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[middleview]

I'll repeat the question I asked, that you decide to dodge...as usual...you're saying that not matching signatures "in no way increase the risk of fraud"?

I answered your question. Now answer mine.

1. An incoming absentee ballot is checked for the QRcode, address and name on the envelope. If there is no signature, it is rejected, although based on county rules they may contact the voter to cure the envelope.

2. So, let's assume that means that tens of thousands of absentee ballots were cast by someone other than the voter it was addressed to. How did that happen?

I have posted a number of times what the process is.
In person ballots are counted first. The voter database is updated to show the voter has cast a vote. By the time that has completed, the cutoff of accepting additional ballots is set. Ballots that have been received by the post office will be accepted but must have already been mailed. The postmark would prove when the post office got the ballots.

If someone wanted to submit fraudulent absentee ballots, how would they do it? Where did they get the ballots? How did they know which voters had not or would not vote? The margin for error is huge and yet duplicate ballots didn't happen.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Unreal. The narratives you think proves election fraud have been crushed by the facts. That is not "gas lighting".

D'Souza? His 2000 Mules has been proven to be complete bullshit. I posted a scientific paper on cellphone GPS accuracy from 2019 that showed his argument that accuracy was down to inches was simply a lie.
Lott? Wishful thinking. His math depends on the assumption that you can compare the inperson and absentee ballot numbers from a majority republican county to a democrat majority county and state that there must be fraud because Trump lost in the democratic county. Silly on it's face.
Lindell relies on IT technology that doesn't exist.
Gabelman was fired by the republican legislator who hired him.
Cyber Ninjas found nothing.

Judges in 61 lawsuits filed by Trump or his allies were either kicked out for lack of evidence or dropped before being presented in court.

What else do you have? What narrative do you have that is credible and has not been debunked?

It doesn't matter what you say about it, a growing number of Americans do not trust election integrity:



What are you going to do about it?

 

[Raoul_Luke]

I answered your question. Now answer mine.

1. An incoming absentee ballot is checked for the QRcode, address and name on the envelope. If there is no signature, it is rejected, although based on county rules they may contact the voter to cure the envelope.

2. So, let's assume that means that tens of thousands of absentee ballots were cast by someone other than the voter it was addressed to. How did that happen?

I have posted a number of times what the process is.
In person ballots are counted first. The voter database is updated to show the voter has cast a vote. By the time that has completed, the cutoff of accepting additional ballots is set. Ballots that have been received by the post office will be accepted but must have already been mailed. The postmark would prove when the post office got the ballots.

If someone wanted to submit fraudulent absentee ballots, how would they do it? Where did they get the ballots? How did they know which voters had not or would not vote? The margin for error is huge and yet duplicate ballots didn't happen.

1. Checked by whom? How do we know each and every mail-in ballot is properly "checked?"

2. It only needs to be thousands (or even hundreds) in the right places. What would prevent someone from exchanging a "checked" ballot out for a fake one? The QRcode is on the envelope, right? Once the envelope is "verified" if someone substituted a forged ballot for one from an envelope that has been "checked in" you'd have no way of proving it.

 

[middleview]

It doesn't matter what you say about it, a growing number of Americans do not trust election integrity:

View attachment 73223

What are you going to do about it?

1. Mostly republicans who listen to Trump and Trump lovers are those who hear the bullshit from the likes of you.
2. 60% strongly disagree with you. What are you going to do about that? You could try to actually prove fraud.
3. Some of those who don't trust elections are seeing what republican legislatures are doing and think they are tipping the scale.

 

[middleview]

1. Checked by whom? How do we know each and every mail-in ballot is properly "checked?"

2. It only needs to be thousands (or even hundreds) in the right places. What would prevent someone from exchanging a "checked" ballot out for a fake one? The QRcode is on the envelope, right? Once the envelope is "verified" if someone substituted a forged ballot for one from an envelope that has been "checked in" you'd have no way of proving it.

The workers checking the envelopes have no idea who the vote is for. They remove the ballot and put it in a stack of ballots to go to the tabulators. Do you actually think they are coming to work with hundreds of ballots in their underwear and swap them for ones marked for the "wrong" candidate? And then what do they do with the real ballot?

Your premise is kinda funny. I get a picture of a "cutter" with a few hundred ballots in his undies. Meanwhile this is all on video and with constant supervision and poll workers/watchers everywhere.

By the way....ballots in most places have a serial number embedded in the ballot. Who came up with fraudulent ballots, with legitimate serial numbers and on security paper?

 

[Number_58]

I answered your question. Now answer mine.

1. An incoming absentee ballot is checked for the QRcode, address and name on the envelope. If there is no signature, it is rejected, although based on county rules they may contact the voter to cure the envelope.

2. So, let's assume that means that tens of thousands of absentee ballots were cast by someone other than the voter it was addressed to. How did that happen?

