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Boltlady

Mayor
Soon we will be celebrating Memorial Day. There is one important group that always gets ignored however.

uss liberty veterans association
USS LibertyON JUNE 8, 1967, while patrolling in international waters in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea, USS Liberty (AGTR-5) was savagely attacked without warning or justification by air and naval forces of the state of Israel. Of a crew of 294 officers and men (including three civilians), the ship suffered thirty four (34) killed in action and one hundred seventy three (173) wounded in action. The ship itself, a Forty Million ($40,000,000) Dollar state of the art signals intelligence (SIGINT) platform, was so badly damaged that it never sailed on an operational mission again and was sold in 1970 for $101,666.66 as scrap.

At 1400 hours, while approximately about 17 nautical miles off the northern Sinai coast and about 25 nautical miles northwest of El Arish, USS Liberty’s crew observed three surface radar contacts closing with their position at high speed. A few moments later, the bridge radar crew observed high speed aircraft passing over the surface returns on the same heading. Within a few short moments, and without any warning, Israeli fighter aircraft launched a rocket attack on USS Liberty. The aircraft made repeated firing passes, attacking USS Liberty with rockets and their internal cannons. After the first flight of fighter aircraft had exhausted their ordnance, subsequent flights of Israeli fighter aircraft continued to prosecute the attack with rockets, cannon fire, and napalm.

During the air attack, USS Liberty’s crew had difficulty contacting Sixth Fleet to request assistance due to intense communications jamming. The initial targets on the ship were the command bridge, communications antennas, and the four .50 caliber machine guns, placed on the ship to repel boarders. After the Israeli fighter aircraft completed their attacks, three Israeli torpedo boats arrived and began a surface attack about 35 minutes after the start of the air attack. The torpedo boats launched a total of five torpedoes, one of which struck the side of USS Liberty, opposite the ship’s research spaces. Twenty-five Americans, in addition to the nine who had been killed in the earlier air attacks, were killed as a result of this explosion.

Sixth Fleet Abandons USS Liberty Under Fire.
DoD Approves Of Their Action

USS LibertyThe Department of Defense Law of War Program (DoD Directive 2311.01E – formerly DoD Directive 5100.77) provides that “All reportable incidents committed by or against U.S. personnel, enemy persons, or any other individual are reported promptly, investigated thoroughly, and, where appropriate, remedied by corrective action.”

On June 8, 2005 the USS Liberty Veterans Association submitted A Report of War Crimes Committed Against the USS Liberty, June 8, 1967 to the Department of Defense in accordance with the DoD Law of War Program.

The War Crimes Report we filed lists allegations of acts committed during the attack on our ship, including:

The jamming of our radios on both US Navy tactical and international maritime distress frequencies;
The use of unmarked aircraft by the forces attacking the USS Liberty;
The deliberate machine gunning of life rafts we had dropped over the side in anticipation of abandoning ship; and
The recall of two flights of rescue aircraft that had een launched from Sixth Fleet aircraft carriers. After those flights were recalled, Sixth Fleet personnel listened to our calls for help as the attack continued knowing they were forbidden to come to our assistance.
The Department of Defense has unilaterally waived its obligation under the Department of Defense Law of War Program by refusing to investigate the allegations contained in the War Crimes Report. The Department of Defense has also refused to provide a speaker to address the crew of the USS Liberty and explain their actions with regard to the War Crimes Report.
 

Jack4freedom

Governor
Soon we will be celebrating Memorial Day. There is one important group that always gets ignored however.

uss liberty veterans association
USS LibertyON JUNE 8, 1967, while patrolling in international waters in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea, USS Liberty (AGTR-5) was savagely attacked without warning or justification by air and naval forces of the state of Israel. Of a crew of 294 officers and men (including three civilians), the ship suffered thirty four (34) killed in action and one hundred seventy three (173) wounded in action. The ship itself, a Forty Million ($40,000,000) Dollar state of the art signals intelligence (SIGINT) platform, was so badly damaged that it never sailed on an operational mission again and was sold in 1970 for $101,666.66 as scrap.

At 1400 hours, while approximately about 17 nautical miles off the northern Sinai coast and about 25 nautical miles northwest of El Arish, USS Liberty’s crew observed three surface radar contacts closing with their position at high speed. A few moments later, the bridge radar crew observed high speed aircraft passing over the surface returns on the same heading. Within a few short moments, and without any warning, Israeli fighter aircraft launched a rocket attack on USS Liberty. The aircraft made repeated firing passes, attacking USS Liberty with rockets and their internal cannons. After the first flight of fighter aircraft had exhausted their ordnance, subsequent flights of Israeli fighter aircraft continued to prosecute the attack with rockets, cannon fire, and napalm.

