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Democrats say Trump had nuclear codes. Republicans say the FBI planted evidence.

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Senator
You realize it is the POTUS that decides and has final say on what is Top Secret and not Top Secret correct? Do you really think in the 30k boxes Obama left with NONE of those papers still say "top secret" on them? Or Clinton? Or George W. Bush..........

Do you actually have any idea what it is you are talking about?

Reality is like a brick wall to you guys, you keep throwing up your sad talking points and bashing your head into it. It would be really funny if you were not at the same time flushing the country right down the toilet.

This was more made for TV bullshit from your FAscist regime.
o_O

Where does it say that a president can wave a wand and render any and all top secret material, especially concerning our nuclear capabilities, UNCLASSIFIED?

You're FOS
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
You realize it is the POTUS that decides and has final say on what is Top Secret and not Top Secret correct? Do you really think in the 30k boxes Obama left with NONE of those papers still say "top secret" on them? Or Clinton? Or George W. Bush..........

Do you actually have any idea what it is you are talking about?

Reality is like a brick wall to you guys, you keep throwing up your sad talking points and bashing your head into it. It would be really funny if you were not at the same time flushing the country right down the toilet.

This was more made for TV bullshit from your FAscist regime.
The potus is not the one that decides what is top secret. A lot of agencies make that determination. I had a clearance higher than top secret....I couldn't even tell you what it was unless you had a top secret....Trust me, the instructions I received in accepting the clearance was pretty explicit in terms of the process. There is no way the president would get anywhere near a lot of the documents processed on an average day....the suggestion is idiotic.

Trump did not get to declare something declassified without paper work...and I've already linked to the process here. There is no paperwork that was filed with the archive to declassify the documents and each document, if declassified, then has it's old classification crossed out and the new one stamped on it.

Obama did not leave with boxes of documents. That is crap that Trump invented....right out of thin air. You can't be that gullible...

Obama didn’t keep millions of classified White House documents
CLAIM: Former President Barack Obama took 30 million documents, many of them classified, to Chicago upon leaving the White House.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Obama administration records are exclusively held and maintained by the National Archives and Records Administration, the federal agency confirmed on Friday. Millions of unclassified documents were transferred after Obama left office to a NARA facility in Chicago, but neither Obama’s personal foundation nor the facility set to house his presidential memorabilia have control over those papers.


 
The potus is not the one that decides what is top secret. A lot of agencies make that determination. I had a clearance higher than top secret....I couldn't even tell you what it was unless you had a top secret....Trust me, the instructions I received in accepting the clearance was pretty explicit in terms of the process. There is no way the president would get anywhere near a lot of the documents processed on an average day....the suggestion is idiotic.

Trump did not get to declare something declassified without paper work...and I've already linked to the process here. There is no paperwork that was filed with the archive to declassify the documents and each document, if declassified, then has it's old classification crossed out and the new one stamped on it.

Obama did not leave with boxes of documents. That is crap that Trump invented....right out of thin air. You can't be that gullible...

Obama didn’t keep millions of classified White House documents
CLAIM: Former President Barack Obama took 30 million documents, many of them classified, to Chicago upon leaving the White House.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Obama administration records are exclusively held and maintained by the National Archives and Records Administration, the federal agency confirmed on Friday. Millions of unclassified documents were transferred after Obama left office to a NARA facility in Chicago, but neither Obama’s personal foundation nor the facility set to house his presidential memorabilia have control over those papers.


o_O

Where does it say that a president can wave a wand and render any and all top secret material, especially concerning our nuclear capabilities, UNCLASSIFIED?

You're FOS
The President has final say on what is classified and what is not. Nobody cares what you linked to, you have ZERO evidence that suggest that process was not followed....

As for Nuclear information, all you two morons and our corrupt FBI/DOJ have to do now is prove that Trump had "nuclear secrets"....earlier the fascist were claiming he had "codes"... as if they don't change them...:rolleyes:

Which is complete and utter bullshit......but it won't stop the useful idiots from lying about it.

