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An example of systemic racism

EatTheRich

President
We aren't a socialist country. The kind of system you propose would do exactly what you're claiming is happening. The vast majority of people are middle class. We have sustained an 11% poverty rate for over a half century, which only went up appreciably under Obama.

So saying that the vast majority is poor is just a straight out lie.
I wasn’t referring to an official poverty rate. The middle classes aren’t even a bare majority in the U.S., much less “the vast majority” worldwide.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
We aren't a socialist country. The kind of system you propose would do exactly what you're claiming is happening. The vast majority of people are middle class. We have sustained an 11% poverty rate for over a half century, which only went up appreciably under Obama.

So saying that the vast majority is poor is just a straight out lie.
How odd...so the poverty rate went up under Obama and that had nothing at all to do with the Bush recession which began in the summer of 2007 and finally turned around in early 2010....is that what you think?

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middleview

President
Supporting Member
Any idiot can doctor a photo.

And since you mentioned the little romp at the Capitol on Jan 6

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ANTIFA is YOUR side of the aisle.
1. Known Antifa member? Just how is it you know he is a member? Do you have access to the membership list?

2. I'm not sure where the picture of Sullivan with a Trump hat came from...but doesn't seem to have originated from the DC riot.

The founder of Black Lives Matter Utah, Lex Scott, responded to a Fox News report calling Sullivan “a BLM activist” with a TikTok statement in which she said he “never has been and never will be” a member of the group and called him “a thorn in our side.”


Two days after the attack on the Capitol, Sullivan confirmed that in a live video stream of his own, saying, “I’m not with BLM the organization. Do I believe personally Black lives matter? I believe Black lives matter. They matter, right? That’s simple, but I don’t believe in the organization, right, I’m not a part of it.” He also added, “I’m not antifa,” before concluding: “It’s pretty simple, you don’t call Black Panthers Martin Luther King.”

In the Gatewaypundit video you can see that Sullivan is nowhere near the front of the mob going into the capitol.

 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
An average of 13%, around 2 points off from what I had heard, but it doesn't in the least negate anything I said, ankle-biter.
You say the increase happened under Obama when clearly the majority happened during the end of the Bush administration and continued in the first months of Obama's...but blaming Obama ignores the fact that a new president needs time to push any legislation thru congress and get it implemented. How much worse would it have been if Obama had let GM and Chrylser fail? Another million people on unemployment and food stamps.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
First of all, Democrat Underground? Seriously? (You REALLY want people to think you're stupid, huh?)

Second, any idiot can make a meme, and those Nazis at DU have yet to provide any documentation whatsoever.

Let's say this is even CLOSE to accurate. Is DemoNazi Underground claiming that blacks in Minneapolis are too stupid and lazy to maintain their car equipment and that's why their tail lights don't come on at night?

Tell us again the institutionalized method of police officers determining the RACE of the driver of a vehicle AT NIGHT, especially in unlit areas.

As usual, you have posted a ridiculous LIE.

And you wonder why everybody says liberals are such idiots.
We are dealing with Julie. You expected the original post to be something other than fabricated statistics from an alt-left propaganda sites? And that doesn't even include any sort of dive into legitimate discussion of reasons?

Racists always screech racism loudest. We're dealing with mentally ill idiots.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Any idiot can doctor a photo.

And since you mentioned the little romp at the Capitol on Jan 6

View attachment 62938

ANTIFA is YOUR side of the aisle.
While Sullivan is allowed to move about freely and use social media, he has been barred from working with Insurgence USA, an independent media entity that opposes both the Black Lives Mater movement and the Proud Boys.


"Insurgence USA's mission is to provide you the truth. We are on the frontlines, giving you unedited raw footage, photos, and news of the insurrection here in America. Revealing the truth about Antifa and BLM's communist plans to overthrow democracy. Exposing the sinister motives of Proud Boys and Right-Wing militias as they plot to topple the government," the outlet's website states.
 

SW48

Administrator
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Driving while black.....sometimes even gets a person killed.
You may have a point if you also posted stats on what year and shape the vehicles were in percentag
Driving while black.....sometimes even gets a person killed.
Without more information this would be the same as saying the NBA is systemically racist against whites because only 18% of NBA players are white even though half of the population in the USA is white.

Both your example and mine are ridiculous without more information.

