Blood on Cuomo's hands.

[Raoul_Luke]

We saw what happened when this virus got on a ship with its cramped quarters and high density of people.
Hotels are closer to nursing homes than hospital ships are. You can surely isolate someone in a hotel a lot easier than you could on a ship. Would a patient on a ship have their own room and restroom as well ?

If you only used it as a "step down" facility for recovering covid-19 patients who were being discharged from acute care facilities. and let them finish their recovery there with other recovering covid-19 patients, rather than sending them to a long term care facility where they would be intermingled with non-covid-19 patients, the "cramped quarters" argument is moot. This isn't rocket science. But I only worked for 20 years in hospital administration, so what do I know. Obviously Cuomo is way smarter than me.

 

[TBLee]

There were hospitals on land. That ship was supposed to treat NON covid patients.

Isolation is not something a hospital is supposed to do. A hotel would be much better suited to keep someone away from others for their quarantine period. Then they could have been taken from Trump fleece joints to a regular nursing home.

You are wrong. Of course hospitals do isolation. NO excuses for what Cuomo did. By sending the elderly, sick patients back into those nursing homes and NOT providing the PPE necessary to protect the staff and residents he failed all of them. Cuomo is guilty.

 

[TBLee]

Please don't derail, this is not a trump thread. Thank you for your kind understanding.

Tell your buddy Spam that.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

There were hospitals on land. That ship was supposed to treat NON covid patients.

Isolation is not something a hospital is supposed to do. A hotel would be much better suited to keep someone away from others for their quarantine period. Then they could have been taken from Trump fleece joints to a regular nursing home.

How many did it end up treating?

 

[Drumcollie]

Please don't derail, this is not a trump thread. Thank you for your kind understanding.

And it's not your thread. If Reason 10 thinks there is a problem, then Reason 10 can say so. So please don't try to derail pretending you have a say in what this thread is about. I'll extend the olive branch, which if agree with the premise of the thread of the blunders of Cuomo which left blood on his hands, then it's extended. But otherwise you and your liberal friends should shut up.

 

[Drumcollie]

There were hospitals on land. That ship was supposed to treat NON covid patients.

Isolation is not something a hospital is supposed to do. A hotel would be much better suited to keep someone away from others for their quarantine period. Then they could have been taken from Trump fleece joints to a regular nursing home.

It's sad that all you and Cuomo can do is make up crap.

Isolation units in hospitals
isolation unit. A hospital unit in which patients suffering from communicable diseases may be separated from other patients.
Isolation unit | definition of isolation unit by Medical ...

medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/isolation+unit

Of course hospitals don't do Isolation...lol. Geez!

 

[Nutty Cortez]

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And you left wingers still think this clown could be presidential material?

Even Joe doesn't have that much blood on his hands.

Of course. he has a D after his name. That's all it takes.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Still it doesn't explain Cuomo's fatal decision...Why did he mandate patients with Covid-19 to be with high risk elderly.

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio said Monday the ship's arrival means his city is "going to be able to do the life-saving work right now,” as “750 beds will be put into play immediately to relieve the pressure on our hospital system.”

USNS Comfort hospital ship arrives in New York harbor amid ...

USNS Comfort hospital ship arrives in New York harbor amid coronavirus outbreak

The USNS Comfort has arrived Monday at the front lines of the coronavirus outbreak in the United States, bringing a message to all New Yorkers that the Navy is "with you" and "remains committed in this fight," Rear Adm. John Mustin says.

www.foxnews.com

How USNS Comfort went from a symbol of hope with the president's blessing, to heading back from NYC having treated fewer than 180 patients

The Navy hospital ship arrived in New York City to great fanfare. Less than a month later, it is being sent home to Virginia.

www.businessinsider.com

The mandate was the 25th and the ship arrived ready on the 30th according DeBlasio, that could have saved thousands.

Again, where do you think infected nursing home patients should have gone in lieu of nursing homes?

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

If you only used it as a "step down" facility for recovering covid-19 patients who were being discharged from acute care facilities. and let them finish their recovery there with other recovering covid-19 patients, rather than sending them to a long term care facility where they would be intermingled with non-covid-19 patients, the "cramped quarters" argument is moot. This isn't rocket science. But I only worked for 20 years in hospital administration, so what do I know. Obviously Cuomo is way smarter than me.

I seem to remember you demanding this when the Navy was saying they would only accept non-COVID patients.

Just kidding!

