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Have any wingers apologized to the Pelosis?

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Bandera? The Germans arrested him for persisting in trying to establish Ukrainian independence and held him as a political prisoner.
Among other things yes. You're learning, that's a start. They did a great many other things like locking away in a concentration camp, Hitler was against Ukrainian Independence so this whole bandera is a Nazi thing kind of goes out the window. The Nazis also actively hunted down oun-b members.
 
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EatTheRich

President
Among other things yes. You're learning, that's a start. They did a great many other things like locking away in a concentration camp, Hitler was against Ukrainian Independence so this whole bandera is a Nazi thing kind of goes out the window. The Nazis also actively hunted down oun-b members.
He was held in Sachsenhausen as a political prisoner with special privileged status toward the end of the war … this is after years of service as an Abwehr agent. Perhaps it would be more accurate to say that Bandera agreed with all the Nazis’ principal views and aims and wanted to cooperate closely with them until they made it clear that they disagreed with his efforts to establish an independent Ukraine.
 

PhilFish

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Staff member
He was held in Sachsenhausen as a political prisoner with special privileged status toward the end of the war … this is after years of service as an Abwehr agent. Perhaps it would be more accurate to say that Bandera agreed with all the Nazis’ principal views and aims and wanted to cooperate closely with them until they made it clear that they disagreed with his efforts to establish an independent Ukraine.
Improvement
 

EatTheRich

President
he's digging in wiki n such picking out obscure titles and the like trying to sell himself as pithy and informed...
I’m not pretending to be an expert on wartime Ukraine. But the fact that I even know where to start looking on Wikipedia demonstrates a certain level of background knowledge sufficient to address your oversimplified narrative.
 

TBLee

Governor
Yikes. This thread went out the window quickly. A wacko hit Paul in the head with a hammer. Case closed. The main reason for this thread was based on stirring shit up, nothing more. Bugs win again you dumb asses.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
I’m not pretending to be an expert on wartime Ukraine. But the fact that I even know where to start looking on Wikipedia demonstrates a certain level of background knowledge sufficient to address your oversimplified narrative.
My oversimplified narrative? I'm dealing with somebody that's cherry-picking cool phrases out of Wikipedia. What did you expect from me. You want to know what my expertise is? My grandfather fought with bandera. And trust me it wasn't with the Nazis. I can attest to it by the Mass slaughter of all of my grandfather's siblings by the Nazis hunt for him because of his work with bandera. You ought to explore beyond your pity little snippets from wikipedia.
 

PhilFish

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Staff member
My only prior post in this thread, post #31, was directly on topic and didn’t mention Bandera, the Abwehr, or Ukraine.
No it mentioned the millions dead because of blah blah something blah blah. This from a guy that is a proponent of communism and socialism, whose tenets we're born out on the backs of millions upon millions of tortured and dead. But go ahead Babylon about the Ukrainian leanings towards the nazis. A subject you absolutely know zero about other than the cutesy things you pull out of Wikipedia
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Yikes. This thread went out the window quickly. A wacko hit Paul in the head with a hammer. Case closed. The main reason for this thread was based on stirring shit up, nothing more. Bugs win again you dumb asses.
No. The thread was about the hateful slander posted here or in right wing media.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
My oversimplified narrative? I'm dealing with somebody that's cherry-picking cool phrases out of Wikipedia. What did you expect from me. You want to know what my expertise is? My grandfather fought with bandera. And trust me it wasn't with the Nazis. I can attest to it by the Mass slaughter of all of my grandfather's siblings by the Nazis hunt for him because of his work with bandera. You ought to explore beyond your pity little snippets from wikipedia.
Let me get this straight...he was sent to Sachsenhausen in 1944 because he was Nazi and killed by Soviet agents in West Germany in 1959 because he was a communist?

So is the guy a nazi or a communist?
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Let me get this straight...he was sent to Sachsenhausen in 1944 because he was Nazi and killed by Soviet agents in West Germany in 1959 because he was a communist?

So is the guy a nazi or a communist?
The ukrainians use whomever they could use to achieve their goal. An independent ukraine. Apparently he was a Nazi when it suits people despite his being sent to a concentration camp because of his attempts to liberate Ukraine and declare it independence. Hitler ordered that by the way. Meanwhile 6 Plus million ukrainians died fighting off the Nazis. But every shit bag here with a link to Wikipedia things they know everything about Nazism and Ukraine and bandera. The Galician region the west of ukraine, poland, the former austro-hungarian areas were a shit hole of slaughter from the late 1930s forward. But I know, let's pull up a chair and read the musings of some of the experts here
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
The ukrainians use whomever they could use to achieve their goal. An independent ukraine. Apparently he was a Nazi when it suits people despite his being sent to a concentration camp because of his attempts to liberate Ukraine and declare it independence. Hitler ordered that by the way. Meanwhile 6 Plus million ukrainians died fighting off the Nazis. But every shit bag here with a link to Wikipedia things they know everything about Nazism and Ukraine and bandera. The Galician region the west of ukraine, poland, the former austro-hungarian areas were a shit hole of slaughter from the late 1930s forward. But I know, let's pull up a chair and read the musings of some of the experts here
The enemy of my enemy...
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Both are tic marks on the left side of the ideological spectrum.
Hmmm,

Nazis were pro-military.
Pro-religion unless you were a Jew.
Pro gun ownership, unless you were a Jew.
Pro private property, unless you were a Jew.
Anti-Abortion, unless you were a Jew.
Pro-Business, unless the owner was a Jew or criticized Hitler.
Anti-diversity...no non-Aryans allowed.
Anti-democracy.
Anti-free press.
Pro-family. Have more babies.

Nazis show up for right wing rallies, like the Unite The Right rally. They do not show up for left wing rallies.

So exactly what were the Nazis policies related to liberal causes?
 
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