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Because of all the rigged prosecutions of Trump I don't trust this system at all.

Bugsy McGurk

President
"Ginned up"?

Was the DNC and a number of election systems hacked by the Russians? Yes.
Were quite a few emails released by Wiki intended to help Trump and hurt Clinton? Yes.
Did Popadopolous tell Alexander Downer the Russians had dirt on Clinton, before the wiki release? Yes.
Did Downer tell the FBI about hearing about the Russian dirt after the Wiki email release? Yes.
Were there an unusual number of contacts between the Russian government and the Trump campaign? Yes. Somewhere around 100. No other presidential campaign, ever, was in constant contact with the Russians.

Was there a self professed "advisor" to the Kremlin on the Trump campaign? Yes. Carter Page.

You say the investigation was ginned up and a witch hunt. I say the Russian activities were intended to help Trump win and deserved investigation.
Some highlights from David Frum’s excellent article:


In June 2016, the Trump campaign received a request for a meeting from a Russian lawyer offering harmful information on Hillary Clinton. Donald Trump Jr. and other senior Trump advisers accepted the meeting. The Trump team did not obtain the dirt they’d hoped for. But the very fact of the meeting confirmed to the Russian side the Trump campaign’s eagerness to accept Russian assistance.

Shortly after, Trump delivered his “Russia, if you’re listening” invitation at his last press conference of the campaign.WikiLeaks released two big caches of hacked Democratic emails in July and October 2016. In the words of the Senate Intelligence Committee: “WikiLeaks actively sought, and played, a key role in the Russian intelligence campaign and very likely knew it was assisting a Russian intelligence influence effort.

”Through its ally Roger Stone, the Trump campaign team assiduously tried to communicate with WikiLeaks. Before the second WikiLeaks release, “Trump and the Campaign believed that Stone had inside information and expressed satisfaction that Stone’s information suggested more releases would be forthcoming,” according to the Senate Intelligence Committee. In late summer and early fall 2016, Stone repeatedly predicted that WikiLeaks would publish an “October surprise” that would harm the Clinton campaign.

In March 2016, the Trump campaign accepted the unpaid services of Paul Manafort, deeply beholden to deeply shady Russian business and political figures. “On numerous occasions, Manafort sought to secretly share internal Campaign information” with a man the Intelligence Committee identified as a Russian intelligence officer. “Taken as a whole, Manafort’s High-level access and willingness to share information with individuals closely affiliated with the Russian intelligence services … represented a grave counterintelligence threat,” the committee found. Through 2016, the Russian state launched a massive Facebook disinformation program that aligned with the Trump campaign strategy.

And that’s just a taste.


Wingers: No collusion!

;-)
 

EatTheRich

President
What?


That the obamacare mandate wasn't a tax until it was. That there would be no vaccine mandates until there was. That mandates aren't unconstitutional. All lies.


When they said Covid was a disease of the unvaxxed. When Israel's and UK's data showed that was a lie. You should follow more closely.
Israel and the UK have both had disproportionately unvaccinated people getting sick and dying.
 

EatTheRich

President
I don't.

I explain the vast racial disparities of outcome in actual ability for the most part. The ability of parents to get and stay married. The ability of decadal run Democrat cities to effectively spend their educational dollars. The ability of abortions to dehumanize targeted groups of people and devalue human life. The ability of culture to arrest the development of people. And in the end the ability of a race for its reach to exceed its grasp intellectually. It is nature and nurture. But fundamentally nature must nurture so it may be only nature that matters.
Race is as arbitrary as astrological sign, it is unscientific to think that it is correlated so closely with disparity in ability so as to explain why race is so big a predictor of success.
 

God of War

Lets go Brandon!
Race is as arbitrary as astrological sign, it is unscientific to think that it is correlated so closely with disparity in ability so as to explain why race is so big a predictor of success.
Tell it to the track and field, basketball, or football athletes. Genes are not a construct.
 

God of War

Lets go Brandon!
What about the athletes? There is almost no correlation between common genetic ancestry and racial assignment.
Real life experimental results are forcefully denying your weak claim. Funny how you lefties believe in genetics related to mRNA and DNA vaccines but not when it comes to athleticism or intelligence. The difference isn't extreme in either case but sufficient enough to identify winners and losers.
 

