Biden presiding over USA’s dwindling to world alsoran

[Number_58]

You complain when I respond and then whine when I am laughing at you. What you need is a blog where everyone agrees with you.

Nah...I bring up when you jump on and try to change the subject...which you do in nearly every topic you comment on. And I'm not whining about anything...just calling your laughing at posts immature and childish...acting like Trump.

 

[Number_58]

Ok, let's talk about the LFPR. Notice the huge drop in 2020. It is slowly recovering.


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What Has Driven the Labor Force Participation Gap since February 2020? - Liberty Street Economics

The U.S. labor force participation rate (LFPR) currently stands at 62.5 percent, 0.8 percentage point below its level in February 2020. This “participation gap” translates into 2.1 million workers out of the labor force. In this post, we evaluate three potential drivers of the gap: First...

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And nearly 1% lower than before Democrat governors shut down states and Democrat mayors shut down cities. Before the "pandemic", the unemployment rate was at 3.5%...which is lower than the current 3.6%.

Now why doesn't all this calculate? Especially knowing those over the age of 60 years old, reentering the workforce, is at the highest rate ever.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

You ignore the fact that the previous president was the most divisive ever.

Because the Democrats (almost every one of them) viewed him as illegitimate from day one.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

You complain when I respond and then whine when I am laughing at you. What you need is a blog where everyone agrees with you.

What we need is a blog where everyone lives in the real world.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Ok, let's talk about the LFPR. Notice the huge drop in 2020. It is slowly recovering.


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What Has Driven the Labor Force Participation Gap since February 2020? - Liberty Street Economics

The U.S. labor force participation rate (LFPR) currently stands at 62.5 percent, 0.8 percentage point below its level in February 2020. This “participation gap” translates into 2.1 million workers out of the labor force. In this post, we evaluate three potential drivers of the gap: First...

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[middleview]

Because the Democrats (almost every one of them) viewed him as illegitimate from day one.

1. He lost the election by 3 million votes and still got the job. The electoral college defeats the will of the voters.
2. He started his administration with a war on the media. He even admitted that he wanted to hurt their credibility from the very start so he could minimize the impact of negative press.
3. His childish insults and pet names for those who opposed him were certainly not intended to unite us. Telling us that he loved Kim Jong Un and that Kim didn't know that his guards had beaten to Otto Warmbier nearly to death added to his comments about Putin having greater credibility than his own Intelligence community were not exactly pro-USA...right?

Holy shit....he even said that Ted Cruz's dad was somehow involved with Lee Harvey Oswald and that democrats are socialists. Add to that the accusations that the 2016 election involved millions of illegal voters and failed to prove it and even abandoned the investigation and then started up arguing that the 2020 election was going to be stolen even before anyone cast a vote.

Yep...blame the democrats.

 

[middleview]

What we need is a blog where everyone lives in the real world.

This is your version of the real world...
Because the Democrats (almost every one of them) viewed him as illegitimate from day one.

 

[middleview]

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Do you actually have a point? The LFPR has been slowly recovering from the huge drop in 2020. You can find the same sort of drop if you look into oil production...2020 was a huge hit. Is it better today than it was in January 2021? Yes.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Do you actually have a point? The LFPR has been slowly recovering from the huge drop in 2020. You can find the same sort of drop if you look into oil production...2020 was a huge hit. Is it better today than it was in January 2021? Yes.

Yes, the huge drop that resulted from leftist authoritarians forcing large swaths of the country into extended lockdowns. Which, of course, collapsed demand for oil. 2020 was a self inflicted mortal wound. It is still worse that when Trump was in control of the agenda, yes?

 

[Raoul_Luke]

This is your version of the real world...
Because the Democrats (almost every one of them) viewed him as illegitimate from day one.

Yep...you are exhibit one.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

1. He lost the election by 3 million votes and still got the job. The electoral college defeats the will of the voters.
2. He started his administration with a war on the media. He even admitted that he wanted to hurt their credibility from the very start so he could minimize the impact of negative press.
3. His childish insults and pet names for those who opposed him were certainly not intended to unite us. Telling us that he loved Kim Jong Un and that Kim didn't know that his guards had beaten to Otto Warmbier nearly to death added to his comments about Putin having greater credibility than his own Intelligence community were not exactly pro-USA...right?

Holy shit....he even said that Ted Cruz's dad was somehow involved with Lee Harvey Oswald and that democrats are socialists. Add to that the accusations that the 2016 election involved millions of illegal voters and failed to prove it and even abandoned the investigation and then started up arguing that the 2020 election was going to be stolen even before anyone cast a vote.

Yep...blame the democrats.

I think Nancy said it best:



So the presumption of innocence doesn't apply to Trump...you agree with that?

 

[middleview]

Yes, the huge drop that resulted from leftist authoritarians forcing large swaths of the country into extended lockdowns. Which, of course, collapsed demand for oil. 2020 was a self inflicted mortal wound. It is still worse that when Trump was in control of the agenda, yes?

Trump ordered the lockdown in March 2020. Did you forget? Countries around the world ordered lockdowns. US oil production dropped by around 30% as did OPEC production.

Even without government ordered lockdowns, people were staying home. People were not taking vacations and they were avoiding going out to eat, going to the movies, concerts,...

You can continue to blame governors and mayors and ignore Trump's own contribution to the uncertainty and impact...but it simply makes you look even less credible.

You seem to want to dance right past the fact that Trump was in control when the huge drop in LFPR, GDP and the increase in unemployment happened in 2020. Do you deny that the measures have improved since Biden came into office?

 

[Number_58]

Trump ordered the lockdown in March 2020. Did you forget? Countries around the world ordered lockdowns. US oil production dropped by around 30% as did OPEC production.