Not that it would ever strike you guys as odd becuase you have no thoughts to call your own but....... have you ever asked yourself, if what the FBI is doing lawful, not driven by power and politics, why do we now have 14 WHISTLEBLOWERS.......and counting, willing to say the exact opposite.......

Good luck will all that Children.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
The President has final say on what is classified and what is not. Nobody cares what you linked to, you have ZERO evidence that suggest that process was not followed....

As for Nuclear information, all you two morons and our corrupt FBI/DOJ have to do now is prove that Trump had "nuclear secrets"....earlier the fascist were claiming he had "codes"... as if they don't change them...:rolleyes:

Which is complete and utter bullshit......but it won't stop the useful idiots from lying about it.

Not that it would ever strike you guys as odd becuase you have no thoughts to call your own but....... have you ever asked yourself, if what the FBI is doing lawful, not driven by power and politics, why do we now have 14 WHISTLEBLOWERS.......and counting, willing to say the exact opposite.......

Good luck will all that Children.
Got any details on those whistle blowers? Nah. So you're just accepting what Jordan tells you.
 
Got any details on those whistle blowers? Nah. So you're just accepting what Jordan tells you.
Why would I have details on a whistleblower? You doubt that but believe Trump had "nuclear codes"...

It's all bullshit, I fully expect the FBI/DOJ to claim next they were looking for Jimmy Hoffa.....
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Why would I have details on a whistleblower? You doubt that but believe Trump had "nuclear codes"...

It's all bullshit, I fully expect the FBI/DOJ to claim next they were looking for Jimmy Hoffa.....
No, I don't think codes were the issue...but making shit up is your usual.

Jordan claimed one whistle blower said conservatives at the FBI were being fired...anything about the warrant? No...but you think because Jordan talks about a hndful of whistle blowers it means everything the do is suspect...but really don't know shit.
 
No, I don't think codes were the issue...but making shit up is your usual.

Jordan claimed one whistle blower said conservatives at the FBI were being fired...anything about the warrant? No...but you think because Jordan talks about a hndful of whistle blowers it means everything the do is suspect...but really don't know shit.
Who mentioned Jordan? Did I mention Jordan?..... You don't think at all, you just go to your talking points and repeat whatever it is your betters tell you.
 

Boca

Governor
Some Democrats and their followers, with no evidence whatsoever, have been saying nuclear codes. That's untrue.

And, no, the only "process" to declassify documents is the process the President decides. There can be but there is no requirement for consultation with anyone on the matter. The President is the boss of the executive branch and the ultimate authority.

There was no planting evidence. There were no nuclear codes. There were documents that can be declassified, however.


Let's start from the beginning...

If the suspect documents found at Mar a Lago were as sensitive as it is being claimed why did it take the DOJ and the National Archives and Records Administration 18 months to take action? Two pregnancies, both stillborn. - And why would President Trump put out a statement demanding that the documents attached to the search warrant be released.

Friday morning, August 12 former President Donald Trump put out a statement demanding that the documents attached to the search warrant be released.

"Not only will I not oppose the release of documents related to the unAmerican, unwarranted, and unnecessary raid and break-in of my home in Palm Beach, Florida, Mar-a-Lago," the statement begins, adding, "I am going a step further by ENCOURAGING the immediate release of those documents."

The delay was to keep their powder dry until the midterms and then further spook the nation with talk of nuclear docs and codes possibly for sale.

[Never mind Hillary Clinton’s State Department approving the transfer of 20% of America’s uranium holdings to Russia, while nine investors in the deal funneled $145 million to the Clinton Foundation.]
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Let's start from the beginning...

If the suspect documents found at Mar a Lago were as sensitive as it is being claimed why did it take the DOJ and the National Archives and Records Administration 18 months to take action? Two pregnancies, both stillborn. - And why would President Trump put out a statement demanding that the documents attached to the search warrant be released.