During the air attack, USS Liberty’s crew had difficulty contacting Sixth Fleet to request assistance due to intense communications jamming. The initial targets on the ship were the command bridge, communications antennas, and the four .50 caliber machine guns, placed on the ship to repel boarders. After the Israeli fighter aircraft completed their attacks, three Israeli torpedo boats arrived and began a surface attack about 35 minutes after the start of the air attack. The torpedo boats launched a total of five torpedoes, one of which struck the side of USS Liberty, opposite the ship’s research spaces. Twenty-five Americans, in addition to the nine who had been killed in the earlier air attacks, were killed as a result of this explosion.

Sixth Fleet Abandons USS Liberty Under Fire.
DoD Approves Of Their Action

USS LibertyThe Department of Defense Law of War Program (DoD Directive 2311.01E – formerly DoD Directive 5100.77) provides that “All reportable incidents committed by or against U.S. personnel, enemy persons, or any other individual are reported promptly, investigated thoroughly, and, where appropriate, remedied by corrective action.”

On June 8, 2005 the USS Liberty Veterans Association submitted A Report of War Crimes Committed Against the USS Liberty, June 8, 1967 to the Department of Defense in accordance with the DoD Law of War Program.

The War Crimes Report we filed lists allegations of acts committed during the attack on our ship, including:

The jamming of our radios on both US Navy tactical and international maritime distress frequencies;
The use of unmarked aircraft by the forces attacking the USS Liberty;
The deliberate machine gunning of life rafts we had dropped over the side in anticipation of abandoning ship; and
The recall of two flights of rescue aircraft that had een launched from Sixth Fleet aircraft carriers. After those flights were recalled, Sixth Fleet personnel listened to our calls for help as the attack continued knowing they were forbidden to come to our assistance.
The Department of Defense has unilaterally waived its obligation under the Department of Defense Law of War Program by refusing to investigate the allegations contained in the War Crimes Report. The Department of Defense has also refused to provide a speaker to address the crew of the USS Liberty and explain their actions with regard to the War Crimes Report.
I agree that the Israeli government has always been a piss poor ally. They still revere terrorist murderers like Begin, Sharon and others. Netanyahu is definitely cut from the same cloth as those guys.
 

Boltlady

Mayor
There's a lot out there about it. The survivors weren't allowed to tell their story for many years but as time goes by they're willing to deal with the threats they were given.
The memorial never gets mentioned in the media.
  1. https://www.military.com › daily-news › 2022 › 06 › 08 › were-fed-it-survivors-of-uss-liberty-look-answers-55-years-later.html
    'We're Fed Up With It': Survivors of the USS Liberty Look for Answers ...
    Jun 8, 2022Survivors of the USS Liberty stand in front of the ship's memorial at Arlington National Cemetery, Section 34 on June 8, 2022. ... The VA expects its disability claims backlog to spike in the ...
 

Boltlady

Mayor
This next one is a survivor who actually lives near me and was mentioned in our local paper. Even though there are more I won't bother you with any more articles now. If you have any interest, there is information out there from the survivors. It was a horrific experience for them all.

  1. https://www.pilotonline.com › military › article_17d56d8c-7b35-11e9-8a43-cfee98e3e131.html
    Every Memorial Day, this USS Liberty survivor displays 34 flags in ...
    John Fisher is photographed in front of his home in Virginia Beach on Friday, May 24, 2019. Fisher was aboard the USS Liberty when it was attacked by Israel on June 8, 1967, killing 34.
 
Soon we will be celebrating Memorial Day. There is one important group that always gets ignored however.

uss liberty veterans association
USS LibertyON JUNE 8, 1967, while patrolling in international waters in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea, USS Liberty (AGTR-5) was savagely attacked without warning or justification by air and naval forces of the state of Israel. Of a crew of 294 officers and men (including three civilians), the ship suffered thirty four (34) killed in action and one hundred seventy three (173) wounded in action. The ship itself, a Forty Million ($40,000,000) Dollar state of the art signals intelligence (SIGINT) platform, was so badly damaged that it never sailed on an operational mission again and was sold in 1970 for $101,666.66 as scrap.

At 1400 hours, while approximately about 17 nautical miles off the northern Sinai coast and about 25 nautical miles northwest of El Arish, USS Liberty’s crew observed three surface radar contacts closing with their position at high speed. A few moments later, the bridge radar crew observed high speed aircraft passing over the surface returns on the same heading. Within a few short moments, and without any warning, Israeli fighter aircraft launched a rocket attack on USS Liberty. The aircraft made repeated firing passes, attacking USS Liberty with rockets and their internal cannons. After the first flight of fighter aircraft had exhausted their ordnance, subsequent flights of Israeli fighter aircraft continued to prosecute the attack with rockets, cannon fire, and napalm.

During the air attack, USS Liberty’s crew had difficulty contacting Sixth Fleet to request assistance due to intense communications jamming. The initial targets on the ship were the command bridge, communications antennas, and the four .50 caliber machine guns, placed on the ship to repel boarders. After the Israeli fighter aircraft completed their attacks, three Israeli torpedo boats arrived and began a surface attack about 35 minutes after the start of the air attack. The torpedo boats launched a total of five torpedoes, one of which struck the side of USS Liberty, opposite the ship’s research spaces. Twenty-five Americans, in addition to the nine who had been killed in the earlier air attacks, were killed as a result of this explosion.

