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Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Seems like all these deep state conspiracies have to do with emails, laptops, diaries and other silly shit. And after 5 years of laptop, 8 years of emails and a couple years of diaries…..Still not one damn indictment…..Pretty funny in my book…
Being part of the political Elite has advantages regular citizen don't have nor will ever have.
It's all good, judgement day will arrive and being Elite will not make a damn.
 

Jack4freedom

Governor
Being part of the political Elite has advantages regular citizen don't have nor will ever have.
It's all good, judgement day will arrive and being Elite will not make a damn.
Any God I believe in doesn’t give a shit about emails, laptops, texts and diaries. All this political chickenshit doesn’t amount to a hill of beans in the grand scheme of things in the universe. Anyway, that’s how I see it….
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Any God I believe in doesn’t give a shit about emails, laptops, texts and diaries. All this political chickenshit doesn’t amount to a hill of beans in the grand scheme of things in the universe. Anyway, that’s how I see it….
The 10 Commandments don't have to have anything to do with politics.
I'm a sinner, we're all Sinners and will have our judgement day, especially the one's hated here in PJ so it's all good.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
The investigation was phony and based upon a false premise. It should have never been started.
So when someone is murdered, one of the first things the investigators will check is whether or not the deceased had life insurance....because the first person they'll investigate is anyone who benefited from the death.

The Russians hacked the DNC. DNC Email shows up at Wikileaks and is very obviously intended to hurt Hillary Clinton. Fake accounts show up on social media and pump out crap that in meant to help Trump...

You don't think the investigation would focus on who it helps? The IG report conluded that there was ample motivation for the Crossfire investigation. Durham doesn't think so. Did Durham indict anyone for other than trivial crap? Deleting one line of an email because the attorney thought it irrelevant, did not mean the email was a fraud. The other two indicted by Durham were found not guilty....

The Durham report stated on page 17:

As noted, former FBI attorney Kevin Clinesmith committed a criminal offense by fabricating language in an email that was material to the FBI obtaining a FISA surveillance order.

In fact what Clinesmith did was delete one line from an email that said Carter Page had cooperated with the FBI in 2013. He thought what Page had done three years ago wasn't relevant...
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
So when someone is murdered, one of the first things the investigators will check is whether or not the deceased had life insurance....because the first person they'll investigate is anyone who benefited from the death.

The Russians hacked the DNC. DNC Email shows up at Wikileaks and is very obviously intended to hurt Hillary Clinton. Fake accounts show up on social media and pump out crap that in meant to help Trump...

You don't think the investigation would focus on who it helps? The IG report conluded that there was ample motivation for the Crossfire investigation. Durham doesn't think so. Did Durham indict anyone for other than trivial crap? Deleting one line of an email because the attorney thought it irrelevant, did not mean the email was a fraud. The other two indicted by Durham were found not guilty....

The Durham report stated on page 17:

As noted, former FBI attorney Kevin Clinesmith committed a criminal offense by fabricating language in an email that was material to the FBI obtaining a FISA surveillance order.

In fact what Clinesmith did was delete one line from an email that said Carter Page had cooperated with the FBI in 2013. He thought what Page had done three years ago wasn't relevant...
Yeah, the one who stood to "benefit the most" from the DNC email hack was Hillary Clinton who was trying to frame Trump as having conspired with "Russia" to, well, hack their emails.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Yeah, the one who stood to "benefit the most" from the DNC email hack was Hillary Clinton who was trying to frame Trump as having conspired with "Russia" to, well, hack their emails.
And then there all those contacts the Clinton campaign had with Russian officials...and the time her campaign folks went to Russia and were paid to have dinner with Putin...and the internal polling data shared with a Russian agent...and her best buddy contacting Assange about the next batch of emails from the DNC...as well as the thousands of social media accounts the Russians set up...

Ooops..that was all Trump...
 