;-)

 

[Spamature]

If you only used it as a "step down" facility for recovering covid-19 patients who were being discharged from acute care facilities. and let them finish their recovery there with other recovering covid-19 patients, rather than sending them to a long term care facility where they would be intermingled with non-covid-19 patients, the "cramped quarters" argument is moot. This isn't rocket science. But I only worked for 20 years in hospital administration, so what do I know. Obviously Cuomo is way smarter than me.

Why is cramped quarter moot ? Isn't that where the virus spreads best ?

 

[Spamature]

You are wrong. Of course hospitals do isolation. NO excuses for what Cuomo did. By sending the elderly, sick patients back into those nursing homes and NOT providing the PPE necessary to protect the staff and residents he failed all of them. Cuomo is guilty.

Well if someone hadn't ignored the "bare cupboards" and instead spent lavishly on useless wall to keep diseases out. Then maybe there would have been enough PPE.

If blood 7000 are on Cuomo's hand then the blood of the current 100k and the coming untold number of dead or disabled are on the hands of the fool who not only did not prepare, but the same fool who activitely dismantled our ability to respond quickly.

But he's doing the best he can and the media still picks on him, Whaaaa !

 

[Spamature]

It's sad that all you and Cuomo can do is make up crap.

Isolation units in hospitals
isolation unit. A hospital unit in which patients suffering from communicable diseases may be separated from other patients.
Isolation unit | definition of isolation unit by Medical ...
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medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/isolation+unit

Of course hospitals don't do Isolation...lol. Geez!

Not in the numbers and for the amount of time they would have needed to be quarantined.

How are you people not getting this. The hospital were swamped just trying to save lives. Which is the reason they had to be sent to the nursing homes in the first place.

OMG.... You really needed someone to tell you that, eh ?

 

[Drumcollie]

Again, where do you think infected nursing home patients should have gone in lieu of nursing homes?

Isolation...Like in Hospitals

Isolation units in hospitals
isolation unit. A hospital unit in which patients suffering from communicable diseases may be separated from other patients.
Isolation unit | definition of isolation unit by Medical ...

medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/isolation+unit

Where the hell did you think they should go In a place where you keep high risk places?

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Isolation...Like in Hospitals

Isolation units in hospitals
isolation unit. A hospital unit in which patients suffering from communicable diseases may be separated from other patients.
Isolation unit | definition of isolation unit by Medical ...
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medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/isolation+unit

Where the hell did you think they should go In a place where you keep high risk places?

I’m sure you checked on the availability of such “isolation units” for the elderly in NY before yapping about them

Let’s see your research.

 

[EatTheRich]

Cuomo intentionally killed over 7,000 elderly people with his homicidally insane order.

That’s insane, got any evidence for that?

 

[Drumcollie]

I’m sure you checked on the availability of such “isolation units” for the elderly in NY before yapping about them

Let’s see your research.

And I am sure Cuomo didn't...Blood on his hands.

 

[Drumcollie]

That’s insane, got any evidence for that?

It's called a top post by a non Democrat.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Why is cramped quarter moot ? Isn't that where the virus spreads best ?

Learn to read! If you only put recovering covid-19 patients in there, how is "spreading" going to be a problem?

 

[Raoul_Luke]

I seem to remember you demanding this when the Navy was saying they would only accept non-COVID patients.

Just kidding!

;-)

Well yes, it is a really really good idea, so thanks for admitting that. You think it just suddenly dawned on me? As soon as I learned of the decimation of nursing home residents, my first thought was - why would you not keep them isolated by designating some facilities covid-only?

It wasn't my decision to make, and I wasn't aware that they were instead sending them into nursing homes without any plans whatsoever to isolate them. If I had been the one making the decision instead of Cuomo. that's how I would have handled it. In New York, they had these ready made solutions in the ship and Javits center, neither of which was used, and Cuomo, the savior of the democratic party, looks like a complete dunce for handling it the way he did.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Well yes, it is a really really good idea, so thanks for admitting that. You think it just suddenly dawned on me? As soon as I learned of the decimation of nursing home residents, my first thought was - why would you not keep them isolated by designating some facilities covid-only?

It wasn't my decision to make, and I wasn't aware that they were instead sending them into nursing homes without any plans whatsoever to isolate them. If I had been the one making the decision instead of Cuomo. that's how I would have handled it. In New York, they had these ready made solutions in the ship and Javits center, neither of which was used, and Cuomo, the savior of the democratic party, looks like a complete dunce for handling it the way he did.

Then your beef should be with the Navy - they refused to accept COVID patients on the Comfort until the crisis peak had passed.

Bottom line - like most wingers you’re good at carping, but you don’t propose a viable alternative.