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Sedition: Guilty.

middleview

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When you are throwing the book at someone? You betcha!
The communications between Rhodes and others were pretty specific. He wanted to stop the constitutional process of declaring Biden the winner. He and his OathKeepers started the riot by attacking the outer barricade around the capitol. They were there before Trump even started talking. They waited for the mob to arrive.

They were not there to express an opinion related to the election. They were there to overturn it.
 

middleview

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So who are those guys with the guns? They certainly aren't the protesters. Was it criminally stupid for unarmed protesters to attack these well armed people? Yes, Is that crime punishable by death? Only in your authoritarian dreams...
You admit the attack. You admit that she was criminally stupid. What you refuse to admit is that a person without a gun can still commit murder.

I showed you the pictures of how close Babbitt and the mob were to the entrance to the House Chamber.
 

middleview

President
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Yes, indeed. Any comment by you on @Bugsy McGurk (falsely) claiming they used bear spray to "murder" Sicknick?
Sicknick returned to his desk and had a seizure. He was rushed to the hospital and died the next day. The medical examiner could not identify the reason for the blood clot that killed him, but the coincidence of having been attacked by the rioters and dying hours later has to make even you wonder.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Sicknick returned to his desk and had a seizure. He was rushed to the hospital and died the next day. The medical examiner could not identify the reason for the blood clot that killed him, but the coincidence of having been attacked by the rioters and dying hours later has to make even you wonder.
I think the winger is quibbling about the chemical composition of the spray his cronies used on the cops. The death of the cop drew an “LOL” from the deplorable in question.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Sicknick returned to his desk and had a seizure. He was rushed to the hospital and died the next day. The medical examiner could not identify the reason for the blood clot that killed him, but the coincidence of having been attacked by the rioters and dying hours later has to make even you wonder.
Says the guy who dismisses every idea he doesn't agree with that isn't supported by iron clad irrefutable direct evidence. Sheesh.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
You admit the attack. You admit that she was criminally stupid. What you refuse to admit is that a person without a gun can still commit murder.

I showed you the pictures of how close Babbitt and the mob were to the entrance to the House Chamber.
Which was protected by a gaggle of armed men. Babbitt was like 5 foot nothing and weighed about 100 pounds. Which one of those armed guards was she going to murder with her bare hands?
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Which was protected by a gaggle of armed men. Babbitt was like 5 foot nothing and weighed about 100 pounds. Which one of those armed guards was she going to murder with her bare hands?
You nuts have been told this a thousand times - the cops didn’t know whether or not she and/or her fellow terrorists were armed.

Try to absorb that.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
You nuts have been told this a thousand times - the cops didn’t know whether or not she and/or her fellow terrorists were armed.

Try to absorb that.
So it's okay to kill a suspect that you have no idea whether or not they are armed? Quick, get black lives matter on the phone and let them know they can find some other cause to riot over...
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
So it's okay to kill a suspect that you have no idea whether or not they are armed? Quick, get black lives matter on the phone and let them know they can find some other cause to riot over...
When that person smashes her way into the hall outside the House chamber, backed by hundreds of other attackers, you betcha. That person is getting shot.

Of course, Trump’s terrorists should have been shot on the Capitol steps. But that’s another story.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Here's two confessing. So..we can't pretend our way out of admitted guilt...or can we?

Below are average sentences by state. Due to the low number of sentences in some jurisdictions, any broad takeaways from the data by jurisdiction should be limited. However, taken together we can see that many federal courts issue fairly lengthy sentences for assault. The sentence lengths are in months.

JurisdictionSentence (In Months)
Alabama15.6
Alaska29.6
Arizona6.0
Arkansas24.2
California24.7
Colorado23.1
Connecticut24.4
Washington, D.C.13.3
Delaware32.2
Florida31.5
Georgia26.4
Guam1.6
Hawaii28.6
Idaho23.4
Illinois23.6
Indiana20.9
Iowa17.4
Kansas11.1
Kentucky14.6
Louisiana15.3
Maine9.2
Maryland28.8
Massachusetts20.1
Michigan25.3
Minnesota32.3
Mississippi17.7
Missouri15.4
Montana10.1
Northern Mariana Islands0.2
Nebraska13.6
Nevada23.4
New Hampshire11.8
New Jersey0
New Mexico20.7
New York19.0
North Carolina24.3
North Dakota12.7
Ohio19.5
Oklahoma16.5
Oregon25.6
Pennsylvania19.5
Puerto Rico11.8
Rhode Island26.4
South Carolina16.7
South Dakota20.1
Tennessee17.2
Texas25.0
U.S. Virgin Islands5.8
Utah19.3
Vermont17.0
Virginia21.9
Washington11.9
West Virginia17.3
Wisconsin21.1
Wyoming21.9

I don't see any 120s to 240s in there, do you?
 

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middleview

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Which was protected by a gaggle of armed men. Babbitt was like 5 foot nothing and weighed about 100 pounds. Which one of those armed guards was she going to murder with her bare hands?
You do know she had hundreds of rioters with her.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
So it's okay to kill a suspect that you have no idea whether or not they are armed? Quick, get black lives matter on the phone and let them know they can find some other cause to riot over...
So the only reason to shoot her would be if you knew that she and the hundreds of rioters behind her had guns?

Baseball bats don't count. Hockey sticks and metal poles never hurt anyone.

You can continue to pretend that babbitt was alone and no threat to anyone. She was climbing through the broken window to say hi to Pelosi.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Below are average sentences by state. Due to the low number of sentences in some jurisdictions, any broad takeaways from the data by jurisdiction should be limited. However, taken together we can see that many federal courts issue fairly lengthy sentences for assault. The sentence lengths are in months.

JurisdictionSentence (In Months)
Alabama15.6
Alaska29.6
Arizona6.0
Arkansas24.2
California24.7
Colorado23.1
Connecticut24.4
Washington, D.C.13.3
Delaware32.2
Florida31.5
Georgia26.4
Guam1.6
Hawaii28.6
Idaho23.4
Illinois23.6
Indiana20.9
Iowa17.4
Kansas11.1
Kentucky14.6
Louisiana15.3
Maine9.2
Maryland28.8
Massachusetts20.1
Michigan25.3
Minnesota32.3
Mississippi17.7
Missouri15.4
Montana10.1
Northern Mariana Islands0.2
Nebraska13.6
Nevada23.4
New Hampshire11.8
New Jersey0
New Mexico20.7
New York19.0
North Carolina24.3
North Dakota12.7
Ohio19.5
Oklahoma16.5
Oregon25.6
Pennsylvania19.5
Puerto Rico11.8
Rhode Island26.4
South Carolina16.7
South Dakota20.1
Tennessee17.2
Texas25.0
U.S. Virgin Islands5.8
Utah19.3
Vermont17.0
Virginia21.9
Washington11.9
West Virginia17.3
Wisconsin21.1
Wyoming21.9

I don't see any 120s to 240s in there, do you?
How about for attempted murder? Assaulting a police officer with a deadly weapon? There were numerous other charges.
 
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Dawg

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So it's okay to kill a suspect that you have no idea whether or not they are armed? Quick, get black lives matter on the phone and let them know they can find some other cause to riot over...
White Lives Don't Matter
 
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