EatTheRich
President
Yes, people accurately see how a leadership like Trump’s greases the skids for one like Hitler’s, and mobilize to counter the menace of a new Holocaust.
The last time Comey came out to tell us the FBI was investigating Hillary...
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God of War
Governor
So you admit to the leftist Jewish cabal arrayed against Trump?
EatTheRich
President
I admit leftist opposition to Trump. A lot of Jews are leftists because they tend to be educated and urban, or because they don’t want another Hitler, but there is nothing fundamentally Jewish about the broad-based leftist coalition for liberation.
God of War
Governor
90% of Jews in America have voted Democrat for the last 90 years. 60% of Jews in Israel have vote conservative off and on since 1947 (or whenever). So Jews can be conservative. Jews in America as they have gained power have increasingly put America into fail mode. They are a complete disaster.
EatTheRich
President
I would say much of what is worthwhile about American culture and in particular the freedom we enjoy is due to Jewish influence.
God of War
Governor
Sure, when the influence was well modulated. Now the influence is detrimental verging on extremely so.
EatTheRich
President
16 million Americans fought a war against this sentiment.
God of War
Governor
See, you're neurotic on the subject.
EatTheRich
President
I have a healthy aversion to the genocide that antisemitism has led to so many times.
God of War
Governor
Why have there been so many anti-semitic genocides?
EatTheRich
President
Because an exploiting ruling class can only maintain its rule at the expense of the majority by dividing us and setting up people as scapegoats for the results of its rule.
God of War
Governor
Yeah, I'm not getting past all the commie talk. How about you parse that out for me. Why have there been so many antisemitic genocides?
EatTheRich
President
Because the capitalist market systematically reproduces bigotry, societal breakdown, violence, and persecution.
God of War
Governor
1) Capitalism does no such thing but... are you saying because Jews are better capitalists they systematically bring bigotry, societal breakdown, violence and persecutuion down on themselves?
2) But why Jews? Why not some other minority? Yes, we hear Jews talk about antisemitism and their oppression but never the why of it. Why?
EatTheRich
President
Because Jews were one of a handful of groups to play a special economic function in the early and Middle Ages of Western civilization. They played the role of capitalists (merchants and moneylenders) in a time before capitalism was generalized. Therefore they are convenient scapegoats when capitalism predictably fails and the rulers want to divert attention away from themselves onto a people that is now mostly working class.
God of War
Governor
So Jews were the only real capitalists ("before capitalism was generalized") and so they brought genocide onto themselves? What other groups besides Jews? Ukrainians? Armenians? Poles? But why so many times (per you) the Jews? I don't think it was because Jews were capitalists and everybody else wasn't.
Is that what Jewish Karl Marx thought? Make jews not capitalists but Marxist and the genocides will stop? Was Karl saving his people Moses style?
EatTheRich
President
He argued that freeing the Jews meant freeing us from the system of exploitation pioneered by Jews, Lombards, Templars, the Hanseatic cities, Dutch, and other proto-capitalists at the time when the majority of exploitation was of the antique or feudal form.
God of War
Governor
I really dont' understand the why of it though. Why Jews?
Why not ALL bankers and financiers? Oh, wait... communism. Communism genocides the bankers and financiers.
EatTheRich
President
Communism ends the rule of the bankers and financiers. Antisemitism protects their rule by deflecting anger from them and onto innocent Jews. Jews make a convenient target for the rulers’ scapegoating because as a community they provided many of the loans to much of the world for centuries (that is, before capitalism became the general rule and not an adjunct to precapitalist economics).
God of War
Governor
At some point you're going to come to the realization of your great inconsistency of argument.
I think that predominantly the Jews grew powerful via the few Jewish men of great wealth, not all Jews have been financiers and bankers but a minority, who then undertook to apply their value system and their political machinations on the majority population. That's when the ordinary shop owning Jew suffered. Today the fact Jews malign conservatives and flock to one party that they vote for in 90% numbers is the problem. In the early 2000's only Nazi's online Jew counted. Today many more do. Black people do to an extent. Hispanics not yet. It is the neurosis that will perpetuate the evil in a self-fulfilling prophesy kind of way.
