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6 trillion - fire up the printing presses !!!! WHAT deficit, say the socialist right wing/ GOP

Marcus Aurelius

Governor
Supporting Member
So you feel a $300.00 cell/ cable bill, $60.00 pedicure, a $1700.00 rifle , $65,000 truck, $400,000 3 bedroom 1200 sf house are needed living expenses. Do you not see how people are so dependent on bailouts - they know they will always be there as the politicians love to exchange money for votes - both sides............ wow ............I can't believe I am having a talk about fiscal responsibility with a right winger who feels the opposite...........it will snow in the bahamas today
It's sad you think all conservatives have those things.

Jealous much?
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
and guess who is better off for it?
This guy.

I might buy a house in a couple months from some poor schmuck overpaid for their house, and they will forced to sell to me for pennies on the dollar. That's how capitalism works.
Damn sure not the mortgage holder w/you living there
Yes, it's all about lil' OCF

"might" is what's on a chickens ass
dream on
 
Both the Democrats and Republicans are outrageous spendthrifts. Our politicians are a national curse.
That’s true. My position is that if there is going to be a multi trillion dollar give away at least 50% should be directly given (refunded) to those who pay income and/or payroll taxes. Working Americans. None should go to bank percentage swindlers or tax dodging international corporations. In this case, the remainder should go to supply healthcare facilities with the supplies and equipment needed for this pandemic and to create stockpiles for possible future outbreaks.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
That’s true. My position is that if there is going to be a multi trillion dollar give away at least 50% should be directly given (refunded) to those who pay income and/or payroll taxes. Working Americans. None should go to bank percentage swindlers or tax dodging international corporations. In this case, the remainder should go to supply healthcare facilities with the supplies and equipment needed for this pandemic and to create stockpiles for possible future outbreaks.
They don't think as we do in DC

$7,500,000 to the Smithsonian for additional salaries
$35,000,000 to the JFK Center for performing Arts
$25,000,000 for additional salary House of Representatives
$3,000,000,000 upgrade to the IT department at the VA
$315,000,000 for State Department Diplomatic Programs
$95,000,000 for the Agency of International Development
$300,000,000 for International Disaster Assistance
$300,000,000 for Migrant and Refugee Assistance pg 147
$90,000,000 for the Peace Corp pg 148
$13,000,000 to Howard University pg 121
9,000,000 Misc Senate Expenses pg 134
$100,000,000 to Essential Air carriers pg 162
$40,000,000,000 Responsibility to Workers Pg 164
$1,000,000,000 Airlines Recycle and Save Program pg 163
$25,000,000 to the FAA for administrative costs pg 165
$492,000,000 to National Railroad Corporation 167
$526,000,000 Grants to Amtrak
$25,000,000,000 for Transit Infrastructure pg 169
$3,000,000 Maritime Administration pg 172
$5,000,000 Inspector General pg 172
$2,500,000 Public and Indian Housing pg 175
$5,000,000 Community Planning and Development pg 175
$2,500,000 Office of Housing
$1,500,000,000 Tenant-Based Rental Assistance pg 176
$720,000,000 to the public housing fund pg 177
$100,000,000 For Native Americans pg 183
$250,000,000 for Housing Block Grants for Tribes pg 182
$130,000,000 for AIDS Housing pg 185
$20,000,000 of which goes to one time grantees pg 186
$15,000,000,000 Community Development Fund pg 188
$5,000,000,000 in Homeless Assistance pg 193
$100,000,000,000 for Rental Assistance - pg 198
$7,000,000 enforce the Fair Housing Act - 203
$1,000,000,000 for more Obama phones!
$227,000,000 for grants to States for youth 2 activities pg 80
$261,000,000 for grants to States for dislocated worker
$10,000,000 for Migrant and Seasonal Farm workers
$100,000,000 for ‘‘Job Corps’’,
$15,000,000 for ‘‘Program Administration’’,
$6,500,000, to the ‘‘Wage and Hour Division’’,
$30,000,000, to OSHA
$10,000,000 for Susan Harwood training grants
$1,300,000,000, for ‘‘Primary Health Care’’,
$75,000,000, for ‘‘Student Aid Administration’’,
$9,500,000,000, for ‘‘Higher Education’’,






 

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RickWA

Senator
That’s true. My position is that if there is going to be a multi trillion dollar give away at least 50% should be directly given (refunded) to those who pay income and/or payroll taxes. Working Americans. None should go to bank percentage swindlers or tax dodging international corporations. In this case, the remainder should go to supply healthcare facilities with the supplies and equipment needed for this pandemic and to create stockpiles for possible future outbreaks.
Works for me - and there needs to be offsetting cuts...or some commitment to making offsetting cuts (if this is such an emergency that they need to rush it out there). There should be a provision in THIS bill that mandates cuts.
I am so bloody tired of these guys operating by different rules and standards than normal people.
 

worldlymrb

America: Love it or Leave it!
How about they just the bear the consequences of their own financial decisions? if that means they go bankrupt or starve so be it.
Winner!

No Bailouts for Corps/LLCs/Sole Proprietorships. Companies and banks go broke... LIQUIDATE! AND THAT MEANS YOU@PRIVATE FEDERAL RESERVE!

State issued currency as well as U.S Treasury Notes will be issued in lew of Federal Reserve Notes and will be delivered to newly chartered banks regulated by the STATES!