EatTheRich

President
Yes, because Hillary's plan totally backfired...
Her plan was to somehow get Trump to publicly solicit the assistance of Russian intelligence, have Russian intelligence intervene in a big way to help him, and then somehow use that sequence of events to boost her chances? Is the reason the plan “backfired” that the FBI kept the investigation so closely guarded that the public had no hint of an investigation into the Trump campaign until after the election?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Yes, because Hillary's plan totally backfired...
Unreal...so the Mueller investigation didn't even start until 2017...was that part of Hillary's plan? The FISA warrant did not take effect until a couple of days before the election. The Steele document did not have anything at all to do with Crossfire.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Unreal...so the Mueller investigation didn't even start until 2017...was that part of Hillary's plan? The FISA warrant did not take effect until a couple of days before the election. The Steele document did not have anything at all to do with Crossfire.
Absolutely! After the plan failed to derail his election, the "insurance policy" kicked in which was 1) push Sessions aside 2) implement a full court press against the POTUS, based on totally debunked allegations that THEY KNEW WERE FABRICATED BY CLINTON - of which Mueller was a big part and 3) when that failed, go after him via impeachment on (pun intended) Trumped up charges.

It most certainly did! Suggesting that the allegations in the dossier didn't exist until its publication is a fantastical argument. Regardless, it most certainly HAD something to do with Crossfire Hurricane once it was released, if not before. Besides, that leaves the Downer "tip" as the only predicate, and we know Papadopoulos has repeatedly denied that he made that statement, and the CI they sent to record him incriminating himself failed miserably as he repeatedly stated on the tapes that he was not involved in any such activity and that engaging in such behavior would be treasonous. Oops!
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Her plan was to somehow get Trump to publicly solicit the assistance of Russian intelligence, have Russian intelligence intervene in a big way to help him, and then somehow use that sequence of events to boost her chances? Is the reason the plan “backfired” that the FBI kept the investigation so closely guarded that the public had no hint of an investigation into the Trump campaign until after the election?
They were obviously betting on the come - assuming something illegal would turn up in their "spying" on his campaign (there's another "conspiracy theory" that blew up in the face of the left).
 

EatTheRich

President
They were obviously betting on the come - assuming something illegal would turn up in their "spying" on his campaign (there's another "conspiracy theory" that blew up in the face of the left).
Like Flynn acting as an unregistered foreign agent, as discovered prior to the election? Something that if made public would have assured that there would be no chance in hell Trump would be elected?
 

EatTheRich

President
Absolutely! After the plan failed to derail his election, the "insurance policy" kicked in which was 1) push Sessions aside 2) implement a full court press against the POTUS, based on totally debunked allegations that THEY KNEW WERE FABRICATED BY CLINTON - of which Mueller was a big part and 3) when that failed, go after him via impeachment on (pun intended) Trumped up charges.

It most certainly did! Suggesting that the allegations in the dossier didn't exist until its publication is a fantastical argument. Regardless, it most certainly HAD something to do with Crossfire Hurricane once it was released, if not before. Besides, that leaves the Downer "tip" as the only predicate, and we know Papadopoulos has repeatedly denied that he made that statement, and the CI they sent to record him incriminating himself failed miserably as he repeatedly stated on the tapes that he was not involved in any such activity and that engaging in such behavior would be treasonous. Oops!
Yes, many of the allegations in the dossier existed prior to the dossier's publication, because they were independently confirmed by other sources separate from Steele's confirmation of the same. Any of several people in the FBI, including anyone involved in Crossfire Hurricane, could have torpedoed any chance Trump had of election once and for all by treating the investigation of Trump the same way Comey treated the investigation of Clinton.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Yes, many of the allegations in the dossier existed prior to the dossier's publication, because they were independently confirmed by other sources separate from Steele's confirmation of the same. Any of several people in the FBI, including anyone involved in Crossfire Hurricane, could have torpedoed any chance Trump had of election once and for all by treating the investigation of Trump the same way Comey treated the investigation of Clinton.
They couldn't do that because they knew they had fabricated the predicate and that none of that sh*t was true. The whole purpose of Crossfire Hurricane was to find something that WAS true and then use that to derail Trump's election. They didn't because (unlike with Clinton) there wasn't anything to find.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Like Flynn acting as an unregistered foreign agent, as discovered prior to the election? Something that if made public would have assured that there would be no chance in hell Trump would be elected?
That is, quite frankly, absurd.
 
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