Even without government ordered lockdowns, people were staying home. People were not taking vacations and they were avoiding going out to eat, going to the movies, concerts,...

You can continue to blame governors and mayors and ignore Trump's own contribution to the uncertainty and impact...but it simply makes you look even less credible.

You seem to want to dance right past the fact that Trump was in control when the huge drop in LFPR, GDP and the increase in unemployment happened in 2020. Do you deny that the measures have improved since Biden came into office?

Trump didn't have the authority to lock anything down, he knew that, and it didn't happen...coming from his administration.

Lock downs came from governors and mayors. Our governor left it to local officials. Where I live, there were no lock downs, no mask mandates, no businesses closed. You saying Trump locked down anything is a bald face lie, you know it, but keep repeating it.

Governors and Mayors (the vast majority being being Democrats) enforced the unnecessary, extended lock downs. I went to restaurants, went to work every day, gassed up at Quik Trips, went in and bought my beer...my life didn't change one bit.

When it comes to continually spouting lies hoping those lies will eventually be believed, you're as bad as Biden. Unfortunately for you and Resident Joe, Al Gore invented the internet and we can go back and get the truth.

And, yes...I will deny that things have improved since Biden took office. My IRA is down nearly 15%, my groceries are 10% higher, my energy bill is double, and I'm paying over $1.50/gallon more than I was under Trump.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Trump ordered the lockdown in March 2020. Did you forget? Countries around the world ordered lockdowns. US oil production dropped by around 30% as did OPEC production.

Even without government ordered lockdowns, people were staying home. People were not taking vacations and they were avoiding going out to eat, going to the movies, concerts,...

You can continue to blame governors and mayors and ignore Trump's own contribution to the uncertainty and impact...but it simply makes you look even less credible.

You seem to want to dance right past the fact that Trump was in control when the huge drop in LFPR, GDP and the increase in unemployment happened in 2020. Do you deny that the measures have improved since Biden came into office?

He also tried to reverse them almost immediately. Remember his "reopen by Easter" efforts?

Sure they were:

How the Illegal Rave Scene Thrives During the Pandemic - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

The last thing Trump was, was "in control." Regardless, you supported them so it is entirely disingenuous to suggest that those bad economic conditions be assigned to him and him alone. If you had an ounce of integrity, you would admit you thought what he did was the right thing and that the economic conditions that resulted don't "count" against him, because, well, he did the right thing. And, even if you don't, it is doubly disingenuous to suggest that Biden simply sitting in the Oval Office when it was over is the sole reason for the (rather tepid) recovery that ensued when the lockdowns ended and economic activity returned to "normal."

Frankly, that's a lot of disingenuity for one person, but you pull it off like a pro.

 

[EatTheRich]

Saudis working with China to ditch the petrodollar. “Brazil, China strike trade deal agreement to ditch US dollar”. Not only is our currency devalued…it is being actively warred against and increasingly abandoned.

This is not a small thing.

Looks like some folks are getting their wish that America take its place among the indistinguishable “average” nations. Whittle it all down to a pedestrian nub.

The U.S. has been in steady decline since losing the Vietnam War and the Cold War. The 9/11 attacks, Tea Party polarization, and Trump presidency all accelerated that decline greatly. Now we are posed to see big shocks like the potential for levels of inflation unprecedented in this country. There is nothing Biden or any capitalist politician can do to fundamentally arrest this process, save by precipitating a descent into such a new Dark Age that the basis for American strength in the conditions of the past is revived (and even then there is no guarantee that the U.S. would survive the sort of catastrophic collapse of civilization that alone is compatible with continuing American hegemony).

 

[EatTheRich]

You think we have inflation now? As the petrodollar is increasingly abandoned, those dollars return home - a vast OCEAN of dollars profoundly diluting the already sinking American Dollar. Hence, in addition to altogether dethroning America as world international economic driver, our very currency itself will be dramatically devalued.
Why have we not headed this crap off…dispatching leadership to places like Argentina, Brazil, India, Saudi Arabia, etc. - all countries actively persuaded directly by CHINA to recalibrate transactions to Chinese currency?

Why is no one in this forum ever curious about actual significant threats to the USA? No one posts on this sort of thing. It’s all top posted “junk food” here.

Because the U.S.’s only leverage (as has essentially been the case for the last 30 years) is its military advantage, but the U.S. also no longer wins wars as readily as it once was able to.

 

[EatTheRich]

I sincerely believe this is intentional. Obama frequently lamented America’s leadership position in the world - economically and militarily. He is now presiding over a correction of this “injustice” (via his proxy).

And the incurious hordes continue fluff posts - in part because they are vacuous morons…and in part because they share the Obama view and support American decline.

Obama was trying to slow down the decline by criticizing the attempt to reach beyond the U.S.’s grasp.

 

[EatTheRich]

What's the labor force participation rate right now? Unemployment numbers are bullshit data...the government can and does manipulate them to say whatever narrative they want. Don't feed me unemployment bullshit.

For the record, it’s 62.5%, up 2% from when Biden took office.

 

[EatTheRich]

No one that owns a business around here, especially restaurants are saying what he said, employees are all but impossible to find, one restaurant that's been open since 70's and always full have cut their hours way back due to not being able to find employees and not due to high employment it's due to many will not work.

If Topic is Biden that lil' shut-in will always jack the topic and keeps rplying to me Begging for me to reply to him

Low-wage employees are hard to find because they have so many higher-paying jobs open.

 

[EatTheRich]

Yes, the huge drop that resulted from leftist authoritarians forcing large swaths of the country into extended lockdowns. Which, of course, collapsed demand for oil. 2020 was a self inflicted mortal wound. It is still worse that when Trump was in control of the agenda, yes?

As you know, unemployment soared prior to the lockdowns, and the states and cities with the strictest lockdowns saw the quickest jobs growth.