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PhilFish

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Here let me help you, I will say this for the One billionth time, it was embarassing riot for the country, anyone who fought with the police should be in jail. It however WAS NOT, I repeat WAS NOT an insurrection.

You are welcome.
cool. yah, cause they sucked at it.

meanwhile, it was not, i repeat, it was not a gentle tour and crocheting circle.


lock them podunks up....
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Please find my post where I stated 1/6ers were in the right.

I'll wait thanks
Really? You haven't been whining about prosecutions of the rioters? You have not denied that it was hoped that the riot would allow Trump time to get alternate electors to implement Eastman's plan?

This was you attempting to minimize the rioter's actions.
1/6 was a protest that got out of hand, it was not insurrection you and that Fat Dwarf and the rest of those POS, keep exaggerating it beyond measure for political gain.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Here let me help you, I will say this for the One billionth time, it was embarassing riot for the country, anyone who fought with the police should be in jail. It however WAS NOT, I repeat WAS NOT an insurrection.

You are welcome.
It was exactly what Trump wanted...that is why he watched on Fox as the rioters trashed the capitol and tried to take congressmen into custody...or even hang Mike Pence.
Why didn't he send help?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Here let me help you, I will say this for the One billionth time, it was embarassing riot for the country, anyone who fought with the police should be in jail. It however WAS NOT, I repeat WAS NOT an insurrection.

You are welcome.
You want to limit prosecution to those who attacked the police, even though the mob that entered the capitol disrupted the electoral process and could have helped Trump implement the Eastman memo by giving him time to get republican legislatures to appoint electors.

The mob caused congress to evacuate. Did that disrupt an official proceeding?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
cool. yah, cause they sucked at it.

meanwhile, it was not, i repeat, it was not a gentle tour and crocheting circle.


lock them podunks up....
Note that he only wants to prosecute people who fought with the police. Not those who broke windows and doors. Not those patrolling the hallways with flex cuffs. Not those banging on doors, scaring the shit out of congressmen and staff. Not those chanting hang mike pence.

The fact is that the Capitol had to be evacuated because of the couple thousand people who breached the building...not solely because of the ones Tucker called "hooligans".
 

PhilFish

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Note that he only wants to prosecute people who fought with the police. Not those who broke windows and doors. Not those patrolling the hallways with flex cuffs. Not those banging on doors, scaring the shit out of congressmen and staff. Not those chanting hang mike pence.

The fact is that the Capitol had to be evacuated because of the couple thousand people who breached the building...not solely because of the ones Tucker called "hooligans".
yup
 
This from a guy defending the president who had his lawyers file over 60 lawsuits to overturn the election of 2020 and then attempted to stay in power using a mob of thousands to stop the count of electors.

Tell us again how the laptop story would have kept Trump in power....
So tell us professor what do you think is worse for the country, filing a lawsuit in court (in the history of the country nobody had ever done that after an election :rolleyes:) to have something addressed that you feel is wrong ......OR


Make up a whole story about the Russians stealing an election

Falsely claim the Russians hacked the DNC to give the story more juice

Lie to FISA courts to spy on the rival parties campaign

Destroy the life of the in coming national security advisor by having the FBI re-write his interview report so they could charge him with lying to the FBI

Have the MSM repeatedly claim a duly elected POTUS was the result of Putin.

In the next election cycle, have the FBI kill any investigation into information that may damage Bidens campaign, lean on Social media to do the same, ban the oldest news paper in the country because it ran a story the FBI did not care for.........have 50 losers lie to the country about the laptop having all the "earmarks" of Russian Disinformation when every intelligence agency we have knew that was NOT TRUE!!!

Tell me which one do you think did more damage.

I mean, its not like you come in here and lie and defend all that every single
f-cking day.
 

write on

Senator
Add to that the tendency of business leaders to outsource their own production and offshore the support of those products. At some point they will no longer have the ability to produce a damned thing.

As an employee of a really good computer company in the early 80s, I saw them go from US manufactured circuit boards, disk drives and even cables to those made a few bucks cheaper from China and India. Every one I've ever spoken to on the subject has had the "priviledge" of being on the phone with Bill from Mumbai or some other shithole and trying to decipher their instructions on how to assemble and use their crap.

You'd think they'd have learned the lesson in 2020 about supply chain issues.
Greed is the problem
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
So tell us professor what do you think is worse for the country, filing a lawsuit in court (in the history of the country nobody had ever done that after an election :rolleyes:) to have something addressed that you feel is wrong ......OR


Make up a whole story about the Russians stealing an election

Falsely claim the Russians hacked the DNC to give the story more juice

Lie to FISA courts to spy on the rival parties campaign

Destroy the life of the in coming national security advisor by having the FBI re-write his interview report so they could charge him with lying to the FBI

Have the MSM repeatedly claim a duly elected POTUS was the result of Putin.

