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Are Xi and Putin baiting Biden for war because they know he is weak

EatTheRich

President
I do not condone Russian or Chinese aggression but I would not support any American effort to oppose them by force. If the U.S. wants to supply arms, intelligence, or consumables to the Ukrainians, I say the more, the better.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
I do not condone Russian or Chinese aggression but I would not support any American effort to oppose them by force. If the U.S. wants to supply arms, intelligence, or consumables to the Ukrainians, I say the more, the better.
If WWIII starts they will be coming for YOU to serve
It will be our Last War
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Thanks to the advance of communism we have seen 75 years without a world imperialist war. Now that communism is in retreat the situation is much more dangerous.
Lollol lol lol ,..

That is hilarious...almost fell over.

Thanks to the bristling might of the most powerful nation in the history of time the last world scourge was scoured from this Earth, and everyone else has been kept at bay ever since
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
I certainly hope it doesn't happen
Never going to happen. Not in what is essentially the middle of the European arena. It's one thing to go blow things to hell in the middle of the desert, but nobody, with perhaps the exception of Russia, has the stomach for war in their own backyard. That is the principal reason that Russia is behaving the way it behaves. Because they know that the Europeans are a bunch of pussies
 

EatTheRich

President
Imperialism inevitably leads to bigger and bigger wars. Pious wishing doesn’t prevent it. Only overthrow of the capitalist system creates the objective condition for peace.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Thanks to the advance of communism we have seen 75 years without a world imperialist war. Now that communism is in retreat the situation is much more dangerous.
But we have had numerous examples of the USSR using military force to expand their control...Hungary 1956, Czechoslovakia in 1968, Afghanistan in 1979....

And that was just the Russians. Numerous conflicts in other countries funded by the communists.
 

EatTheRich

President
But we have had numerous examples of the USSR using military force to expand their control...Hungary 1956, Czechoslovakia in 1968, Afghanistan in 1979....

And that was just the Russians. Numerous conflicts in other countries funded by the communists.
The USSR was able to mount those kinds of reactionary invasions, aimed at arresting the advance of workers' democracy, up until communism's advance threw up Poland's Solidarity to check their power. Communists in other places exercised a right to insurrection against oppressive government. And all those hostilites whether from communist revolutionaries or from pseudo-communist counterrevolutionaries pale next to the record of the U.S. which happened to be invading Cuba, Korea, China, and Laos in 1956, Cuba, Korea, China, Laos, Vietnam, Thailand, and Cambodia in 1968, and Cuba, Korea, and China in 1979 (not to mention CIA armed hostilities in Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Angola, and probably Mozambique and Cambodia).
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
The USSR was able to mount those kinds of reactionary invasions, aimed at arresting the advance of workers' democracy, up until communism's advance threw up Poland's Solidarity to check their power. Communists in other places exercised a right to insurrection against oppressive government. And all those hostilites whether from communist revolutionaries or from pseudo-communist counterrevolutionaries pale next to the record of the U.S. which happened to be invading Cuba, Korea, China, and Laos in 1956, Cuba, Korea, China, Laos, Vietnam, Thailand, and Cambodia in 1968, and Cuba, Korea, and China in 1979 (not to mention CIA armed hostilities in Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Angola, and probably Mozambique and Cambodia).
You made a claim about communism being responsible for peace in the world. Now you qualify that with the excuses that the US was more warlike...so relatively speaking...communism was peaceful.
 

EatTheRich

President
You made a claim about communism being responsible for peace in the world. Now you qualify that with the excuses that the US was more warlike...so relatively speaking...communism was peaceful.
And the point is that the advance of communism restrained the U.S. and other imperialist nations so that the same competition that set off WWI and WWII was arrested before it could start WWIII ... for example when the Soviet acquisition of nuclear weapons stopped the U.S. from using its own nuclear weapons as it had been doing prior, when Chinese intervention turned the Hot War in Korea into a Cold War, when the USSR's support helped the U.S. to convince Britain, France, and Israel to halt their imperialist aggression during the Suez Crisis, when the Cubans were able to scare the U.S. off at Playa Giron aka Bay of Pigs, or when the Vietnamese victory in the making led to Nixon's detente policy and Carter's dovish presidency.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
And the point is that the advance of communism restrained the U.S. and other imperialist nations so that the same competition that set off WWI and WWII was arrested before it could start WWIII ... for example when the Soviet acquisition of nuclear weapons stopped the U.S. from using its own nuclear weapons as it had been doing prior, when Chinese intervention turned the Hot War in Korea into a Cold War, when the USSR's support helped the U.S. to convince Britain, France, and Israel to halt their imperialist aggression during the Suez Crisis, when the Cubans were able to scare the U.S. off at Playa Giron aka Bay of Pigs, or when the Vietnamese victory in the making led to Nixon's detente policy and Carter's dovish presidency.
The wars that followed WWII were not about imperialism? Really? Why did the Korean war happen? It was because the Russians supplied substantial military hardware to the North and the US didn't do the same for the South. North Korea went to war because they thought it would be an easy conquest in expanding communism.

The 1956 war over the Suez was completely different....The French built the Suez canal. A company owned by French and British investors owned the rights until Nasser nationalized it in 1956. He did that in retaliation for the refusal by the World Bank to fund a dam across the Nile at Aswan.
 

EatTheRich

President
The wars that followed WWII were not about imperialism? Really? Why did the Korean war happen? It was because the Russians supplied substantial military hardware to the North and the US didn't do the same for the South. North Korea went to war because they thought it would be an easy conquest in expanding communism.

The 1956 war over the Suez was completely different....The French built the Suez canal. A company owned by French and British investors owned the rights until Nasser nationalized it in 1956. He did that in retaliation for the refusal by the World Bank to fund a dam across the Nile at Aswan.
Of course they were about imperialism. But the imperialist powers were contained by the communist movement, for example when N. Korea with Soviet aid made the imperialists pay for occupying and dividing their country in defiance of the will of the voters.
 
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