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Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Transgender advocates fear FL legislation could ban or restrict drag shows
“Any show, exhibition, or other presentation in front of a live audience which, in whole or in part, depicts or simulates nudity, sexual conduct, sexual excitement, specified sexual activities” as defined by state law (847.001), “lewd conduct, or the lewd exposure of prosthetic or imitation genitals or breasts when it:

/predominantly appeals to a prurient, shameful, or morbid interest;

/is patently offensive to prevailing standards in the adult community of this state as a whole with respect to what is suitable material or conduct for the age of the child present.

/taken as a whole, is without serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value for the age of the child present.”



Transgender advocates fear FL legislation could ban or restrict drag shows - Florida Phoenix
How does:

which, in whole or in part, depicts or simulates nudity, sexual conduct, sexual excitement, specified sexual activities”

In any way, shape or form restrict cross dressing? I see another straw man...
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Your interpretation of that is the problem....not that I don't understand. I saw the look on Dr. Birx's face when Trump announced that disinfectant, taken internally, could cure covid...

Rough year has more to do with the idiots like Dr. Scott Atlas.

Trump officials bragged about pressuring CDC to alter Covid reports, emails reveal

Trump officials bragged about pressuring CDC to alter Covid reports, emails reveal (cnbc.com)
I am unsurprised that, in a sea of "conspiracy theories" turned "conventional wisdom, you choose to float around on that straw man...
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
I am unsurprised that, in a sea of "conspiracy theories" turned "conventional wisdom, you choose to float around on that straw man...
No great shock you don't mind that Trump would change the facts to make his covid response look better. Remember when he called for less testing?
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Regarding Covid...from the get go.

Last weekend, The Times published a survey of pandemic recommendations from experts considering the possibility of another outbreak, and it looked to me as though in nearly every case even those taking the more aggressive side of the argument endorsed mitigation measures that were no stronger and often weaker or more caveated than those that had been put in place in 2020. They did so even though the hypothetical disease they were considering was both more transmissible and more deadly than the new coronavirus (and even though it also affected children and adults equally). That is, faced with a disease that would spread more quickly than Covid, kill more of those infected than Covid, with a mortality burden, compared with Covid’s, markedly rebalanced toward the young, they would vote, in general, to do less.

This isn’t a question limited to abstract, virtual-reality-style debates on op-ed pages and social media. In at least 30 states, The Washington Post reported last week, legislatures have already passed laws limiting public health powers in the wake of the pandemic. Most of the states are in Republican control, but not all, and the restrictions legislated so far are quite intrusive: in many cases, extending outright bans against health officials or governors from issuing mask mandates, closing schools or businesses, restricting large gatherings in places like churches, or testing or vaccine protocols. But what is most striking is how little consideration they give to the particular attributes of future outbreaks — treating a future disease that spreads like measles but kills one in five kids it infects the same as one that spreads like swine flu and doesn’t kill anybody. And stopping public health authorities from doing anything about any of them.

Stop and think about that for a second: As the country emerges from three years of death, disruption and suffering, dozens of states have decided not just that future mitigation measures should be carefully targeted and calibrated, or that they should be time-limited, or that they should always integrate trade-offs and cost-benefit calculations from the beginning. They have decided that the best way to prepare for those future diseases is to tie our hands ahead of time.



Of course, the writer is whining about it (you should read the whole piece - it is a hoot), but the fact is that the majority of Americans are waking up to the completely unnecessary authoritarianism imposed on us by "the experts."

Even The Atlantic has to admit how stupid "the experts" actually are:

Following Your Gut Isn't the Right Way to Go - The Atlantic

Of course, they too whine about it and demand that we continue to get on our knees and accept whatever bad advice they impose upon us.

I think it is hilarious how all these sanctimonious lefties are being forced to address just how badly they erred in demanding our fealty to the likes of Anthony Fauci, Gretchen Whitmer and Joe "beady eyed" Biden, all of whom could not have been more wrong in their Covid beliefs. This isn't rocket science - it is always ALWAYS better to err on the side of freedom and liberty. The people will get it right way more frequently that the pols (and their conflicted "experts").

The line forms on the, um, left, to stop by here and congratulate me on getting this covid situation correct from day 1.
Oh no. Got everybody. Next time there's a pandemic you don't wear shit okay? The rest of the world will go about its business following recommendations. But you you do your thing okay no mask no nothing, just grab everything and then lick your hands afterwards it'll be fine
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Oh no. Got everybody. Next time there's a pandemic you don't wear shit okay? The rest of the world will go about its business following recommendations. But you you do your thing okay no mask no nothing, just grab everything and then lick your hands afterwards it'll be fine
What? You don't find his medical advice very useful?
 