Sixth Fleet Abandons USS Liberty Under Fire.
DoD Approves Of Their Action

USS LibertyThe Department of Defense Law of War Program (DoD Directive 2311.01E – formerly DoD Directive 5100.77) provides that “All reportable incidents committed by or against U.S. personnel, enemy persons, or any other individual are reported promptly, investigated thoroughly, and, where appropriate, remedied by corrective action.”

On June 8, 2005 the USS Liberty Veterans Association submitted A Report of War Crimes Committed Against the USS Liberty, June 8, 1967 to the Department of Defense in accordance with the DoD Law of War Program.

The War Crimes Report we filed lists allegations of acts committed during the attack on our ship, including:

The jamming of our radios on both US Navy tactical and international maritime distress frequencies;
The use of unmarked aircraft by the forces attacking the USS Liberty;
The deliberate machine gunning of life rafts we had dropped over the side in anticipation of abandoning ship; and
The recall of two flights of rescue aircraft that had een launched from Sixth Fleet aircraft carriers. After those flights were recalled, Sixth Fleet personnel listened to our calls for help as the attack continued knowing they were forbidden to come to our assistance.
The Department of Defense has unilaterally waived its obligation under the Department of Defense Law of War Program by refusing to investigate the allegations contained in the War Crimes Report. The Department of Defense has also refused to provide a speaker to address the crew of the USS Liberty and explain their actions with regard to the War Crimes Report.
this was a case of misidentification, right?
 

Boltlady

Mayor
this was a case of misidentification, right?
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No it was not misidentification. A few years ago I read quite a lot about the situation. Our gov't tried to pass it off as a mistake but it was absolutely deliberate. The Israeli's only had to pay $6 million for restitution.

Take the time to read the pieces that I posted and then look further as to what was written by survivors, the captain of the ship, the captain of the carrier that tried to send some fighter planes to help but was ordered back by McNamara and then some accounts by some Israeli pilots in later years who felt guilty about the part they played.

Ironically the only reason that it didn't finally get sunk was the fact that a Russian trawler was spotted in he distance that was coming to help.
 

Boltlady

Mayor
OK, I promised that I wouldn't paste anymore of the myriad of articles about the 34 dead and 176 wounded men from the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty on June 8, 1967. Of course the vast majority of those articles have been either written by or based on interviews of the survivors. But I'll bet that you haven't seen it mentioned in any of today's memorials.

The story of that ship is a prime example of how information is simply covered up by the gov't and the media when they don't want you to know something. The USS Liberty was a communications/spy ship following Israel's activities during the 6 day war. Israel did not want things they were doing to be reported on so the plan (along with agreement from our gov't), was to sink the ship. When the attack started the radioman managed to get one SOS out before all the equipment was jammed.

When the ship managed to limp into port with serious damage from the shelling, the crew was under strict orders/threats to not tell what really happened. The Israeli's said it was a mistake because they thought they were attacking an Egyptian ship carrying horses. There are examples on the net of the dimensions and appearance of what the Egyptian ship would have looked like and the USS Liberty, Not even close. It was only on the 'news' for about a week and then things moved on.

Those people need to be remembered. It's a very black mark on our gov't and Israel for what happened to those poor souls. Make no mistake, I very much believe in our country but sometimes our people do bad things.
 
OK, I promised that I wouldn't paste anymore of the myriad of articles about the 34 dead and 176 wounded men from the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty on June 8, 1967. Of course the vast majority of those articles have been either written by or based on interviews of the survivors. But I'll bet that you haven't seen it mentioned in any of today's memorials.

The story of that ship is a prime example of how information is simply covered up by the gov't and the media when they don't want you to know something. The USS Liberty was a communications/spy ship following Israel's activities during the 6 day war. Israel did not want things they were doing to be reported on so the plan (along with agreement from our gov't), was to sink the ship. When the attack started the radioman managed to get one SOS out before all the equipment was jammed.

When the ship managed to limp into port with serious damage from the shelling, the crew was under strict orders/threats to not tell what really happened. The Israeli's said it was a mistake because they thought they were attacking an Egyptian ship carrying horses. There are examples on the net of the dimensions and appearance of what the Egyptian ship would have looked like and the USS Liberty, Not even close. It was only on the 'news' for about a week and then things moved on.

Those people need to be remembered. It's a very black mark on our gov't and Israel for what happened to those poor souls. Make no mistake, I very much believe in our country but sometimes our people do bad things.
In that Nuremberg War Crimes trials suicidal super ego condescending arrogance national religion of Christiananality pedophilia SCOTUS Fourth Reich July 9/11 master race cognitive dissonance master plan tradition maybe joining those crooks on Capital Hill to uphold "one nation under God with equal justice under law" Library of Congress evidence; but in all "man is God" Islamidiotocracy statistical probability better never than late......
 
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