In the next election cycle, have the FBI kill any investigation into information that may damage Bidens campaign, lean on Social media to do the same, ban the oldest news paper in the country because it ran a story the FBI did not care for.........have 50 losers lie to the country about the laptop having all the "earmarks" of Russian Disinformation when every intelligence agency we have knew that was NOT TRUE!!!

Tell me which one do you think did more damage.

I mean, its not like you come in here and lie and defend all that every single
f-cking day.
Pointing out the facts and asking for evidence is offensive to you?
Trump's lawyers filed 60 lawsuits and either dropped them, got tossed for lack of evidence or standing....like the AG of Texas wanting to control elections in other states.

Who said the Russians stole the election? Who said Trump was elected because of Putin? You're so desperate you had to list that twice.

Every credible source I have found says it was the Russians who hacked the DNC...including Donald Trump.

Who did Durham indict for lying to the FISA court? Oh yeah, the lawyer who removed one line from an email that said Carter Page had cooperated in an investigation in 2014....because he thought it was irrelevant to 2016.

Once again...what did Taibbi say about the FBI and Twitter?

22. Although several sources recalled hearing about a “general” warning from federal law enforcement that summer about possible foreign hacks, there’s no evidence - that I've seen - of any government involvement in the laptop story. In fact, that might have been the problem...
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Greed is the problem
I'm not sure of that. The reason I say that is because so many of the people I've met who made those decisions did not personally profit. It seemed it was more a result of a mentality that says "everyone else is manufacturing in China...why not us" or of managers who I've worked for who came from India wanting to hire more of their countrymen. One guy I worked for offshored his entire department and then fought like hell to stay in the US....instead of moving to Mumbai to be with his team. Instead, he'd fly to India once a month and stay for three or four days. I switched departments before he offshored my job. At one point he sent two guys to India to train their own replacements.

Saved a lot of money, but turned the product into shit.
 

PhilFish

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I'm not sure of that. The reason I say that is because so many of the people I've met who made those decisions did not personally profit. It seemed it was more a result of a mentality that says "everyone else is manufacturing in China...why not us" or of managers who I've worked for who came from India wanting to hire more of their countrymen. One guy I worked for offshored his entire department and then fought like hell to stay in the US....instead of moving to Mumbai to be with his team. Instead, he'd fly to India once a month and stay for three or four days. I switched departments before he offshored my job. At one point he sent two guys to India to train their own replacements.

Saved a lot of money, but turned the product into shit.
The problem now is, what once was shit and an inferior service or product has now been turned into a manufacturing powerhouse, and at least par if not Superior services. Some instances such as chip processors, nearly a monopoly

A gigantic mistake. one that we're only just now starting to comprehend
 

middleview

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The problem now is, what once was shit and an inferior service or product has now been turned into a manufacturing powerhouse, and at least par if not Superior services. Some instances such as chip processors, nearly a monopoly

A gigantic mistake. one that we're only just now starting to comprehend
While some products have matured and are acceptable, services are not. I have dealt with a lot of software produced in India or China. Languages continue to be an impediment to creative applications. Sometimes it is just minor stuff, like the use of plural vs singular...others are pretty bad, such as horrible instructions on assembling things...or even conflicting instructions while attempting to operate stuff.
 

PhilFish

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While some products have matured and are acceptable, services are not. I have dealt with a lot of software produced in India or China. Languages continue to be an impediment to creative applications. Sometimes it is just minor stuff, like the use of plural vs singular...others are pretty bad, such as horrible instructions on assembling things...or even conflicting instructions while attempting to operate stuff.
Oh trust me I know. I do a lot of business with a very large Indian technology concern.
 

middleview

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Oh trust me I know. I do a lot of business with a very large Indian technology concern.
I had a support job for a product written by the CEO of my employer....so nobody could criticize it until our first major customer wanted their money back. I was sent to them for about 3 months and figured out how to improve the product's performance to make it acceptable to the customer....Meanwhile the CEO and VP of development started developement in Brazil to completely re-write it. The Portuguese speaking programmers spent a year on the re-write, didn't leave time for any kind of QA testing and produced another shit product that had to be replaced again... The VP declared it a great product, 10 years later that customer is still using the version I modified....and nobody bought the Brazilian version....
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Got evidence that Russian speaking Ukrainians were being murdered in Donbas prior to 2014? Once Russian troops and Russian backed militias took over there the fighting killed 14,000 or so from 2014 to 2022. Have Russian air and artillery strikes helped save lives? I'd think not.
Where did I say or even suggest that it began prior to 2014? Geez, your straw men are wandering all over the place...
 
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