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Poland..steps up? or Steps in? Fighters to Ukraine

Meanwhile back in reality, huge swaths of Russian citizenry, including it's able-bodied men are fleeing the country like the pussies that they are, because ukrainians are slaughtering them. Mathematically it's something like five Russians killed for every one ukrainian.
Which country is using Nazi storm troopers to kidnap 14 and 15 year-olds off the streets of Odessa? Mathematically speaking, when one side in a conflict has a 10:1 artillery advantage, they don't lose 5 soldiers for every dead enemy.
 

middleview

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NATO's largess is the only reason for Ukraine's rise, and Russia will degrade that improvement over the next twelve months. I suspect you're correct about the future of Ukraine's resistance, but it will be fighting a superpower on its eastern border without the same level of western support it currently receives.

Who gets rich from that?

https://unherd.com/thepost/western-public-support-for-ukraine-is-falling/
Predictable as always....Pro-Putin propaganda. Putin invaded Ukraine and blamed his invasion on them...because they have the gall to elect someone he doesn't like. He supported pro-Moscow militia groups in Donbas and moved Russian troops in to help. They didn't even wear Russian military badges or insignia. He declared war, but made it a crime to call it war. He called for mobilization and people left the country in tens of thousands...His former supporters keep falling from high buildings or commit suicide by shooting themselves four or five times.

Your support for Putin is simply sad.
 
You can't even get your math in order. In order for your numbers to hold it would mean that every single active military duty Ukrainian is now dead. Which we know they're not. The only way Russia attains those numbers is through the slaughter of innocent civilians, which we know it does.
Commentators like Ritter and Macgregor estimate Ukrainian dead at around 300,000 in one year; that compares to around 400,000 US military deaths over the entire course of WWII. What's your estimate of Russian dead over the past twelve months?
 

middleview

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Which country is using Nazi storm troopers to kidnap 14 and 15 year-olds off the streets of Odessa? Mathematically speaking, when one side in a conflict has a 10:1 artillery advantage, they don't lose 5 soldiers for every dead enemy.
which country is recruiting from prisons? Which country is sending untrained convicts into combat? Which country is relying on a contract mercenary organization to do their fighting? The Wagner group isn't even part of the Russian military that you think is doing so well.
 

middleview

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Commentators like Ritter and Macgregor estimate Ukrainian dead at around 300,000 in one year; that compares to around 400,000 US military deaths over the entire course of WWII. What's your estimate of Russian dead over the past twelve months?
How many Ukrainian civilians, women and children, have been slaughtered by Russian artillery and missile attacks? How many Russian civilians have been killed?

Who is on Russia's side in this war? Syria? North Korea? Iran? And who is on Ukraine's side? The rest of the world.
 

middleview

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Which country is using Nazi storm troopers to kidnap 14 and 15 year-olds off the streets of Odessa? Mathematically speaking, when one side in a conflict has a 10:1 artillery advantage, they don't lose 5 soldiers for every dead enemy.
By the way....it is a well known fact that the attacker typically suffers greater casualties than the defender. As the Wagner convicts come out in the open they are easy targets.
 

middleview

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Commentators like Ritter and Macgregor estimate Ukrainian dead at around 300,000 in one year; that compares to around 400,000 US military deaths over the entire course of WWII. What's your estimate of Russian dead over the past twelve months?
And what are the sources quoted by Ritter and Macgregor? Putin?
 
Predictable as always....Pro-Putin propaganda. Putin invaded Ukraine and blamed his invasion on them...because they have the gall to elect someone he doesn't like. He supported pro-Moscow militia groups in Donbas and moved Russian troops in to help. They didn't even wear Russian military badges or insignia. He declared war, but made it a crime to call it war. He called for mobilization and people left the country in tens of thousands...His former supporters keep falling from high buildings or commit suicide by shooting themselves four or five times.

Your support for Putin is simply sad.
Your inability to recognize which country is the greatest purveyor of violence on this planet blinds you to reality; do you find it hard to accept you are NOT one of the good guys?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39126653
 

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Predictable as always....Pro-Putin propaganda. Putin invaded Ukraine and blamed his invasion on them...because they have the gall to elect someone he doesn't like. He supported pro-Moscow militia groups in Donbas and moved Russian troops in to help. They didn't even wear Russian military badges or insignia. He declared war, but made it a crime to call it war. He called for mobilization and people left the country in tens of thousands...His former supporters keep falling from high buildings or commit suicide by shooting themselves four or five times.

Your support for Putin is simply sad.
Or have one fellow soldier jump on the others leg from the top of a staircase to break it so he won't get drafted. I watched the video and without gore, it shows what many Russians think about Putin and his taking of Ukraine.

But there is more that won't get talked about in certain circles.

The biggest question is why Russia, with its supposed superior military, didn't end this war sooner and claim victory? And let's not forget about the Chinese and North Korea when trying to answer the question.

As I said before in a different thread, I think there are other motives-such as other military powerhouses I mentioned above (North Korea is flexing its muscles with its repeated launching of ICBM's to intimidate) are sick and tired of America and its bravado and are working in a concerted effort to bring us to our knees economically and technologically (TikTok).

