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America Has Been At War 93% of the Time – 222 Out of 239 Years – Since 1776

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Donald Trump was one of the few who opposed it from the beginning. He was saying precisely what you are saying now. I happen to disagree with him. Hussein was destabilizing the region all on his own. He was threatening his neighbors. And he was using chemical weapons, not only on Iran soldiers but his own people. It was only a matter of time before he sent those chemical weapons to our shores and another 9-11 take place.



The surge fixed the problem. Iraq was calm. Our soldiers were, on paper, scheduled to leave. When Bush left office, the Middle East was stable. Libya was stable. Syria was stable. Iraq was stable. People weren't being beheaded.


Donald Trump is perhaps the FIRST American president in history intelligent enough to think past that. He's a businessman. He built a ten billion dollar empire. He is the landlord of the largest bank in the world. I think the guy knows how to plan ahead, how to think past an event.

He's going to destroy ISIS, get Saudia Arabia to start reimbursing this country for our military protection, get South Korea to reimburse us for protection against North Korea. He's going to make those countries build a safe zone in that region (not our country) for the refugees.

Think he can't? THIS IS WHAT HE DOES BEST.

Trump's most idiotic critics all bring up the four bankruptcies he brokered in order to save companies. This man made BILLIONS by negotiating a reduction in paying back money. Now he is the president and America is going to be negotiating for a little help on OUR military bills.

Just like Mexico is going to pay for that wall, the rest of the world is going to kick in a little help, monetarily if they want the United States to continue to keep the world stable.

Compare that to the KENYAN SHOESHINE BOY, who destabilized much of the world and doubled our national debt.



Actually, there is a reformation and marshall plan in the Middle East. It has been going on since the Forties. It's called ISRAEL, the ONLY stable country and our ONLY ally.

Trump has a good heart, but frankly most of the Middle East is populated by a bunch of raghead animals still living in the sixteenth century. And the best way to fix their attitude is to pump up America's domestic oil and take away a lot of those millions of petro dollars ISIS is using against us now.

You don't talk reformation to animals. You put them down. PERIOD.
Trump opens his mouth and toys fall out....His bankruptcies would not have been needed if he had not made such yuuuuge mistakes in using junk bonds to finance or in overspending on the projects. His bankruptcies cheated others out of money he owed them.

Donald Trump did not oppose the invasion of Iraq from the beginning....Nice try. While his comment was lukewarm....he did say "yeah, I guess so" when asked if he supported the invasion.

The surge did not fix the problems. The suggestion is silly. The surge put troops into Baghdad. What helped was called the Anbar awakening. We paid Sunni tribes to supply fighters. Those militias cut into the number of fighters Al Qaeda in Iraq could recruit. When Maliki went back on his word and refused to merge the Sunni militias into the Iraqi Army....they became part of ISIS when it returned in force from Syria.

Trump knows real estate....he doesn't know shit about much else.
 

middleview

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Bullshit. FDR could have revealed this to the world and Pearl Harbor never would have happened. That son of a bitch has the blood of innocent men, women and children on his hands. And he got America into the bloodiest quagmire in history. Sixty MILLION killed in that war.
The accusation that FDR and others in the military or the White House knew about the impending Japanese attack is idiotic. FDR did not need a surprise attack to justify a war....he could have ordered an ambush of the Japanese fleet, destroyed their carriers and been the most powerful Navy in the Pacific from the start....The victory over the intended surprise attack would not have diminished American anger or will to destroy the Japanese.

Stinnet's book is easily demolished....
 

reason10

Governor
The accusation that FDR and others in the military or the White House knew about the impending Japanese attack is idiotic. FDR did not need a surprise attack to justify a war....he could have ordered an ambush of the Japanese fleet, destroyed their carriers and been the most powerful Navy in the Pacific from the start....The victory over the intended surprise attack would not have diminished American anger or will to destroy the Japanese.

Stinnet's book is easily demolished....
It isn't the only source. FDR was a mass murderer.
 

reason10

Governor
Trump opens his mouth and toys fall out....His bankruptcies would not have been needed if he had not made such yuuuuge mistakes in using junk bonds to finance or in overspending on the projects. His bankruptcies cheated others out of money he owed them.
I don't discuss this with you because you do not have the education to get it. Bottom line, Trump saved jobs and companies, something Obama has done the exact OPPOSITE of.