I have posted a number of times what the process is.
In person ballots are counted first. The voter database is updated to show the voter has cast a vote. By the time that has completed, the cutoff of accepting additional ballots is set. Ballots that have been received by the post office will be accepted but must have already been mailed. The postmark would prove when the post office got the ballots.

If someone wanted to submit fraudulent absentee ballots, how would they do it? Where did they get the ballots? How did they know which voters had not or would not vote? The margin for error is huge and yet duplicate ballots didn't happen.

There's still a question you failed to answer from several hours ago...

You: Nobody said the vaccine would keep you from getting covid.

Me: You're going to claim the below is not a direct quote from President Biden?

'You're not going to get covid if you have these vaccinations,'"

Still waiting for your response to that one...

 

[Raoul_Luke]

1. Mostly republicans who listen to Trump and Trump lovers are those who hear the bullshit from the likes of you.
2. 60% strongly disagree with you. What are you going to do about that? You could try to actually prove fraud.
3. Some of those who don't trust elections are seeing what republican legislatures are doing and think they are tipping the scale.

1. That's a hell of a lot of MAGA whack jobs.
2. That is a lie - only 43% "strongly" trust elections. Learn how to read a chart.
3. If the left believes election fraud is "impossible" why would any lefty think the Republicans can do anything to "tip the scale?" And if you are referring to efforts to enforce voter ID, most Americans agree with that:

Eight in 10 Americans Favor Early Voting, Photo ID Laws (gallup.com)

 

[Raoul_Luke]

The workers checking the envelopes have no idea who the vote is for. They remove the ballot and put it in a stack of ballots to go to the tabulators. Do you actually think they are coming to work with hundreds of ballots in their underwear and swap them for ones marked for the "wrong" candidate? And then what do they do with the real ballot?

Your premise is kinda funny. I get a picture of a "cutter" with a few hundred ballots in his undies. Meanwhile this is all on video and with constant supervision and poll workers/watchers everywhere.

By the way....ballots in most places have a serial number embedded in the ballot. Who came up with fraudulent ballots, with legitimate serial numbers and on security paper?

Your blind faith in the integrity of government processes is "quaint."

I'd be willing to bet there's long stretches of time when the "supervision" is nil.

Are those serial numbers checked in a recount? "Security paper?" LOL - it's not threaded currency paper. You can get it at any print shop.

 

[bdtex]

I answered your question.

You don't have the burden of proof. Don't let them flip that. The burden of proof is theirs. That is what this thread is for...to give them the opportunity to meet their burden of proof. It should be a real short thread because they can't meet that burden. Instead, they want to go off on a bunch of tangents and tell us about their feelings.

 

[bdtex]

It doesn't matter what you say about it, a growing number of Americans do not trust election integrity:

View attachment 73223

What are you going to do about it?

That's not proof. What is the proof? Where is it? Oh I know...Dinesh D'Souza has it. Lol!

 

[middleview]

There's still a question you failed to answer from several hours ago...

You: Nobody said the vaccine would keep you from getting covid.

Me: You're going to claim the below is not a direct quote from President Biden?

'You're not going to get covid if you have these vaccinations,'"

Still waiting for your response to that one...

I did not hear Biden say that. He was wrong.
PolitiFact | Biden says that vaccinated people can’t spread COVID-19. That’s not what CDC says.

Now, would you care to address the rest of my post related to the topic of the thread?

1. An incoming absentee ballot is checked for the QRcode, address and name on the envelope. If there is no signature, it is rejected, although based on county rules they may contact the voter to cure the envelope.

2. So, let's assume that means that tens of thousands of absentee ballots were cast by someone other than the voter it was addressed to. How did that happen?

I have posted a number of times what the process is.
In person ballots are counted first. The voter database is updated to show the voter has cast a vote. By the time that has completed, the cutoff of accepting additional ballots is set. Ballots that have been received by the post office will be accepted but must have already been mailed. The postmark would prove when the post office got the ballots.

If someone wanted to submit fraudulent absentee ballots, how would they do it? Where did they get the ballots? How did they know which voters had not or would not vote? The margin for error is huge and yet duplicate ballots didn't happen.

 

[middleview]

Your blind faith in the integrity of government processes is "quaint."

I'd be willing to bet there's long stretches of time when the "supervision" is nil.

Are those serial numbers checked in a recount? "Security paper?" LOL - it's not threaded currency paper. You can get it at any print shop.

Your blind indictment of all things government is treatable.

You'd be willing to bet....but unable to prove. The audit performed is well documented. Before you claim to have knowledge of fraud, try looking it up.

Now explain how someone snuck hundreds or thousands of fraudulent ballots in, substituted them for real ballots and then smuggled the hundreds or thousands of real ballots out again.

You do know that they are sitting in a crowded area with other poll workers, observers and poll watchers, right?

