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Not surprising at all that this has come to light...

middleview

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That’s an incredibly evil sentiment from Soros. Oil the gears of NATO and the MIC with the blood of “lesser European peoples”. What’s a few slavs anyway…right? This is almost comical “Eloi and morlock” stuff. :-/
Where did Soros say "Lesser European peoples"?
 

middleview

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They certainly are uniformly averse to criticizing Soros. These people are filth.
And yet you are not averse to making shit up. He never said that Eastern European citizens were lesser human beings, as you put in quotes.

The interpretation of what Soros wrote was conveniently taken out of context. Try reading the whole paper Soros wrote.

George Soros | Toward a New World Order: The Future of NATO

He is talking about the Nato of 1993 being willing to fight in the non-Nato countries in the face of Russian violence as we have seen in Georgia, Chechnya and now Ukraine.
 
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middleview

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Apparently the Ukrainians' high tolerance for pain and suffering did not escape Mr. Soros:

“Ukraine just so happens to be a country where Soros has historically wielded the most influence,” wrote Matt Polumbo, author of The Man Behind the Curtain: Inside the Secret Network of George Soros.

“Soros’s influence in Ukraine kicked off in 1989, two years before the collapse of the USSR, when he was creating a series of NGOs,” Polumbo wrote.

“The most notable was in April 1990, when the International Renaissance Foundation (IRF), a part of the Open Society Foundations’ international network, was established in Kyiv.”

Soros has himself bragged about his influence in the Ukraine.

In a May 2014 interview with CNN’s Fareed Zakaria, Soros was asked about his role in the revolutions that led to the Ukraine’s independence from the Soviet Union in 1991.

In response, Soros appeared to suggest that he had played a role in every Ukrainian revolution, from the Orange Revolution of 2004-2005 to the Maidan Revolution in February 2014, which led to the overthrow of democratically-elected President Viktor Yanukovych and the establishment of the current regime now led by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

“Well, I set up a foundation in Ukraine before Ukraine became independent of Russia,” Soros told Zakaria. “And the foundation has been functioning ever since. And it played a — an important part in events now.”


Soros Claims Large Role in Helping Install Current Ukrainian Regime - Headline USA
So what you have here is that Soros set up an NGO in Ukraine to help establish a democracy in Ukraine as he saw the USSR collapsing. You and Headline USA imply some nefarious intent and so substance to back it up.

Where it comes to Soros, all that is needed is to interpret his actions in a way that would lead the reader to think there is proof of something. There isn't.

Headline USA?
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Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
So what you have here is that Soros set up an NGO in Ukraine to help establish a democracy in Ukraine as he saw the USSR collapsing. You and Headline USA imply some nefarious intent and so substance to back it up.

Where it comes to Soros, all that is needed is to interpret his actions in a way that would lead the reader to think there is proof of something. There isn't.

Headline USA?
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A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency, and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for profit or influence (Learn More). Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact-checked on a per-article basis. Please note sources on this list are not considered fake news unless specifically written in the reasoning section for that source. See all Questionable sources.

  • Overall, we rate Headline USA far-right biased and questionable based on the promotion of conspiracy theories, the use of poor sources, a lack of transparency, and a false claim.
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LOL! I quoted them, well, quoting Soros. Are you disputing the veracity of the Soros "position paper?" Because if not, suggesting that the source of an accurate report on it is reason enough to reject it is, well, the move of an authoritarian supporting hack.
 

middleview

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LOL! I quoted them, well, quoting Soros. Are you disputing the veracity of the Soros "position paper?" Because if not, suggesting that the source of an accurate report on it is reason enough to reject it is, well, the move of an authoritarian supporting hack.
I reject their interpretation of what was said.
 

RickWA

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Again, I criticized him as a nationalist and therefore a reactionary. I did not make the kind of superficial, looks-based critique you make of Trump to preserve your fig leaf of nonpartisanship.
LOL. Lies straight away. How awful for you (but it is your template).

My many critiques of Trump typically cite is horrible misogyny, unrivaled nepotism, serial lack of discipline and self-indulgence, and so forth. You lisping leftists, however, focus on his being fat, his hairdoo, and the varied charges of treason and such.

As for Soros…”nationalism”? Seriously? My, how acquitting that is of your DNC lifetime achievement status.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
And yet you are not averse to making shit up. He never said that Eastern European citizens were lesser human beings, as you put in quotes.

The interpretation of what Soros read was conveniently taken out of context. Try reading the whole paper Soros wrote.

