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Dawg

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Trump and rightwing media want you all to fear and hate on BLM. That's the white supremacist agenda. And when an unarmed black person is killed by cops, you all rush to say the victim deserved it.
Look at BLM pictures there's almost equal whites and blacks and at times more whites than blacks

:)
 

Dino

Russian Asset
WTF?

1. The fund that they contributed to picked who to contribute bail to. That fund did not control who judges granted bail to.
2. Someone arrested for a curfew violation should stay in jail for a few weeks? Is that what you think?
3. Why were judges granting bail to "violent actors"?
4. How many accused arsonists were bailed out by the fund?
They bailed out someone for a murder. And the funds Kamala endorsed and encouraged people to donate to were specifically set up to bail out rioters and those who did violence to police.

“If you’re able to, chip in now to the @MNFreedomFund to help post bail for those protesting on the ground in Minnesota,” she wrote on Facebook and Twitter, including links to an MFF donation page on the left-leaning fundraising site, ActBlue.


A Minnesota nonprofit has bailed out defendants from Twin Cities jails charged with murder, violent felonies, and sex crimes, as it seeks to address a system that disproportionately incarcerates Black people and people of color.

And it has plenty of money to do it.

The Minnesota Freedom Fund (MFF) received $35 million in donations in the wake of the police killing of George Floyd
 

Dino

Russian Asset
Really? So you never read any of the wingers here say that Floyd was to blame for his own death? I think it was @reason10 who said the guy shot running away from a cop was rightfully killed because he was an escaping felon.
Really? Are you a liar or just a shitty reader?

And when an unarmed black person is killed by cops, you all rush to say the victim deserved it.

Did she mention Floyd?? It’s a blanket bullshit generalization.
 

Dawg

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Supporting Member
They bailed out someone for a murder. And the funds Kamala endorsed and encouraged people to donate to were specifically set up to bail out rioters and those who did violence to police.

“If you’re able to, chip in now to the @MNFreedomFund to help post bail for those protesting on the ground in Minnesota,” she wrote on Facebook and Twitter, including links to an MFF donation page on the left-leaning fundraising site, ActBlue.


A Minnesota nonprofit has bailed out defendants from Twin Cities jails charged with murder, violent felonies, and sex crimes, as it seeks to address a system that disproportionately incarcerates Black people and people of color.

And it has plenty of money to do it.

The Minnesota Freedom Fund (MFF) received $35 million in donations in the wake of the police killing of George Floyd
Leftist support that and cash bonds that creates more murders
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Leftist support that and cash bonds that creates more murders
So it is ok for a judge to set bond on someone who had committed murder or rape, but not ok for anyone to help those in jail to make bond?

If the judge has determined that the accused is not dangerous enough to remain in custody, why would you condemn those who help make bail?
 

Dawg

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So it is ok for a judge to set bond on someone who had committed murder or rape, but not ok for anyone to help those in jail to make bond?

If the judge has determined that the accused is not dangerous enough to remain in custody, why would you condemn those who help make bail?
Some one is not Dangerous that just committed Murder or Rape........damm.....you're sic

I doubt majority see a Judge
Judges aren't at the jail houses
 

middleview

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Some one is not Dangerous that just committed Murder or Rape........damm.....you're sic

I doubt majority see a Judge
Judges aren't at the jail houses
showing once again how ignorant you are...who sets bail if not a judge?
 

Dawg

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Supporting Member
funny thing...your link fails

I did a search and the suspect was charged with...a murder? Nooe. Arson? Nah. Lying to the FBI..yeah...boom your ass.
Magistrate sets bail was subject

(CNN)
-- A federal magistrate set bail at $50,000 Monday for one of the three men charged with lying to federal agents during a wide-ranging terrorism inquiry, as the men made their first appearances in courtrooms in New York and Colorado.

A lawyer for Najibullah Zazi disputes claims that bomb-making plans were found on his client's computer.

Najibullah Zazi is accused of making false statements to officials about an alleged bomb plot in the United States.

Mohammed Wali Zazi, 53, whose son is at the center of the terrorism investigation, will be allowed to go home under electronic monitoring and required to remain there except for work, medical care, religious services or court appearances, prosecutors said.

U.S. Magistrate Judge Craig Shaffer in Denver, Colorado, set bail at $50,000, but Zazi is unlikely to be released until later this week.

Prosecutors are asking that his son, 24-year-old Najibullah Zazi, be held until trial. Shaffer set a detention hearing for the younger Zazi for Thursday.

Investigators said Najibullah Zazi has admitted attending courses and receiving instructions on weapons and explosives at an al Qaeda training facility in Pakistan's tribal areas during a 2008 trip and lied to federal agents about explosives-handling instructions they found on his computer.

His attorney, Arthur Folsom, has denied the allegations.

The Zazis and Ahmad Wais Afzali, a 37-year-old Muslim cleric and funeral director from the New York borough of Queens, are the first people charged in connection with what the Justice Department has said was a plot to detonate bombs in the United States.