EatTheRich

President
How does:

which, in whole or in part, depicts or simulates nudity, sexual conduct, sexual excitement, specified sexual activities”

In any way, shape or form restrict cross dressing? I see another straw man...
So there’s nothing sexual about cross dressing, and your hysterics about “drag queen story hour” were in bad faith?
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Oh no. Got everybody. Next time there's a pandemic you don't wear shit okay? The rest of the world will go about its business following recommendations. But you you do your thing okay no mask no nothing, just grab everything and then lick your hands afterwards it'll be fine


U mad bro? Chillax, What are you so angry about? I am not the least bit interested in taking away your ability to wear your face diaper. Getting so incensed over my standing up for my Constitutional right to be free from the medical burka laws that so obviously give you a stiffy simply "obviously" proves my point that it isn't about public health at all. After all, it's not like there is ironclad proof that mask mandates reduce transmission:

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It is clearly not about the demonstrated proof of the beneficial effects of mask mandates. If it was you wouldn't be blustering all about the joint. So, if you strip that away, the only reason left is the exhilaration lefties get from controlling the behavior of others. And the more you fuss about it, the more "obvious" it becomes.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
So there’s nothing sexual about cross dressing, and your hysterics about “drag queen story hour” were in bad faith?
Not necessarily, obviously.

After all, there's this:

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And then there's this:

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This is NOT rocket science...
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
U mad bro? Chillax, What are you so angry about? I am not the least bit interested in taking away your ability to wear your face diaper. Getting so incensed over my standing up for my Constitutional right to be free from the medical burka laws that so obviously give you a stiffy simply "obviously" proves my point that it isn't about public health at all. After all, it's not like there is ironclad proof that mask mandates reduce transmission:

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It is clearly not about the demonstrated proof of the beneficial effects of mask mandates. If it was you wouldn't be blustering all about the joint. So, if you strip that away, the only reason left is the exhilaration lefties get from controlling the behavior of others. And the more you fuss about it, the more "obvious" it becomes.
Nightly news has a report of people upset of people coughing on airplanes, so why not just put their mask on and STHU if Mask work?
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
Nightly news has a report of people upset of people coughing on airplanes, so why not just put their mask on and STHU if Mask work?
As politics continues to infiltrate and overwhelm every institution, so-called “experts” are less and less to be trusted. Weaponized government agencies selectively (and creatively) investigate, staged TV-produced events from committees to pre-announced SWAT team engagements, universities and medical associations re-working gender dysphoria to now be merely another “choice”, heck…you can’t even watch a ballgame of any sort without hyper-political activists coopting and remaking the deliverable into political endeavor.

Nope. There has never been a time in which “experts” should be so vigorously vetted/doubted/and triple-checked. It has never been more important to “be your own expert”. Recent history demonstrates that deference is not rational.

Ok, cowardly PJ sloths…let’s have some of your gay emoticons loading up the alerts again. That’ll really be compelling. Idiots.
 
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PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
U mad bro? Chillax, What are you so angry about? I am not the least bit interested in taking away your ability to wear your face diaper. Getting so incensed over my standing up for my Constitutional right to be free from the medical burka laws that so obviously give you a stiffy simply "obviously" proves my point that it isn't about public health at all. After all, it's not like there is ironclad proof that mask mandates reduce transmission:

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It is clearly not about the demonstrated proof of the beneficial effects of mask mandates. If it was you wouldn't be blustering all about the joint. So, if you strip that away, the only reason left is the exhilaration lefties get from controlling the behavior of others. And the more you fuss about it, the more "obvious" it becomes.
Ze babbledy what?
Jesus, and you can't read

Just retard.

Check.
 

bdtex

Administrator
Staff member
Getting so incensed over my standing up for my Constitutional right to be free from the medical burka laws that so obviously give you a stiffy simply "obviously" proves my point that it isn't about public health at all.
Even when the daily death toll from Covid was at it's worth, you didn't give 2 shits about "public health". You demonstrated that as much then as you do now. It's always been about politics to you. You haven't fooled anyone.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Even when the daily death toll from Covid was at it's worth, you didn't give 2 shits about "public health". You demonstrated that as much then as you do now. It's always been about politics to you. You haven't fooled anyone.
At it's "worth?"

You don't give "2 shits about public health" yourself. All you care about is expanding authoritarian government control over us. Our "public health" would have been vastly improved by allowing the young and the healthy to catch covid and develop antibodies. Covid never presented a health threat to the vast majority of the population. That is a fact if you look at the data. Treating it like everyone was going to die was either a tragic error or a malevolent plot. I'm leaning toward the latter...
 
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