Donald Trump did not oppose the invasion of Iraq from the beginning....Nice try. While his comment was lukewarm....he did say "yeah, I guess so" when asked if he supported the invasion.
That's a [Unwelcome language removed] LIE. He opposed it.

The surge did not fix the problems. The suggestion is silly.
Nope. It's accurate and only a [Unwelcome language removed] moron thinks otherwise.


The surge put troops into Baghdad.
They were already there.

YOU LIBERALS JUST CAN'T STAND THE IDEA THAT THE SURGE WORKED LIKE A CHARM. AND THAT INCOMPETENT SACK OF SHIT OBAMA TOOK A STABLE SITUATION, FUCKED IT UP AND BLAMED BUSH.
 

middleview

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I don't discuss this with you because you do not have the education to get it. Bottom line, Trump saved jobs and companies, something Obama has done the exact OPPOSITE of.



That's a [Unwelcome language removed] LIE. He opposed it.



Nope. It's accurate and only a [Unwelcome language removed] moron thinks otherwise.




They were already there.

YOU LIBERALS JUST CAN'T STAND THE IDEA THAT THE SURGE WORKED LIKE A CHARM. AND THAT INCOMPETENT SACK OF SHIT OBAMA TOOK A STABLE SITUATION, FUCKED IT UP AND BLAMED BUSH.
You don't discuss...you pontificate.

You forget that Bin Laden was alive because Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld refused to send reinforcements to the Delta team when requested....Obama gave the order to kill him.
Obama = 1

GM and Chrysler were on the verge of bankruptcy....and not Chapter 11. We are talking about a million jobs gone.
Obama = 2

20 million people got health insurance because of the Affordable Care Act.
Obama = 3

The DJIA was at about 6,000...now it is at 20,000
Obama = 4

We were losing 750,000 jobs per month in 2008 and the GDP dropped 8%. Now we are creating 130,000 jobs per month and the GDP is growing by about 2% per year.
Obama = 5

Bush thought Saddam had WMDs and got 4,500 American soldiers killed to find them...he was wrong..There were none. Obama thought Assad had WMDs...he threatened Assad...now the WMDs have been destroyed.
Obama = 6

If the situation in Iraq was so stable, where did ISIS get 30,000 fighters to fight in Syria and Iraq? Has it occurred to you that Al Qaeda in Iraq saw that Bush had signed an agreement to withdraw all US troops by the end of 2011 and just decided to lay low?

Iraq was stable until Bush invaded....He disbanded the Iraqi army, which created Al Qaeda in Iraq and later ISIS.
 

middleview

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It isn't the only source. FDR was a mass murderer.
Wait....what? You think FDR was a murderer because he allowed the Japanese to attack the US?

What an amazing thing to say. In the first place...it wasn't FDR who persuaded Hitler to invade Poland, Norway, Belgium, Denmark , France, Greece, Hungary, Yugoslavia and murder millions of Jews. FDR also didn't seem to have anything to do with Japan murdering millions of Chinese, Koreans or Filipinos.

You truly are off the rails.

Your sources are easily shot down....you got nuthin....
 

middleview

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Bullshit. FDR could have revealed this to the world and Pearl Harbor never would have happened. That son of a bitch has the blood of innocent men, women and children on his hands. And he got America into the bloodiest quagmire in history. Sixty MILLION killed in that war.
Again...FDR didn't know.

FDR didn't start WWII...actually it started with the Japanese invasion of China and the Italian military actions in Ethiopia...

Are you thinking fewer people would have died if only Hitler had forced Britain to surrender?
 

reason10

Governor
Wait....what? You think FDR was a murderer because he allowed the Japanese to attack the US?
Pretty much.

What an amazing thing to say. In the first place...it wasn't FDR who persuaded Hitler to invade Poland, Norway, Belgium, Denmark , France, Greece, Hungary, Yugoslavia and murder millions of Jews. FDR also didn't seem to have anything to do with Japan murdering millions of Chinese, Koreans or Filipinos.
And Germany had not attacked America, did not possess weapons of mass destruction and was not harboring Al Qaeda. (All the excuses you liberals gave for keeping Saddam Hussein alive.)

FDR was a shitty president. Fucked our economy and caused MILLIONS of our soldiers to die because his fucked up economic polices fucked our country.