Friday morning, August 12 former President Donald Trump put out a statement demanding that the documents attached to the search warrant be released.

"Not only will I not oppose the release of documents related to the unAmerican, unwarranted, and unnecessary raid and break-in of my home in Palm Beach, Florida, Mar-a-Lago," the statement begins, adding, "I am going a step further by ENCOURAGING the immediate release of those documents."

The delay was to keep their powder dry until the midterms and then further spook the nation with talk of nuclear docs and codes possibly for sale.

[Never mind Hillary Clinton’s State Department approving the transfer of 20% of America’s uranium holdings to Russia, while nine investors in the deal funneled $145 million to the Clinton Foundation.]
It took 18 months because they didn't know until contacted by a whistle blower...
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Let's start from the beginning...

If the suspect documents found at Mar a Lago were as sensitive as it is being claimed why did it take the DOJ and the National Archives and Records Administration 18 months to take action? Two pregnancies, both stillborn. - And why would President Trump put out a statement demanding that the documents attached to the search warrant be released.

Friday morning, August 12 former President Donald Trump put out a statement demanding that the documents attached to the search warrant be released.

"Not only will I not oppose the release of documents related to the unAmerican, unwarranted, and unnecessary raid and break-in of my home in Palm Beach, Florida, Mar-a-Lago," the statement begins, adding, "I am going a step further by ENCOURAGING the immediate release of those documents."

The delay was to keep their powder dry until the midterms and then further spook the nation with talk of nuclear docs and codes possibly for sale.

[Never mind Hillary Clinton’s State Department approving the transfer of 20% of America’s uranium holdings to Russia, while nine investors in the deal funneled $145 million to the Clinton Foundation.]
By the way...the sale to a Russian company of a uranium mine previously owned by a canadian company did not change the fact that the uranium could not be sold outside the US without permits granted by the government.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
It took 18 months because they didn't know until contacted by a whistle blower...
You seriously saying they Didn't know what was classified as Top Secret for 18 months!

No one is going to believe you had a Higher Clearance than Top Secret after posting you were floating aboard ship off the cost of Vietnam as an enlisted NON-officer MOS Sailor.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
You seriously saying they Didn't know what was classified as Top Secret for 18 months!

No one is going to believe you had a Higher Clearance than Top Secret after posting you were floating aboard ship off the cost of Vietnam as an enlisted NON-officer MOS Sailor.
I was working at FOCCPAC then and was supervisor for the WWMCCS system.
 
FALSE

By the way...the sale to a Russian company of a uranium mine previously owned by a canadian company did not change the fact that the uranium could not be sold outside the US without permits granted by the government.
Now that is funny. One of the most corrupt deals ever, brokered and approved by they most corrupt Presidential Adminstration in history and resulted in a huge windfall for the "Clinton Foundation".......

 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Thank you for playing along.



So you acknowledge there is more then one?....

Now ask yourself if that is the case, how is it the FBI actions are on the up and up?.....
So what do you know of their claims? Not much. Trump hired a lot of incompetent sycophants...seems they are being fired...so?
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
FALSE



Now that is funny. One of the most corrupt deals ever, brokered and approved by they most corrupt Presidential Adminstration in history and resulted in a huge windfall for the "Clinton Foundation".......

Yet No Raid

Report: FBI Uncovers Confirmation of Hillary Clinton's Corrupt Uranium Deal with Russia (breitbart.com)
 
So what do you know of their claims? Not much. Trump hired a lot of incompetent sycophants...seems they are being fired...so?
We know one of them is talking about the Hunter Laptop investigation being labeled Russian disinformation in order to prevent the rest of the agency from investigating it.
Apparently, they wanted a stop to anything that made the candidate they chose for us looking bad... (also explains why they raided a journaist home to retrieve a diary........but hey....Regime wants what the Regime wants I guess..)

As for what the other..... 13(?) are claiming..... only time will tell....

You should hope that they all turn out to be childish bed wetters like Vindman.....

Good luck.
 
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