A poster wants a rule change

[PhilFish]

@bdtex

Seems there is a desire to go back to policing threadjacking and deliberate tangents by posters. This despite all the whining in the past that there was too much policing.

Couple whiny types don't like it, though demonstrably they themselves are among the top offenders.

What do you think?

 

[sensible don]

go ahead, you get my vote - but be sure to take down both side - amiright?

 

[PhilFish]

go ahead, you get my vote - but be sure to take down both side - amiright?

Oh. That's a +1..

Next?

 

[PhilFish]

go ahead, you get my vote - but be sure to take down both side - amiright?

Hey so did you want to flesh it out a little bit? So you want each and every instance where a poster enters a thread and offers a contrast to another individual, or a prior administration, or a former president, or a different party you want all of those deleted?


Just to note that would likely be the majority of the site.

 

[PhilFish]

go ahead, you get my vote - but be sure to take down both side - amiright?

So here's an example. Poster makes a thread and says so and so president was such a [Unwelcome language removed] up there hasn't been a [Unwelcome language removed] up like him ever. Then other posters enter and say oh yeah well so and so president in his also a [Unwelcome language removed] up and here's how.

What do you think fella? That's a hell of a lot of post. I mean on a political board that's pretty much the entirety of all the posts. Let me know your thoughts

 

[middleview]

So here's an example. Poster makes a thread and says so and so president was such a [Unwelcome language removed] up there hasn't been a [Unwelcome language removed] up like him ever. Then other posters enter and say oh yeah well so and so president in his also a [Unwelcome language removed] up and here's how.

What do you think fella? That's a hell of a lot of post. I mean on a political board that's pretty much the entirety of all the posts. Let me know your thoughts

I agree with you....
Clearly judging the relevance of one post to the top post is subjective...When someone posts criticism of one president for a policy or action and the response is to point out that it was ok when another president did exactly that...I think it is on topic.

 

[bdtex]

Couple whiny types don't like it, though demonstrably they themselves are among the top offenders.

That's why I wouldn't be in favor of it. Posters can step over the steaming piles. They don't have to take the bait.

 

[bdtex]

Hey so did you want to flesh it out a little bit? So you want each and every instance where a poster enters a thread and offers a contrast to another individual, or a prior administration, or a former president, or a different party you want all of those deleted?


Just to note that would likely be the majority of the site.

Yep. Lots of deletions.

 

[PhilFish]

That's why I wouldn't be in favor of it. Posters can step over the steaming piles. They don't have to take the bait.

Exactly. Thanks. I agree

 

[PhilFish]

I agree with you....
Clearly judging the relevance of one post to the top post is subjective...When someone posts criticism of one president for a policy or action and the response is to point out that it was ok when another president did exactly that...I think it is on topic.

Agree. Thanks

 

[PhilFish]

Yep. Lots of deletions.

I think that's why we stopped it to begin with. So many deletions so much complaining of over moderation and censorship. Sigh

 

[bdtex]

I think that's why we stopped it to begin with. So many deletions so much complaining of over moderation and censorship. Sigh

And so many complainers were/are serial offenders themselves.

 

[PhilFish]

And so many complainers were/are serial offenders themselves.

Sigh. Yes. But the who moi routine still occurs

 

[EatTheRich]

Agreed. Things like persistent personal abuse of posters, dick pics, malware/phishing links, and doxxing are appropriate for moderator action. Rhetorical strategies for diverting the conversation while staying on the topic of politics are too subjective and if people don't like them they can always use the ignore feature.

 

[write on]

@bdtex

Seems there is a desire to go back to policing threadjacking and deliberate tangents by posters. This despite all the whining in the past that there was too much policing.

Couple whiny types don't like it, though demonstrably they themselves are among the top offenders.

What do you think?

Don't tighten the noose too much.

 

[write on]

I commend you, Phil.

Hard questions need to be asked.

 

[PhilFish]

I commend you, Phil.

Hard questions need to be asked.

It's an interesting dilemma as the poster complaining, threadjacking it's like his thing..

 

[PhilFish]

Agreed. Things like persistent personal abuse of posters, dick pics, malware/phishing links, and doxxing are appropriate for moderator action. Rhetorical strategies for diverting the conversation while staying on the topic of politics are too subjective and if people don't like them they can always use the ignore feature.

Much appreciated.

 

[write on]

It's an interesting dilemma as the poster complaining, threadjacking it's like his thing..

Too much moderation could end the popularity of any said site.

It's a fine line to walk.

 

[PhilFish]

Too much moderation could end the popularity of any said site.

It's a fine line to walk.

That's precisely the thing. When BD and I moderated, shall we say more intensely, many whined and fled. Then we had a vote and those that remained a majority said cut it back. And here we are

Though by and large I think that those that are the perennial complainers manipulate the whole as a hobby. So be it