George W. Bush saved the world from the Hitler of the 21st Century, making a better president than FDR. (No surprise there)

And only a [Unwelcome language removed] IDIOT thinks otherwise.
 

reason10

Governor
Again...FDR didn't know
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I already proved he did.
FDR didn't start WWII...actually it started with the Japanese invasion of China and the Italian military actions in Ethiopia...
And President George W. Bush didn't start the War On Terror. He inherited it from that [Unwelcome language removed] idiot Clinton. And he did the right thing. And he left a stable Middle East. And that [Unwelcome language removed] idiot OBAMA squandered that stability.
Are you thinking fewer people would have died if only Hitler had forced Britain to surrender?
I'm just using liberal illogic. You idiots claim that Hussein was not a threat to America. Hitler wasn't, either. And because both Hoover and FDR were [Unwelcome language removed] IDIOTS, they let Hitler rise to power and had to expend MILLIONS of American soldiers' lives and blood to stop him. In the process, FDR gave a BIGGER mass murderer named Josef Stalin control of Eastern Europe.

Democrat presidents usually mean bad news for the economy, for our soldiers and for the safety of America. The ONLY exception was the tax cutting commie killing JFK.

George W. Bush was smarter than FDR. He saved the world from the Hitler of the 21st Century.

And the DUMBEST MOTHERFUCKING PRESIDENT IN HISTORY, THE KENYAN SHOESHINE BOY, took a stable Middle East, GAVE IT TO [Unwelcome language removed] ISIS and opened a [Unwelcome language removed] can of worms that is going to take a long time to fix.

NEVER elect a [Unwelcome language removed] DEMOCRAT to the presidency. Doing so is TREASON.
 

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I already proved he did.


And President George W. Bush didn't start the War On Terror. He inherited it from that [Unwelcome language removed] idiot Clinton. And he did the right thing. And he left a stable Middle East. And that [Unwelcome language removed] idiot OBAMA squandered that stability.


I'm just using liberal illogic. You idiots claim that Hussein was not a threat to America. Hitler wasn't, either. And because both Hoover and FDR were [Unwelcome language removed] IDIOTS, they let Hitler rise to power and had to expend MILLIONS of American soldiers' lives and blood to stop him. In the process, FDR gave a BIGGER mass murderer named Josef Stalin control of Eastern Europe.

Democrat presidents usually mean bad news for the economy, for our soldiers and for the safety of America. The ONLY exception was the tax cutting commie killing JFK.

George W. Bush was smarter than FDR. He saved the world from the Hitler of the 21st Century.

And the DUMBEST MOTHERFUCKING PRESIDENT IN HISTORY, THE KENYAN SHOESHINE BOY, took a stable Middle East, GAVE IT TO [Unwelcome language removed] ISIS and opened a [Unwelcome language removed] can of worms that is going to take a long time to fix.

NEVER elect a [Unwelcome language removed] DEMOCRAT to the presidency. Doing so is TREASON.
Another fact free post from you....

1. Check your information. Where did you hear that the US lost MILLIONS OF SOLDIERS LIVES in WWII? You just make shit up as you go.

2. I proved that your source for saying FDR knew was wrong. You didn't read the article I linked to....You never read anything that is contrary to your opinion.

3. Hitler declared war on the US....Should FDR have ignored him? Seem you prefer Nazis controlling all of Europe to Stalin controlling half of it....Do I have that right? In 1941 Hitler controlled about half of Russian, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Hungary, The Baltics,Romania, Greece, Yugoslavia, Norway, Denmark, Belgium, Austria, the Netherlands and France....

4. Our economy was a disaster in 2008....when that brilliant republican "W" left office. We were losing 750,000 jobs per month...the foreclosure rate had tripled from 2003 to 2006. The djia dropped to 6,000. GM and Chrysler were about to go under....Yeah, tell me about how wonderful republicans are for the economy....

5. The middle east was stable? In your dreams. Al Qaeda in Iraq still existed. They simply moved into Syria. The war in Syria didn't start because of Obama. It started because Assad is a dictator and his own people were sick of him. The same reason Libya broke out in violence....not because of anything Obama did.

FACT: The middle east was fairly stable until Bush invaded Iraq...and Saddam was nowhere near being another Hitler.
 

reason10

Governor
1. Check your information. Where did you hear that the US lost MILLIONS OF SOLDIERS LIVES in WWII? You just make shit up as you go.
Total loss of life in FDR's quagmire. SIXTY MILLION.