Give every citizen the equivalent of $10k in today's purchasing power deposited in any of the newly chartered state banks.

Close Wall Street and arrest everyone in management at the SEC. Allow commodities/stocks to be sold on any state-approved exchange.

Repeal every U.S Federal Law unless reauthorized by a 2/3 majority in the house and senate. Every New Law must be reauthorized every 10 years.
 
Winner!

No Bailouts for Corps/LLCs/Sole Proprietorships. Companies and banks go broke... LIQUIDATE! AND THAT MEANS YOU@PRIVATE FEDERAL RESERVE!

State issued currency as well as U.S Treasury Notes will be issued in lew of Federal Reserve Notes and will be delivered to newly chartered banks regulated by the STATES!

Give every citizen the equivalent of $10k in today's purchasing power deposited in any of the newly chartered state banks.

Close Wall Street and arrest everyone in management at the SEC. Allow commodities/stocks to be sold on any state-approved exchange.

Repeal every U.S Federal Law unless reauthorized by a 2/3 majority in the house and senate. Every New Law must be reauthorized every 10 years.
Nope, nobody should get any free money. Not corporations, not individuals.
 

worldlymrb

America: Love it or Leave it!
Nope, nobody should get any free money. Not corporations, not individuals.
Citizens won't be getting free money, just some of the money stolen from them returned. I don't mind giving the people a headstart in any reorganization out of this corrupt fascist crony-capitalist/socialist system we are already in.
 
Citizens won't be getting free money, just some of the money stolen from them returned. I don't mind giving the people a headstart in any reorganization out of this corrupt fascist crony-capitalist/socialist system we are already in.
Nobody is owed anything. If fact everybody in the entire country owes for the national debt.
 

Marcus Aurelius

Governor
Supporting Member
Yes, let's bail out the cruise lines, they are so vital to our well being, after all they pay ZERO taxes and aren't even based here in the US..................................................................
So, do you support giving stimulus money to ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS? They pay no taxes and are not based in the US......

Of course, that's just different and shit,. right?
 

worldlymrb

America: Love it or Leave it!
Nobody is owed anything. If fact everybody in the entire country owes for the national debt.
Do you want to work at slave wages to pay off government debt based on fraud because that is the only way interest on this debt gets paid?

I myself prefer arresting the money changers at the FRB, void the U.S debt as fraud and issue a new currency and banking system
 
They don't think as we do in DC

$7,500,000 to the Smithsonian for additional salaries
$35,000,000 to the JFK Center for performing Arts
$25,000,000 for additional salary House of Representatives
$3,000,000,000 upgrade to the IT department at the VA
$315,000,000 for State Department Diplomatic Programs
$95,000,000 for the Agency of International Development
$300,000,000 for International Disaster Assistance
$300,000,000 for Migrant and Refugee Assistance pg 147
$90,000,000 for the Peace Corp pg 148
$13,000,000 to Howard University pg 121
9,000,000 Misc Senate Expenses pg 134
$100,000,000 to Essential Air carriers pg 162
$40,000,000,000 Responsibility to Workers Pg 164
$1,000,000,000 Airlines Recycle and Save Program pg 163
$25,000,000 to the FAA for administrative costs pg 165
$492,000,000 to National Railroad Corporation 167
$526,000,000 Grants to Amtrak
$25,000,000,000 for Transit Infrastructure pg 169
$3,000,000 Maritime Administration pg 172
$5,000,000 Inspector General pg 172
$2,500,000 Public and Indian Housing pg 175
$5,000,000 Community Planning and Development pg 175
$2,500,000 Office of Housing
$1,500,000,000 Tenant-Based Rental Assistance pg 176
$720,000,000 to the public housing fund pg 177
$100,000,000 For Native Americans pg 183
$250,000,000 for Housing Block Grants for Tribes pg 182
$130,000,000 for AIDS Housing pg 185
$20,000,000 of which goes to one time grantees pg 186
$15,000,000,000 Community Development Fund pg 188
$5,000,000,000 in Homeless Assistance pg 193
$100,000,000,000 for Rental Assistance - pg 198
$7,000,000 enforce the Fair Housing Act - 203
$1,000,000,000 for more Obama phones!
$227,000,000 for grants to States for youth 2 activities pg 80
$261,000,000 for grants to States for dislocated worker
$10,000,000 for Migrant and Seasonal Farm workers
$100,000,000 for ‘‘Job Corps’’,
$15,000,000 for ‘‘Program Administration’’,
$6,500,000, to the ‘‘Wage and Hour Division’’,
$30,000,000, to OSHA
$10,000,000 for Susan Harwood training grants
$1,300,000,000, for ‘‘Primary Health Care’’,
$75,000,000, for ‘‘Student Aid Administration’’,
$9,500,000,000, for ‘‘Higher Education’’,
There is a lot of worthwhile stuff there.
 
Do you want to work at slave wages to pay off government debt based on fraud because that is the only way interest on this debt gets paid?

I myself prefer arresting the money changers at the FRB, void the U.S debt as fraud and issue a new currency and banking system
Exactly, these trillions are nothing more than zeros on a computer screen. Who are these mysterious entities who we supposedly owe these 100s of trillions to and where the hell did they get it to loan in the first place. I say abolish the Federal Reserve and the IRS and let the US Treasury create debt free money. Our economy should be based on production instead of being based on debt. Our current monetary system is nothing more than an endless percentage swindle.
 
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