Earlier Monday, Afzali appeared in a federal court in New York, where a not-guilty plea was entered on his behalf. He smiled as he listened to the magistrate read the charge against him, blowing kisses to his wife during the hearing.

Ron Kuby, Afzali's lawyer, said his client had tried to help federal agents find Najibullah Zazi and called the charge against his client "a bootstrap case" the government brought "to cover up their own failings and the fact that they were the ones who blew this investigation."

According to affidavits outlining the charges against him, Afzali warned Najibullah Zazi that his phone call was being monitored. But Kuby said Afzali was helping "absolutely frantic" federal agents find Zazi, who had attended his Queens mosque with his family as a teenager.

"My client didn't tip him off, he was already tipped off," Kuby said. "And now the FBI is looking for somebody to blame."

Afzali was ordered to remain in custody until a bond hearing later this week. Kuby said his client had been an occasional source for New York's Joint Terrorism Task Force when it looked into previous terror plots, and a detective who had sought out Afzali as a source in previous cases would testify on the imam's behalf Thursday.

All three suspects are originally from Afghanistan. Mohammed Wali Zazi is a naturalized U.S. citizen, and Afzali and Najibullah Zazi are permanent legal residents. If convicted, each faces eight years in prison.
Video
Watch why authorities wanted to talk with Zazi »

The plot may have been targeting a major transportation center, such as a large railroad or subway station, sources close to the investigation said last week.

Federal agents have "no specific information regarding the timing, location or target of any planned attack," David Kris, assistant attorney general for national security, said in a written statement.

Court papers describe conversations among the men. At one point, according to the papers, Afzali warned Najibullah Zazi that their phone call was being monitored.

"I was exposed to something yesterday from the authorities," Afzali allegedly told Zazi in a September 11 call. "And they came to ask me about your characters. They asked me about you guys. ... I told them that they are innocent, law-abiding."

Afzali, however, called the questions from police "a good sign."

"The bad sign is for them coming to you guys and picking you up automatically," he said. And he allegedly told the younger Zazi, "Don't get into the Afghanistan garbage, Iraq garbage. ... Listen, our phone call is being monitored."

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The federal complaint against Afzali says he falsely asserted that he never told Zazi that agents were monitoring him on the phone, an assertion Kuby slammed.

"Why on Earth is the imam going to lie to the FBI about the contents of a conversation that he knows they're recording?" Kuby asked Monday.

The criminal complaint against Afzali also says he falsely told federal agents that he did not ask Zazi about evidence in his rental car.

The inquiry emerged after a series of raids in Queens on September 14, three days after the intercepted calls. A police stop of Najibullah Zazi during a visit to New York raised investigators' concern that he would discover he was under surveillance, a former counterterrorism official familiar with the investigation said last week.

At the Queens residence where Zazi stayed during his visit, FBI agents seized a black scale containing several AA batteries. Zazi's fingerprints were on both, the criminal complaint against him said.

And agents searched his rental car and laptop computer while he was there, turning up what they said were handwritten notes of his that explained how to make, handle and detonate explosives, according to the complaint.

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An FBI expert determined that the handwriting in the photographed document was similar to Najibullah Zazi's, according to the complaint. But during an interview with investigators Wednesday, Zazi denied having the instructions and said that if it was found on his computer, he must have unintentionally downloaded it as part of a religious book. He said he deleted the book within days after he realized that its contents discussed a holy war, investigators said.

According to court records, Mohammed Wali Zazi falsely told investigators that he had not called, nor had he received a call, from anyone in New York asking him about his son's activities. He also said he did not know anyone named Afzali, despite recorded phone calls that showed he did, the FBI stated.

You think terrorist don't murder or rape!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Be a MAN and admit you were wrong or keep crying
 

middleview

President
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Magistrate sets bail was subject

(CNN)
-- A federal magistrate set bail at $50,000 Monday for one of the three men charged with lying to federal agents during a wide-ranging terrorism inquiry, as the men made their first appearances in courtrooms in New York and Colorado.

A lawyer for Najibullah Zazi disputes claims that bomb-making plans were found on his client's computer.'s computer.

Najibullah Zazi is accused of making false statements to officials about an alleged bomb plot in the United States.

Mohammed Wali Zazi, 53, whose son is at the center of the terrorism investigation, will be allowed to go home under electronic monitoring and required to remain there except for work, medical care, religious services or court appearances, prosecutors said.

U.S. Magistrate Judge Craig Shaffer in Denver, Colorado, set bail at $50,000, but Zazi is unlikely to be released until later this week.

Prosecutors are asking that his son, 24-year-old Najibullah Zazi, be held until trial. Shaffer set a detention hearing for the younger Zazi for Thursday.

Investigators said Najibullah Zazi has admitted attending courses and receiving instructions on weapons and explosives at an al Qaeda training facility in Pakistan's tribal areas during a 2008 trip and lied to federal agents about explosives-handling instructions they found on his computer.

His attorney, Arthur Folsom, has denied the allegations.

