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What I think is without question as to why religion is losing its grip here in America

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Senator
I haven never given one penny to any church. The God I love is fine with that. I can pray and believe in a higher being without forking over money. Oh….wait a minute I did give Money to one church…..almost 41 years ago on my wedding day. We donated a small sum. For the pastor‘s services.
Good for you!

Do you still hold those same thoughts about the church today?
 

TBLee

Governor
Good for you!

Do you still hold those thoughts about the church today?
I do. The God I love and worship doesn’t require a certain percentage of my paycheck. Now with that being said it doesn’t mean I don’t believe in churches and relIgion. The organization I am a part of relies heavily on the volunteers from a local church who show up daily to help. Giving of their time. It is a blessing..
 

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Senator
I do. The God I love and worship doesn’t require a certain percentage of my paycheck. Now with that being said it doesn’t mean I don’t believe in churches and relIgion. The organization I am a part of relies heavily on the volunteers from a local church who show up daily to help. Giving of their time. It is a blessing..
What about the sexual abuse?

Do you conveniently dismiss that because you're a Christian?

Let's cut to the chase, alright?

Why does religion (Christianity) get a pass on grooming and pedophilia?
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
Okay, let's try this again.

Try to keep up without your right wing obfuscation.

Why would a preteen ask their parents for guidance about their sexuality at that young age?
Do you have any children? I have three. Erik, AJ, and Anna. They are wonderful, beautiful, strong, smart, and ROCK SOLID in their Christian faith. They are all of the best of me and of my wife. They are on fire in their lives - kind, ambitious, driven, and well-adjusted in every way. In short, they are BETTER than I am. Truly, I am blessed - first with my amazing wife and then with these kids.

You ask why they would talk to us about/ ask for guidance about sexuality at a young age. They would/did because I am their father, and my wife is their mother. We have been there for them through all manner of situations - and this particular subject (which the marxist-public-government-worshipping left seems oddly preoccupied to the point of nutcase fettishism) is no different.

Our kids have always approached us about everything. As they should. As I did with my parents. We’re family. I was there to lift each of them to the sky, thanking and praising God when they were born. I’ve been their dad through it all. I’ve been their coach in nearly every sport. I’ve been their navigator, tour guide on vacation, advisor regarding curricula, life choices, all of it.

God blesses parents with children. We parents do our best to be a blessing in return. No “lowest common denominator” argumentation will be entertained here.

So…as usual…I have tolerated your arrogation of my post made. You responded to not a SINGLE point made, and instead demanded that I entertain your non-sequitur. I did so - and I answered you thoroughly. Will write-on reciprocate and respond substantively to MY post that I made? Or…will he continue in his blissful state of self-important, self-indulgent, adolescently entitled spoiled bratism?
 

TBLee

Governor
What about the sexual abuse?

Do you conveniently dismiss that because you're a Christian?

Let's cut to the chase, alright?

Why does religion (Christianity) get a pass on grooming and pedophilia?
WTF I believe in a higher power. That has absolutely nothing to do with sexual abuse. How sad that you feel the need to associate my belief in a higher being with sexual abuse. By the way I have worked with a sexual abuse non profit for years. I am fairly confident I know more about abuse victims than you do. Of course I am open to hearing about your experience dealing with sexual abuse victims.
 

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Senator
Do you have any children? I have three. Erik, AJ, and Anna. They are wonderful, beautiful, strong, smart, and ROCK SOLID in their Christian faith. They are all of the best of me and of my wife. They are on fire in their lives - kind, ambitious, driven, and well-adjusted in every way. In short, they are BETTER than I am. Truly, I am blessed - first with my amazing wife and then with these kids.

You ask why they would talk to us about/ ask for guidance about sexuality at a young age. They would/did because I am their father, and my wife is their mother. We have been there for them through all manner of situations - and this particular subject (which the marxist-public-government-worshipping left seems oddly preoccupied to the point of nutcase fettishism) is no different.

Our kids have always approached us about everything. As they should. As I did with my parents. We’re family. I was there to lift each of them to the sky, thanking and praising God when they were born. I’ve been their dad through it all. I’ve been their coach in nearly every sport. I’ve been their navigator, tour guide on vacation, advisor regarding curricula, life choices, all of it.

God blesses parents with children. We parents do our best to be a blessing in return. No “lowest common denominator” argumentation will be entertained here.

So…as usual…I have tolerated your arrogation of my post made. You responded to not a SINGLE point made, and instead demanded that I entertain your non-sequitur. I did so - and I answered you thoroughly. Will write-on reciprocate and respond substantively to MY post that I made? Or…will he continue in his blissful state of self-important, self-indulgent, adolescently entitled spoiled bratism?
This is America

Your way of life, btw, is perfect for you, but it does determine what is best for us all.

You've lost the meaning of the words of our Forefathers.

If I was religious, I'd pray for you.

:)
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
This is America

You way of life, btw, is perfect for you, but it does determine what is best for us all.

You've lost the meaning of the words of our Forefathers.