You would need to provide what percentage of each races vehicles have violations. You may be right, just need more information.
 

EatTheRich

President
You may have a point if you also posted stats on what year and shape the vehicles were in percentag


Without more information this would be the same as saying the NBA is systemically racist against whites because only 18% of NBA players are white even though half of the population in the USA is white.

Both your example and mine are ridiculous without more information.

You would need to provide what percentage of each races vehicles have violations. You may be right, just need more information.
If there’s a significant difference between races when it comes to that, it demonstrates an underlying inequality of opportunity.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
You may have a point if you also posted stats on what year and shape the vehicles were in percentag


Without more information this would be the same as saying the NBA is systemically racist against whites because only 18% of NBA players are white even though half of the population in the USA is white.

Both your example and mine are ridiculous without more information.

You would need to provide what percentage of each races vehicles have violations. You may be right, just need more information.
1. Check out NYC stop and frisk....for another example of systemic racism.

Stop-and-Frisk Data | New York Civil Liberties Union | ACLU of New York (nyclu.org)

2. Comparable data in other major metro area. Here's Minneapolis.
Why are cops wasting their time stopping people for broken tail lights? Shouldn't they be chasing after robbers and murderers?

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3. Here's data on police killings last year.

2020 Police Violence Report
 
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protectionist

Governor
1. Known Antifa member? Just how is it you know he is a member? Do you have access to the membership list?

2. I'm not sure where the picture of Sullivan with a Trump hat came from...but doesn't seem to have originated from the DC riot.

The founder of Black Lives Matter Utah, Lex Scott, responded to a Fox News report calling Sullivan “a BLM activist” with a TikTok statement in which she said he “never has been and never will be” a member of the group and called him “a thorn in our side.”

Two days after the attack on the Capitol, Sullivan confirmed that in a live video stream of his own, saying, “I’m not with BLM the organization. Do I believe personally Black lives matter? I believe Black lives matter. They matter, right? That’s simple, but I don’t believe in the organization, right, I’m not a part of it.” He also added, “I’m not antifa,” before concluding: “It’s pretty simple, you don’t call Black Panthers Martin Luther King.”

In the Gatewaypundit video you can see that Sullivan is nowhere near the front of the mob going into the capitol.

What happened at the capitol in a few hours, by mostly peaceful protestors, is a drop in the bucket compared to what happened over a WHOLE SUMMER for MONTHS of riots, in various cities, by violent leftist lunatics, and equally bad Democrat mayors & governors who supported them.

One would think violent rioting would be the last thing Democrats would want to be talking about. 1000 times as much blame on their side, and there still isn't even any confirmation as to exactly who the DC or Charlottesville protestors were, except that in Charlottesville, the leftists who were illegally blocking a legally permitted march, and started the fighting, were to blame.
 

protectionist

Governor
We are dealing with Julie. You expected the original post to be something other than fabricated statistics from an alt-left propaganda sites? And that doesn't even include any sort of dive into legitimate discussion of reasons?

Racists always screech racism loudest. We're dealing with mentally ill idiots.
True. Leftists are the biggest hypocrites in all of US history when it comes to race. They keep a race card in every pocket, and holler racism at any slightest opposition to whatever they are talking about.

In the meantime, the # 1 worst racism in America, victimizing, by far, the largest amount of people (whites), is race-based Affirmative Action, the only true SYSTEMIC RACISM in America. It is noted that these leftist loonies are precisely the ones who push and support all that Affirmative Action, even when it rewards wealthy blacks, while victimizing poor whites (and Asians).
 

protectionist

Governor
You may have a point if you also posted stats on what year and shape the vehicles were in percentag


Without more information this would be the same as saying the NBA is systemically racist against whites because only 18% of NBA players are white even though half of the population in the USA is white.

Both your example and mine are ridiculous without more information.

You would need to provide what percentage of each races vehicles have violations. You may be right, just need more information.
I suspect that the statistics of Julie's graphic could be ;

1. 20% of Minneapolis residents black,
2. 77% of Minneapolis residents pulled over by cops
3. 77% of Minneapolis residents given cops REASON to pull them over (no license plate, no tag light, expired tag, broken taillight, headlight not on, cracked windshield, etc)

Let's also note that the cops are doing their jobs, not taking the easy way out. Traffic stops are dangerous. Let's give the cops credit.
 
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