An interesting commentary below. Here's a tidbit of it;

"And it works. The fact that the radical centrist or mainstream media has been telling that same story, day after day, since the beginning of the invasion six months ago, means that’s what most people think and believe about the war. There’s barely any letup in the mainstream story or any space for dissenting views to be seen or heard. So much for freedom of the press, which has come to mean the owners of the capitalist-owned media are free to formulate and disseminate whatever story they choose—but not that we, as readers, viewers, and listeners, are free to receive a wide range of analyses of what might be going on."

 
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middleview

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Your inability to recognize which country is the greatest purveyor of violence on this planet blinds you to reality; do you find it hard to accept you are NOT one of the good guys?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39126653
From your link:
Daily air strikes by Syria's government and its ally Russia claimed hundreds of lives, according to a new report.
Government forces also dropped chlorine bombs, resulting in hundreds of civilian casualties, it alleges.


Who invaded Ukraine? Who engaged in war in Georgia and Chechnya?

Yes, the US invaded Iraq and shouldn't have. I have repeatedly condemned that war.

You still defend Putin and his war in Ukraine. Putin continues to jail or murder his critics. Is he a good guy?
 
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middleview

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Besides China and India ( the two most populous countries in the world) a majority of this planet is sick of US arrogance and imperialism.

https://neeva.com/search?q=world+support+for+russia&src=nvobar#eoa-rhs
Really? India supports Russia? At best they are not criticizing him.

In a United Nations General Assembly vote held on Thursday, 141 countries called for an end to the fighting and for Russia's immediate withdrawal from Ukraine, 34 countries abstained and seven voted against the resolution

Among the seven were Russia and the four other countries that had backed Putin a year ago (Belarus, Syria, Eritrea and North Korea), as well as Mali and Nicaragua.

 

PhilFish

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PhilFish

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Scott Ritter made that claim in one of his recent interviews.
I suppose it will be years before the objective truth about the casualties of this war will become available?
It's pretty obvious...what with all the dead ukrainians....women.. children.

Objectively..speaking...
 

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Which country is using Nazi storm troopers to kidnap 14 and 15 year-olds off the streets of Odessa? Mathematically speaking, when one side in a conflict has a 10:1 artillery advantage, they don't lose 5 soldiers for every dead enemy.
Russia and it's hoards..


Yet .. they are. Some 500 a day
 

PhilFish

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Commentators like Ritter and Macgregor estimate Ukrainian dead at around 300,000 in one year; that compares to around 400,000 US military deaths over the entire course of WWII. What's your estimate of Russian dead over the past twelve months?
I do t have an estimate I have the census of dead Russian troops. 155k and climbing..
 
From your link:
Daily air strikes by Syria's government and its ally Russia claimed hundreds of lives, according to a new report.
Government forces also dropped chlorine bombs, resulting in hundreds of civilian casualties, it alleges.


Who invaded Ukraine? Who engaged in war in Georgia and Chechnya?

Yes, the US invaded Iraq and shouldn't have. I have repeatedly condemned that war.

You still defend Putin and his war in Ukraine. Putin continues to jail or murder his critics. Is he a good guy?
I don't consider Putin a good guy.
I consider him a capitalist not all that different from Biden or Zelensky.
Capitalism has never existed without war, debt, and imperialism.

US imperialism's effects on the domestic politics of sovereign states takes different forms. When the state is too weak to hit back at the source of terror like in Iraq and Syria, the US resorts to mass murder and displacement.

Russia is not in that category, so US meddling in Ukraine, Georgia, and Chechnya relied on manipulating local prejudices to produce a civil war on Russian borders.

Without US meddling in the domestic politics of countries on the opposite side of the planet, the world would be a much more peaceful place today.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
i'm not casting aspersions on this. but there's a steep learning curve on these things. A bunch of surface to air missiles might have more immediate effect.
You know what would have the MOST "immediate effect?" A nuke! How long before you blood thirsty war mongers start advocating we give Ukraine tactical nukes? After all, anything less just prolongs their misery as they struggle to stay competitive in a war in which they are out manned and out gunned. If you really want them to win, they need one of two things - either NATO troops on the front lines or nukes. Get on that right away, "W" - time's a wasting...
 

middleview

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I don't consider Putin a good guy.
I consider him a capitalist not all that different from Biden or Zelensky.
Capitalism has never existed without war, debt, and imperialism.

US imperialism's effects on the domestic politics of sovereign states takes different forms. When the state is too weak to hit back at the source of terror like in Iraq and Syria, the US resorts to mass murder and displacement.

Russia is not in that category, so US meddling in Ukraine, Georgia, and Chechnya relied on manipulating local prejudices to produce a civil war on Russian borders.

Without US meddling in the domestic politics of countries on the opposite side of the planet, the world would be a much more peaceful place today.
So the invasions of Hungary in 1956, Czechoslovakia in 1968, Afghanistan in 1979 were all the fault of the USA? Putin's invasion of Ukraine was Biden's fault, right?

The US did not cause the civil war in Syria (or Libya), they were the fault of the dictators in those countries. Russia is part and parcel of Assad's mass murder in Syria. The US has only attacked ISIS there and provided weapons to the Free Syrian Army attempted to bring a better government to that country.

The attacks on Georgia and Chechnya were not based on anything the US did.
 
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