The Zazis and Ahmad Wais Afzali, a 37-year-old Muslim cleric and funeral director from the New York borough of Queens, are the first people charged in connection with what the Justice Department has said was a plot to detonate bombs in the United States.

Earlier Monday, Afzali appeared in a federal court in New York, where a not-guilty plea was entered on his behalf. He smiled as he listened to the magistrate read the charge against him, blowing kisses to his wife during the hearing.

Ron Kuby, Afzali's lawyer, said his client had tried to help federal agents find Najibullah Zazi and called the charge against his client "a bootstrap case" the government brought "to cover up their own failings and the fact that they were the ones who blew this investigation."

According to affidavits outlining the charges against him, Afzali warned Najibullah Zazi that his phone call was being monitored. But Kuby said Afzali was helping "absolutely frantic" federal agents find Zazi, who had attended his Queens mosque with his family as a teenager.

"My client didn't tip him off, he was already tipped off," Kuby said. "And now the FBI is looking for somebody to blame."

Afzali was ordered to remain in custody until a bond hearing later this week. Kuby said his client had been an occasional source for New York's Joint Terrorism Task Force when it looked into previous terror plots, and a detective who had sought out Afzali as a source in previous cases would testify on the imam's behalf Thursday.

All three suspects are originally from Afghanistan. Mohammed Wali Zazi is a naturalized U.S. citizen, and Afzali and Najibullah Zazi are permanent legal residents. If convicted, each faces eight years in prison.
Video
Watch why authorities wanted to talk with Zazi »

The plot may have been targeting a major transportation center, such as a large railroad or subway station, sources close to the investigation said last week.

Federal agents have "no specific information regarding the timing, location or target of any planned attack," David Kris, assistant attorney general for national security, said in a written statement.

Court papers describe conversations among the men. At one point, according to the papers, Afzali warned Najibullah Zazi that their phone call was being monitored.

"I was exposed to something yesterday from the authorities," Afzali allegedly told Zazi in a September 11 call. "And they came to ask me about your characters. They asked me about you guys. ... I told them that they are innocent, law-abiding."

Afzali, however, called the questions from police "a good sign."

"The bad sign is for them coming to you guys and picking you up automatically," he said. And he allegedly told the younger Zazi, "Don't get into the Afghanistan garbage, Iraq garbage. ... Listen, our phone call is being monitored."

Don't Miss
The federal complaint against Afzali says he falsely asserted that he never told Zazi that agents were monitoring him on the phone, an assertion Kuby slammed.

"Why on Earth is the imam going to lie to the FBI about the contents of a conversation that he knows they're recording?" Kuby asked Monday.

The criminal complaint against Afzali also says he falsely told federal agents that he did not ask Zazi about evidence in his rental car.

The inquiry emerged after a series of raids in Queens on September 14, three days after the intercepted calls. A police stop of Najibullah Zazi during a visit to New York raised investigators' concern that he would discover he was under surveillance, a former counterterrorism official familiar with the investigation said last week.

At the Queens residence where Zazi stayed during his visit, FBI agents seized a black scale containing several AA batteries. Zazi's fingerprints were on both, the criminal complaint against him said.

And agents searched his rental car and laptop computer while he was there, turning up what they said were handwritten notes of his that explained how to make, handle and detonate explosives, according to the complaint.

advertisement


An FBI expert determined that the handwriting in the photographed document was similar to Najibullah Zazi's, according to the complaint. But during an interview with investigators Wednesday, Zazi denied having the instructions and said that if it was found on his computer, he must have unintentionally downloaded it as part of a religious book. He said he deleted the book within days after he realized that its contents discussed a holy war, investigators said.

According to court records, Mohammed Wali Zazi falsely told investigators that he had not called, nor had he received a call, from anyone in New York asking him about his son's activities. He also said he did not know anyone named Afzali, despite recorded phone calls that showed he did, the FBI stated.

You think terrorist don't murder or rape!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Be a MAN and admit you were wrong or keep crying
bail is set based on the charges...you claimed magistrates set bail for murderers and arsonists and then show a magstrate set bail for lying...
 

Dawg

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bail is set based on the charges...you claimed magistrates set bail for murderers and arsonists and then show a magstrate set bail for lying...
Where did I post Magistrates post bail for "arsonist"____________
My gawd lil' fella, you said Judges set Bail I countered that Magistrates set Bail and proved that to be TRUE

Terrorist in Colorado.........
 
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middleview

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Where did I post Magistrates post bail for "arsonist"____________
My gawd lil' fella, you said Judges set Bail I countered that Magistrates set Bail and proved that to be TRUE

Terrorist in Colorado.........
start with your post #188.
 

middleview

President
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nothing posted of arsonist in #188
Over the posts from 188 on there were references to murder, rape, arson...and dangerous offenders getting bail set...and you claim the majority don't see a judge. Your proof is a murderer? No. A rapist? No..An arsonist?

A person who lied to the FBI...run along or you'll miss the short bus and have to walk to day care.
 
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