EatTheRich

President
Real life experimental results are forcefully denying your weak claim. Funny how you lefties believe in genetics related to mRNA and DNA vaccines but not when it comes to athleticism or intelligence. The difference isn't extreme in either case but sufficient enough to identify winners and losers.
I believe in genetics too. But genetics do not explain race which groups people with disparate genetic endowments into arbitrary non-genetic cohorts and systematically arranges for that grouping … not genetics … to determine their opportunities.
 

God of War

Lets go Brandon!
I believe in genetics too. But genetics do not explain race which groups people with disparate genetic endowments into arbitrary non-genetic cohorts and systematically arranges for that grouping … not genetics … to determine their opportunities.
Natural selection on the Serengeti when Wildebeests are culled.

Team tryouts.

SAT tests.

They broadly validate the genetically favored by nurture. The ability to nurture probably having a significant genetic component. For better or for worse individuals who hail from geographical locations highly determinative of their genetic make up do indeed share genetic destiny. Genetic destiny is highly determinative of many things is becoming increasingly clear. Maybe even such character attributes as moral fiber, work ethic, empathy, wisdom, ... A true heart for good over evil. Certainly the truth in a Christian God free world.
 

EatTheRich

President
Natural selection on the Serengeti when Wildebeests are culled.

Team tryouts.

SAT tests.

They broadly validate the genetically favored by nurture. The ability to nurture probably having a significant genetic component. For better or for worse individuals who hail from geographical locations highly determinative of their genetic make up do indeed share genetic destiny. Genetic destiny is highly determinative of many things is becoming increasingly clear. Maybe even such character attributes as moral fiber, work ethic, empathy, wisdom, ... A true heart for good over evil. Certainly the truth in a Christian God free world.
SAT tests were calibrated and have ever since been recalibrated based on the assumption that they should produce results favoring whites (who are culturally distinguished from nonwhites in our segregated, racist culture). If Blacks did better than whites on SAT questions, those questions were automatically considered invalid and thrown out.
 

God of War

Lets go Brandon!
SAT tests were calibrated and have ever since been recalibrated based on the assumption that they should produce results favoring whites (who are culturally distinguished from nonwhites in our segregated, racist culture). If Blacks did better than whites on SAT questions, those questions were automatically considered invalid and thrown out.
You're dreaming up what amounts to excuses for the intelligence markers not being representative but not for the athletic ones. Why? Seriously, why?
 

EatTheRich

President
You're dreaming up what amounts to excuses for the intelligence markers not being representative but not for the athletic ones. Why? Seriously, why?
Athletics today is one of the avenues most open to talent. Talented Blacks thus find themselves pushed into athletics because other avenues are disproportionately closed off to them, while many whites of equal talent will eschew athletic opportunities because they have others.

It was a commonplace understanding in the early 20th century that Blacks just weren’t as good as whites at sports which is why they weren’t in Major League Baseball or the NBA.
 

God of War

Lets go Brandon!
Athletics today is one of the avenues most open to talent. Talented Blacks thus find themselves pushed into athletics because other avenues are disproportionately closed off to them, while many whites of equal talent will eschew athletic opportunities because they have others.

It was a commonplace understanding in the early 20th century that Blacks just weren’t as good as whites at sports which is why they weren’t in Major League Baseball or the NBA.
Youi're just yapping.

I asked you why you aren't making the same kind of claims about genetics with regards to atheletics as you do for intelligence? Why?
 

EatTheRich

President
Youi're just yapping.

I asked you why you aren't making the same kind of claims about genetics with regards to atheletics as you do for intelligence? Why?
What claims? Aptitude for athletics (which requires tremendous intelligence) and intelligence are certainly influenced by genetics. But that has little to do with race.
 

God of War

Lets go Brandon!
What claims? Aptitude for athletics (which requires tremendous intelligence) and intelligence are certainly influenced by genetics. But that has little to do with race.
Would you like to use a different term than race to explain how to group genetic samples of generally similar types?
 

EatTheRich

President
Would you like to use a different term than race to explain how to group genetic samples of generally similar types?
We could call them genetic cohorts, as long as it is understood that grouping into genetic cohorts has little to do with grouping into race and in no way explains the racial distribution of opportunity.
 
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