trying to harm me and the rest would have ran like the cowards they were//////////

Sure you would. One cop, who stood his ground, was dragged out on the steps and stomped on.

One cop stood his ground and ended up shooting Babbitt. Just as you would have.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Chemical weapons, flexcuffs too. Some had radios. Nothing coordinated about that. Just a few thousand lone wolves who all had the same idea. Nothing seditious about that. The deniers should be ashamed of themselves. Patriots my ass.

"Chemical weapons?" LOL! It was bear spray, not mustard gas.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Unarmed? Only 140 cops needing medical care.

How many of them were injured tripping over each other?

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

"Chemical weapons?" LOL! It was bear spray, not mustard gas.

It killed one cop and this miscreant laughs about it.

Deplorable!

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Okay. Clicked on it anyway and read what I think you and the unnamed defense attorney are hanging your hats on. If you 2 are right and U.S. Attorney Jeffrey Nestler and the trial judge are wrong, then the defendants' appeal should be a slam dunk. Right?

You and the unnamed defense attorney are saying juries shouldn't be able to consider circumstantial evidence right? Only smoking gun evidence should be considered?

When you are throwing the book at someone? You betcha!

 

[Raoul_Luke]

The only mystery is why Trump’s terrorists weren’t mowed down on the steps of the Capitol. You know that would have happened if the marauders were black or Muslim.

Yes, you'd be calling them heroes.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

It killed one cop and this miscreant laughs about it.

Deplorable!

That is disinformation.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

It killed one cop and this miscreant laughs about it.

Deplorable!

Washington (CNN)The Justice Department on Tuesday abandoned the idea that pro-Trump rioters had used bear spray against US Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick during the January 6 riot, a major change after implying for weeks that bear spray, not pepper spray, had been deployed.

US Capitol rioters charged in Sicknick case were armed with bear spray but only used pepper spray, prosecutors say

The Justice Department on Tuesday abandoned the idea that pro-Trump rioters had used bear spray against US Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick during the January 6 riot, a major change after implying for weeks that bear spray, not pepper spray, had been deployed.

www.cnn.com

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Yes, you'd be calling them heroes.

Dunno who the “them” are in that ambiguous sentence, nor is this about me. In any event, you don’t refute what I said.

 

[middleview]

Other than Babbit, who was Murdered on 1/6__________
Congress were not close to that corridor, why LIE?

Bullshit. This is one side of the House Chamber.



Babbitt was attempting to get into the corridor on the other side of the chamber.
She was about 40 feet away from the entrance.

Here is a picture of that corridor. The doors at the end are where she was killed. The open door on the right is the entrance to the House chamber.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Washington (CNN)The Justice Department on Tuesday abandoned the idea that pro-Trump rioters had used bear spray against US Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick during the January 6 riot, a major change after implying for weeks that bear spray, not pepper spray, had been deployed.

US Capitol rioters charged in Sicknick case were armed with bear spray but only used pepper spray, prosecutors say

The Justice Department on Tuesday abandoned the idea that pro-Trump rioters had used bear spray against US Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick during the January 6 riot, a major change after implying for weeks that bear spray, not pepper spray, had been deployed.

www.cnn.com

Now this one is quibbling about the chemical composition of the spray used by his fellow swine.

What, no “LOL” this time?

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Now this one is quibbling about the chemical composition of the spray used by his fellow swine.

What, no “LOL” this time?

Nope, you are the joke on this one.

 

[middleview]

Washington (CNN)The Justice Department on Tuesday abandoned the idea that pro-Trump rioters had used bear spray against US Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick during the January 6 riot, a major change after implying for weeks that bear spray, not pepper spray, had been deployed.

US Capitol rioters charged in Sicknick case were armed with bear spray but only used pepper spray, prosecutors say

The Justice Department on Tuesday abandoned the idea that pro-Trump rioters had used bear spray against US Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick during the January 6 riot, a major change after implying for weeks that bear spray, not pepper spray, had been deployed.

www.cnn.com

So in the case of Sicknick they decided that they were unsure if the rioters had bear spray.



Does that look like this? It is Udap Bear spray.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Bullshit. This is one side of the House Chamber.

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Babbitt was attempting to get into the corridor on the other side of the chamber.
She was about 40 feet away from the entrance.

Here is a picture of that corridor. The doors at the end are where she was killed. The open door on the right is the entrance to the House chamber.
View attachment 73189

So who are those guys with the guns? They certainly aren't the protesters. Was it criminally stupid for unarmed protesters to attack these well armed people? Yes, Is that crime punishable by death? Only in your authoritarian dreams...