If I was religious, I'd pray for you.

:)
Dude.
1) Proof your posts. I can barely tell what you’re trying to say.
2) I didn’t tell you “what is best” for YOU or OTHERS. What I did say is what we, as parents, require and do.
3) You are not only wholly unresponsive to…now TWO consecutive posts. I asked you a question in the very first sentence. NO answer.

So…this is now two posts in which Rick IS directly responsive to write on…and two posts in which you simply could not be bothered to return the common decency.

Frankly, you are awful. I’d suggest you change and improve your posting habit, but you aren’t capable of self-examination or reciprocal ethic. Sincerely, I wish you well. Have a nice evening.
 

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Senator
Dude.
1) Proof your posts. I can barely tell what you’re trying to say.
2) I didn’t tell you “what is best” for YOU or OTHERS. What I did say is what we, as parents, require and do.
3) You are not only wholly unresponsive to…now TWO consecutive posts. I asked you a question in the very first sentence. NO answer.

So…this is now two posts in which Rick IS directly responsive to write on…and two posts in which you simply could not be bothered to return the common decency.

Frankly, you are awful. I’d suggest you change and improve your posting habit, but you aren’t capable of self-examination or reciprocal ethic. Sincerely, I wish you well. Have a nice evening.
You don't need to know what I'm saying. It would take a person that isn't obsessed with oneself.
 

bdtex

Administrator
Staff member
Christian Nationalism

Did R.E.M. write about it in their song 'Losing My Religion'? I think sane Christians should adopt the song.

Anyway,

Too many pastors, preachers, church leaders etc. are preaching their personal politics in the pulpit. That's what is driving people away from churches and religion. They claim it's the living word that drives/keeps people away. That's bullshit. The living word draws people. Politics pushes them away. It's not just churches and religion either. There are all kinds of organizations/institutions that are not supposed to be political that are being destroyed by politics.
 

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Senator
Too many pastors, preachers, church leaders etc. are preaching their personal politics in the pulpit. That's what is driving people away from churches and religion. They claim it's the living word that drives/keeps people away. That's bullshit. The living word draws people. Politics pushes them away. It's not just churches and religion either. There are all kinds of organizations/institutions that are not supposed to be political that are being destroyed by politics.
No doubt about it!

Want to buy some 'Spring Water'?


It's all about capitalism skirting the lines of greed and morality, don't you know?
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
My wife belonged to one such church. The pastor expected money to speak at my wife's funeral after my wife had donated to her church for a couple of decades...I didn't invite her to speak, one of her best friends asked her...I let it go, rather than upset my wife's friends...but she pissed me off when she tried to get me to sit down instead of speaking.

It was all about the money...she was upset with my wife because I wouldn't tithe to her church...even though my wife did.

Growing up we belonged to a catholic church. The diocese decided to split the congregation and build a new one...they assigned us to the new church and sent an invoice to my dad, telling him how much he had to donate to the building fund....Back in those days the faithful did as the church demanded.
i'm no longer much of a church goes..but in general, at least with the churches i've been familiar or frequent for one reason or another...they dont bill or demand a tithe... one joins as a paritioner and give as one is able if one choses to do so. (ukrainian catholic...prety much roman catholic but in Ukrainian...)

any priest or clergy demanding money from me for something like a funeral mass or similar...up front, would be shown the door if in the moment, or declined politely prior. (have done...)
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
i'm no longer much of a church goes..but in general, at least with the churches i've been familiar or frequent for one reason or another...they dont bill or demand a tithe... one joins as a paritioner and give as one is able if one choses to do so. (ukrainian catholic...prety much roman catholic but in Ukrainian...)

any priest or clergy demanding money from me for something like a funeral mass or similar...up front, would be shown the door if in the moment, or declined politely prior. (have done...)
I went to the Catholic church near my house and as I was leaving I was cornered by the priest asking if I was new to the area, if I planned to attend regularly, did I believe in tithing...

I was also recruited by a babe that I had a crush on to go with her to a friday night party...it was a church event and it was all about getting me to join the Mormon church...talk about bait and switch...
 

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Senator
I went to the Catholic church near my house and as I was leaving I was cornered by the priest asking if I was new to the area, if I planned to attend regularly, did I believe in tithing...

I was also recruited by a babe that I had a crush on to go with her to a friday night party...it was a church event and it was all about getting me to join the Mormon church...talk about bait and switch...
I remember when I went to a church preach and munch event when I was very young. I think it wasn't too long after I got baptized (I won't tell a lie) and this girl I had a crush on wore a long bright red velvet (might have been corduroy) dress.

She was hot!

:D
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
I went to the Catholic church near my house and as I was leaving I was cornered by the priest asking if I was new to the area, if I planned to attend regularly, did I believe in tithing...

I was also recruited by a babe that I had a crush on to go with her to a friday night party...it was a church event and it was all about getting me to join the Mormon church...talk about bait and switch...
no offense intended...but that wasnt a church....

hope the babe was fun to hang with at least...
 
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