George Soros | Toward a New World Order: The Future of NATO

He is talking about the Nato of 1993 being willing to fight in the non-Nato countries in the face of Russian violence as we have seen in Georgia, Chechnya and now Ukraine.
It was certainly implied.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
I reject their interpretation of what was said.
...the combination of manpower from Eastern Europe with the technical capabilities of NATO would greatly enhance the military potential of the Partnership because it would reduce the risk of body bags for NATO countries, which is the main constraint on their willingness to act.

What part of that is "misinterpreted?" His sentiment is not subtle.
 

middleview

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...the combination of manpower from Eastern Europe with the technical capabilities of NATO would greatly enhance the military potential of the Partnership because it would reduce the risk of body bags for NATO countries, which is the main constraint on their willingness to act.

What part of that is "misinterpreted?" His sentiment is not subtle.
Your interpretation of his words isn't either. He is clearly talking about countries contributing force to defend non-nato countries. He is talking about a "Partnership for Peace" in Eastern Europe. Should Polish troops defend Poland or should it be US and UK troops prior to Poland entering Nato?
 

middleview

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Leftist sure love and defend Soros!

The NYPost claims Politifact is funded by Soros. It isn't. It was founded by the Tampa Bay Times and was purchased by the Poynter Institute. It is funded by online advertising, content partnerships and grants. I can't find any grants from Soros or any attempt by Soros to control what they have to say.

They have been characterized as having a Left-Center Bias, but report accurately.
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This page lists donors and grants.

Your source doesn't seem to have a fact to show to back them up. The claim that Soros installed DAs is bullshit. Did an organization he supports also contribute to political campaigns? Yup. Did that amount to buying votes? Nope.

I noticed you've never criticized right wing donors like the Koch brothers or Sheldon Adelson.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Your interpretation of his words isn't either. He is clearly talking about countries contributing force to defend non-nato countries. He is talking about a "Partnership for Peace" in Eastern Europe. Should Polish troops defend Poland or should it be US and UK troops prior to Poland entering Nato?
...it would reduce the risk of body bags for NATO countries, which is the main constraint on their willingness to act.

LOL!
 

middleview

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...it would reduce the risk of body bags for NATO countries, which is the main constraint on their willingness to act.

LOL!
Willingness to act in defense of other countries, as in Ukraine at present?

You are truly scraping the bottom of the barrel for something to whine about.
 

Jack4freedom

Governor
Leftist sure love and defend Soros!

A one sided hit piece on Soros with a super hyperbolic title by one of Rupert Murdoch’s hatchet men printed in the biggest right wing scandal rag NY Post is certainly not surprising or credible Dawg. Nobody ever heard of Soros until he helped fund Media Matters. At that time Fox News biggest headliner Billo Reilly started a media blitz against Soros which has been going on for well over a decade. Media Matters did a great job of exposing O’Reilly, Fox News and the right wing Murdoch media empire as a total bullshit mill.

Ever since then, Murdoch has hired a large team of talented fiction writers who blame, evil rich Jew Soros for all the ills of the world. Murdoch’s Hitleresque world view is well known among educated people throughout the world. Being educated, any time I see a Soros hit piece like MOST DANGEROUS MAN IN THE WORLD, (Come on) I seriously consider the scource and if it comes from a Murdoch entity, I assume it’s probably total bullshit.
 

Dawg

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A one sided hit piece on Soros with a super hyperbolic title by one of Rupert Murdoch’s hatchet men printed in the biggest right wing scandal rag NY Post is certainly not surprising or credible Dawg. Nobody ever heard of Soros until he helped fund Media Matters. At that time Fox News biggest headliner Billo Reilly started a media blitz against Soros which has been going on for well over a decade. Media Matters did a great job of exposing O’Reilly, Fox News and the right wing Murdoch media empire as a total bullshit mill.

Ever since then, Murdoch has hired a large team of talented fiction writers who blame, evil rich Jew Soros for all the ills of the world. Murdoch’s Hitleresque world view is well known among educated people throughout the world. Being educated, any time I see a Soros hit piece like MOST DANGEROUS MAN IN THE WORLD, (Come on) I seriously consider the scource and if it comes from a Murdoch entity, I assume it’s probably total bullshit.
It's good for debate and it's known Soros hates America
Oh well
 

middleview

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It's good for debate and it's known Soros hates America
Oh well
"It's known". At your house maybe. I've seen nothing that would indicate a hatred for the US. Sure as hell looks like he doesn't think much of Putin. Is that what bothers you?
 
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