2. I proved that your source for saying FDR knew was wrong. You didn't read the article I linked to....You never read anything that is contrary to your opinion.
Mostly because your articles are left wing biased and full of shit. And they all say the same thing.

3. Hitler declared war on the US....Should FDR have ignored him? Seem you prefer Nazis controlling all of Europe to Stalin controlling half of it....Do I have that right? In 1941 Hitler controlled about half of Russian, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Hungary, The Baltics,Romania, Greece, Yugoslavia, Norway, Denmark, Belgium, Austria, the Netherlands and France....

Again, using the retarded illogic you liberals used on Bush, Hitler never laid a hand on the US, never attacked us and didn't have weapons of mass destruction. Just like Saddam Hussein didn't.

4. Our economy was a disaster in 2008....when that brilliant republican "W" left office. We were losing 750,000 jobs per month...the foreclosure rate had tripled from 2003 to 2006. The djia dropped to 6,000. GM and Chrysler were about to go under....Yeah, tell me about how wonderful republicans are for the economy....
OUR [Unwelcome language removed] ECONOMY IS A GODDAM DISASTER TODAY, WORST IN HISTORY. THE END OF THE BUSH ERA WAS REAGAN PROSPERITY COMPARED TO THE CLUSTERFUCK WE'RE IN NOW.

5. The middle east was stable? In your dreams. Al Qaeda in Iraq still existed. They simply moved into Syria. The war in Syria didn't start because of Obama. It started because Assad is a dictator and his own people were sick of him. The same reason Libya broke out in violence....not because of anything Obama did.
When Bush left office, there was NO ISIS, NO war in Syria, NO attacks on our embassies in the region, and no refugees were flooding Europe. That's stable. The KENYAN SHOESHINE BOY and that [Unwelcome language removed] bitch Hitlary turned the Middle East into the worst cauldron of violence in history. They CREATED ISIS.

FACT: The middle east was fairly stable until Bush invaded Iraq...and Saddam was nowhere near being another Hitler.
BULL [Unwelcome language removed] SHIT.

The only reason Saddam wasn't another Hitler is because we had a smarter president than FDR. Bush solved the "Hitler" problem before it would reach outside of Iraq. The Middle East was paradise in 2008. Today it is HELL, thanks to the bitch and the shoeshine boy.
 

middleview

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Total loss of life in FDR's quagmire. SIXTY MILLION.

Mostly because your articles are left wing biased and full of shit. And they all say the same thing.

Again, using the retarded illogic you liberals used on Bush, Hitler never laid a hand on the US, never attacked us and didn't have weapons of mass destruction. Just like Saddam Hussein didn't.

OUR [Unwelcome language removed] ECONOMY IS A GODDAM DISASTER TODAY, WORST IN HISTORY. THE END OF THE BUSH ERA WAS REAGAN PROSPERITY COMPARED TO THE CLUSTERFUCK WE'RE IN NOW.

When Bush left office, there was NO ISIS, NO war in Syria, NO attacks on our embassies in the region, and no refugees were flooding Europe. That's stable. The KENYAN SHOESHINE BOY and that [Unwelcome language removed] bitch Hitlary turned the Middle East into the worst cauldron of violence in history. They CREATED ISIS.

BULL [Unwelcome language removed] SHIT.

The only reason Saddam wasn't another Hitler is because we had a smarter president than FDR. Bush solved the "Hitler" problem before it would reach outside of Iraq. The Middle East was paradise in 2008. Today it is HELL, thanks to the bitch and the shoeshine boy.
Another FACT FREE POST from you....

You said the US lost millions of our soldiers in WWII. You are either simply too lame to look it up or are intentionally dishonest...which is it?

WWII did not start because of anything FDR did. Hitler took power in Germany in 1933...the same year FDR did in the US. Mussolini was in control of Italy after 1922...and Hirohito and Tojo started the war in Asia in 1931. It was the fascist dictators who started the war and cost the world 60 million lives. Blaming FDR is idiotic.

There were 314 US casualties in Iraq in 2008.


Some paradise. How many US casualties have there been since 2014 when we started helping Iraq fight against ISIS? Is it 5?

ISIS was called Al Qaeda in Iraq in 2008. Al Qaeda in Iraq didn't exist in 2002...before our invasion.

There were 13 attacks on our embassies or consulates while Bush was president.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/may/12/john-garamendi/prior-benghazi-were-there-13-attacks-embassies-and/

You are incredibly uninformed...
 
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