 

[Number_58]

I did not hear Biden say that. He was wrong.
PolitiFact | Biden says that vaccinated people can’t spread COVID-19. That’s not what CDC says.

Now, would you care to address the rest of my post related to the topic of the thread?

1. An incoming absentee ballot is checked for the QRcode, address and name on the envelope. If there is no signature, it is rejected, although based on county rules they may contact the voter to cure the envelope.

2. So, let's assume that means that tens of thousands of absentee ballots were cast by someone other than the voter it was addressed to. How did that happen?

If someone wanted to submit fraudulent absentee ballots, how would they do it? Where did they get the ballots? How did they know which voters had not or would not vote?

YOU were wrong. You're the one that claimed nobody said it. The Resident of the United States said it.

I've never said anything about absentee ballots. Absentee ballots aren't the only ballots sent out. My reference is to the the mail in ballots...several thousand were sent out.

 

[bdtex]

There's still a question you failed to answer from several hours ago...

You: Nobody said the vaccine would keep you from getting covid.

Me: You're going to claim the below is not a direct quote from President Biden?

'You're not going to get covid if you have these vaccinations,'"

Still waiting for your response to that one...

That has zero to do with proof of a stolen election.

 

[Number_58]

That has zero to do with proof of a stolen election.

I responded to a a comment that middleview posted first. If you don't want changes taking place regarding the OP, take it up with the first person that does it...not the one who responds to it.

Read what leads up to the comment or shove off...

 

[middleview]

1. That's a hell of a lot of MAGA whack jobs.
2. That is a lie - only 43% "strongly" trust elections. Learn how to read a chart.
3. If the left believes election fraud is "impossible" why would any lefty think the Republicans can do anything to "tip the scale?" And if you are referring to efforts to enforce voter ID, most Americans agree with that:

Eight in 10 Americans Favor Early Voting, Photo ID Laws (gallup.com)

No. I'm referring to efforts to remove the secretary of state from election management and putting in people they appoint. How about efforts to minimize early voting days or telling people they can't vote on Sundays. You can't hand water to people standing in long lines to vote. That is illegal.

Only 21% strongly agree with you, if you want to split hairs.

 

[middleview]

I responded to a a comment that middleview posted first. If you don't want changes taking place regarding the OP, take it up with the first person that does it...not the one who responds to it.

Read what leads up to the comment or shove off...

I was responding to this from Raoul.
Yeah, just a "conspiracy theory" - like the Intelligence Agencies spied on the Trump campaign, like the Covid virus came out of the Wuhan Lab, like the vaccines didn't prevent you from catching, spreading or dying from Covid, like the Hunter laptop was Russian disinformation. By now I would think you guys would know that powerful interests working overtime to keep evidence from the public isn't "proof" that something didn't happen.

 

[Number_58]

I was responding to this from Raoul.
Yeah, just a "conspiracy theory" - like the Intelligence Agencies spied on the Trump campaign, like the Covid virus came out of the Wuhan Lab, like the vaccines didn't prevent you from catching, spreading or dying from Covid, like the Hunter laptop was Russian disinformation. By now I would think you guys would know that powerful interests working overtime to keep evidence from the public isn't "proof" that something didn't happen.

I don't give a squirt of piss who you were responding to or why. You threw out an inaccurate comment in your reply...you said.

Nobody said the vaccine would keep you from getting covid. They said it would lessen symptoms and help avoid hospitalization and death.

 

[middleview]

YOU were wrong. You're the one that claimed nobody said it. The Resident of the United States said it.

I've never said anything about absentee ballots. Absentee ballots aren't the only ballots sent out. My reference is to the the mail in ballots...several thousand were sent out.

Absentee vs mail in ballots is an insignificant difference. Try answering the questions.

1. An incoming absentee ballot is checked for the QRcode, address and name on the envelope. If there is no signature, it is rejected, although based on county rules they may contact the voter to cure the envelope.

2. So, let's assume that means that tens of thousands of absentee ballots were cast by someone other than the voter it was addressed to. How did that happen?

I have posted a number of times what the process is.
In person ballots are counted first. The voter database is updated to show the voter has cast a vote. By the time that has completed, the cutoff of accepting additional ballots is set. Ballots that have been received by the post office will be accepted but must have already been mailed. The postmark would prove when the post office got the ballots.

If someone wanted to submit fraudulent absentee ballots, how would they do it? Where did they get the ballots? How did they know which voters had not or would not vote? The margin for error is huge and yet duplicate ballots didn't happen.

 

[middleview]

I don't give a squirt of piss who you were responding to or why. You threw out an inaccurate comment in your reply...you said.

Nobody said the vaccine would keep you from getting covid. They said it would lessen symptoms and help avoid hospitalization and death.

You were attempting to say I posted off the thread about Covid. I corrected you.

Try posting on the topic.