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A comparison of the Biden and Trump documents issues…

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Exactly. Now it's time to gear up for the next Presidential cycle and they are doing this to remove Biden from contention. As soon as he started making noise about "running again" his "aides" started looking for something they could use against him. Surprise! He had "classified docs" (like ever former POTUS) and his fate was sealed.

Anyone who thinks this would have come out if Biden factored into the DNC's plans for 2024, they simply do not understand (or refuse to see) how politics is played.
Who is "They"? Did the lawyers searching Biden's office actually report to the DNC?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
LOL! Sure he did, because just after saying he was considering a run for re-election in 2024, the first thing he would do is expose his "irresponsibility" wrt classified materials.
What? He stated he was considering running in 2024 some time ago...not just before the search of his office.

I am surprised he still had the office. Might have been nearing the end of the lease. In any case, it is a leap to think the 2024 election was related.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Yet another painstakingly dutiful call to shirk citizen critical thinking, civic stewardship, and accountability.

…in favor of Democrat politicians.

No, I’m sorry. Decent people will not abide such appeals to suspension and preemption of consistent application of standards. You extremist partisan radicals will, of course, continue down the path of 24x7 hackery. The decent will not. I suspect that if we were to survey the landscape, we’d find many, many instances of presidents, vice presidents, secretaries of state, etc. who have/possessed legacy documents that they should not. Whether or not Trump is/was a raging jackass about his instance - whether or not Trump lied or concealed, or tried to argue that such documents were rightfully his…this is all irrelevant noise in the matter of the security, proper storage, and rightful possession of such documents. Whether we like or dislike the guy mishandling or being negligent with such documents is irrelevant. Every noise-making attempt at dilution, mitigation, or extenuating circumstance…every claim of downstream cooperation or communication…all irrelevant to the facts of security, proper storage, and rightful possession of such documents. As we are bombarded with wave after wave of excuse-making, parsing, and apologetics, the good citizen must maintain acute focus on the facts of, in Trump’s case, presidential…and in Biden’s case, vice presidential CONDUCT, ACTIONS, EXECUTION TO LEGAL REQUIREMENTS as well as the laws governing each. Whether the Presidential Records Act (in Trump’s case)…or other laws in Biden’s.

We must specifically tune out the constant nonsense and intentional issue-blurring campaigns waged by partisan hack stooges and sycophant propagandists.

Thank you for the reminders. Again. And again.
Nary a word about the article. Just your usual idiotic noise. There are no words to convey how excruciatingly boring you are. People must run away when they see you coming.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
How would he have taken action before anyone knew they were missing?
Wouldn't it work the same way as you described in other circumstances? The archives would review and noticed stocks are missing?

The Archives discovered missing documents based on an inventory of docs. The first visit, in January 2022, returned some documents. The NRA reviewed Trump documents and delivered a subpoena in May. Evidence shows Trump then tried to hide documents to avoid returning them and responded to the subpoena that all documents had been returned.
Trump ordered records moved after subpoena, Mar-a-Lago staffer said – reports

 

Bugsy McGurk

President
It will be interesting to see if criminal charges are filed against Trump.
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I’ve spent days trying to convey that point. Wingers just aren’t interested. Their only interest is to run interference for Trump after he stole a slew of documents, classified and otherwise, and then spent many months lying about it and trying to obstruct the recovery of the documents. Enabling Trump’s crimes is far more important to them than our laws and national security.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
The AG would never have known unless Biden's attorney contacted him about finding the documents. Remember that the lawyers were bound by confidentiality. Joe must have instructed them to contact the DOJ.
No inventory for missing docs all these years?
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
Exactly. Now it's time to gear up for the next Presidential cycle and they are doing this to remove Biden from contention. As soon as he started making noise about "running again" his "aides" started looking for something they could use against him. Surprise! He had "classified docs" (like ever former POTUS) and his fate was sealed.

Anyone who thinks this would have come out if Biden factored into the DNC's plans for 2024, they simply do not understand (or refuse to see) how politics is played.
This is correct.
 

JohnJohnson

Council Member
An informed comparison, including application of the pertinent statutes. An interesting read for honest people…

The opinion of Norman Eisen? The same guy that was general counsel for House Judiciary Democrats?

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protectionist

Governor
The opinion of Norman Eisen? The same guy that was general counsel for House Judiciary Democrats?

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Exactly right, and what does this jerk Eisen say ? He says that trump had "obstructive conduct". The stupid fool doesn't even know if Trump ever knew of the documents being at Mar-a Lago, and he has no way of showing that.

And how can Eisen claim there was no "no pattern of obstruction that we know of at the moment — there is no evidence of that at all." ? he said. Were not these documents in Biden's possession for 7 years, with no reporting that to anyone ? Is this not a whole 7 years of "obstruction" ?

Eisen then says > " Biden’s team appears to have raced to turn in the documents when they found them," but 2 months went by, with no turning in all the documents.

The notion that the FBI may have planted documents in Mar-a-Lago, is still viable, and how could anybody prove that didn't happen ?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Exactly right, and what does this jerk Eisen say ? He says that trump had "obstructive conduct". The stupid fool doesn't even know if Trump ever knew of the documents being at Mar-a Lago, and he has no way of showing that.

And how can Eisen claim there was no "no pattern of obstruction that we know of at the moment — there is no evidence of that at all." ? he said. Were not these documents in Biden's possession for 7 years, with no reporting that to anyone ? Is this not a whole 7 years of "obstruction" ?

Eisen then says > " Biden’s team appears to have raced to turn in the documents when they found them," but 2 months went by, with no turning in all the documents.

The notion that the FBI may have planted documents in Mar-a-Lago, is still viable, and how could anybody prove that didn't happen ?
Too funny...the raid was on video.
 
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