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Putin is playing US wingers like a fiddle

Dawg

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Not a stretch at all. Indeed, your post is illustrative of the point. Again, Putin hates Biden. Among other things, Biden is a staunch defender of Ukraine. Putin knew that, if he refused to release Whelan, carpers in the US would blame Biden, not Putin, serving Putin’s goal of weakening his adversary - Biden. And that is exactly what is happening.
Where will Bout draw blood first for Putin
1. Ukraine
2. America
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
That's an awfully Big stretch there fella. It seems more readily apparent that Putin used Biden like a mop and clean the floor with him, not negotiating with, but telling Biden whom and how he will exchange prisoners. Never you mind the Marine that's been imprisoned for 4 years pleading. Babylon about some sort of deployment...
Meanwhile back in the real world decent people will continue to note the imprisoned, now 4 years, Marine was not fought for, instead our president was dictated to as to who will be traded in this exchange
Yeah, Biden did not do as good a job to get Whelan free as Trump did....oh, wait. Well, look at what a good job Trump did with getting Otto Warmbier freed by his buddy Kim...he did die a couple of days later, but Trump did get him freed.
 

PhilFish

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Yeah, Biden did not do as good a job to get Whelan free as Trump did....oh, wait. Well, look at what a good job Trump did with getting Otto Warmbier freed by his buddy Kim...he did die a couple of days later, but Trump did get him freed.
Hey..wow...where you pointing? Who says?

Let him rot you say, cause greiner gets more press??
 

Dawg

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Supporting Member
She had a doctor's prescription for the cbd vape for pain.
Eh, a Russian doctor
How'd that work out for he/she
Sure worked out well for Putin and now has his top terrorist back

:)
 
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Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Yeah, Biden did not do as good a job to get Whelan free as Trump did....oh, wait. Well, look at what a good job Trump did with getting Otto Warmbier freed by his buddy Kim...he did die a couple of days later, but Trump did get him freed.
Topic is Putin
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Hey..wow...where you pointing? Who says?

Let him rot you say, cause greiner gets more press??
Really? Did I say "let him rot"?

Putin wasn't trading Whelan. So after months of negotiations, Biden decided there was no progress to be made unless he added something to the deal. I'm not sure who else we have in custody in the US that we'd be willing to trade.

Did you happen to hear what Whelan's brother had to say?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
You can't be that stupid
surely

I'm sure you think people that sell fentanyl have never killed anyone!
So you lied and he is not guilty of killing anyone.

Would you have convicted Oliver North or Reagan of killing people when they sold weapons to Contras? I'm sure the Nicaraguans thought they were terrorists.

One man's patriot is a terrorist to others.
 

Dawg

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Supporting Member
Really? Did I say "let him rot"?

Putin wasn't trading Whelan. So after months of negotiations, Biden decided there was no progress to be made unless he added something to the deal. I'm not sure who else we have in custody in the US that we'd be willing to trade.

Did you happen to hear what Whelan's brother had to say?
Everything is not about you little fella.........actally it was abought Bugs (of course much of the time I think you're both the same peas in a pod)

Maybe Joe can trade Sam for Whelan
 

Dawg

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Supporting Member
So you lied and he is not guilty of killing anyone.

Would you have convicted Oliver North or Reagan of killing people when they sold weapons to Contras? I'm sure the Nicaraguans thought they were terrorists.

One man's patriot is a terrorist to others.
Not surprised you defend Bout

If not for whataboutism you couldn't jack topics

Topic isn't what you spewed
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Everything is not about you little fella.........actally it was abought Bugs (of course much of the time I think you're both the same peas in a pod)

Maybe Joe can trade Sam for Whelan
Phil responded to me.

Sam who?
 

PhilFish

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Really? Did I say "let him rot"?

Putin wasn't trading Whelan. So after months of negotiations, Biden decided there was no progress to be made unless he added something to the deal. I'm not sure who else we have in custody in the US that we'd be willing to trade.

Did you happen to hear what Whelan's brother had to say?
Hey I'm not the guy that started pointing a trump, and warmbier and everything else because I have to distract from the shit trade that just occurred. I've got the courage to point out that this was a shit deal. How about you?
 

middleview

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Hey I'm not the guy that started pointing a trump, and warmbier and everything else because I have to distract from the shit trade that just occurred. I've got the courage to point out that this was a shit deal. How about you?
Could it have been better? Yes. Who controlled that? Putin. He had no reason to want to trade both US citizens and could just have easily canceled the whole deal.

Did Trump do anything to get Whelan freed? Doesn't look like it. I'll go with what Whelan's brother said. You think it was a shit deal. Your opinion, not mine.

Paul Whelan's Brother: Biden Administration made 'right decision' in Griner-prisoner swap

“It’s through hardship that character is revealed, and over the last nine months, we have seen the best of so many,” Colas said in the statement. “At the top of that list are BG and President Biden. Throughout this ordeal, BG has carried herself with courage, grace and grit; and President Biden made us a promise, and then kept his word and did what was necessary to bring her home.”

“In return, our commitment to President Biden and to the families of Americans who are being held hostage and wrongfully detained – especially Elizabeth and David Whelan, on behalf of their brother Paul Whelan, who remains in Russia and whose continued detention weighs heavily on our hearts – is to continue our work in the movement to bring them home,” Colas said.

Brittney Griner’s Agent Said The Campaign To Bring Her Home Will Now Work On The Cases Of Other Americans Who Are Incarcerated Abroad (msn.com)
 
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