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middleview

President
Supporting Member
Win or lose, the FBI still testified under oath in a court of law that the Steele Dossier was NEVER VERIFIED....

Making all FISA warrants fraudelent.
Here is the IG report. There were 7 issues he identified in the first application.

1. Page's previous cooperation with the CIA in 2013 was omitted.
2. He said the application "overstated" the fact that Steele had previously provided evidence in a criminal proceeding.
3. Ommitted info about how reliable one of Steele's sources was.
4. The FBI assessment that Steele had not provided info to Yahoo news was incorrect.
5. Omitted a statement from Papadopoulos that nobody in the Trump campaign was collaborating with the Russians.
6. Omitted Page's statement that he had never spoken to Manafort.
7. Selectively included Page's statements to a CHS in October that supported the FBI belief that Page was working as an agent of Russia, but did not include statements by Page denying he even knew Sechin or Divyekin.


1. So what? What he did in 2013 was irrelevant to what he had done in 2016.
2. Oh no...they overstated Steele's cooperation in another investigation....sheesh.
3. So?
4. So Steele lied about providing info to Yahoo. How does that mean that no surveillance of Page was needed?
5. Really? So the person accused of a crime denies he committed a crime....like that never happens.
6. Again, so what?
7. Page claimed he was an advisor to the Kremlin. Page lied about meeting with Divyekin and, though he didn't meet Sechin, he did meet with Sechin's number two. Page also lied about meeting with Kislyak, the Russian ambassador.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
You seem to think you should be informed of everything our military and CIA do when confronted by an issue like this.

U-2 Spy Planes Snooped On Chinese Surveillance Balloon


Instead you want to use your own ignorance as evidence of not just your own accusations aimed at BIden, but also our own military and intelligence experts.
When Trump abandoned the Kurds in northern Syria, General Mattis resigned. Don't you think members of our military, if informed of a complete failure of our leadership to respond to a threat, would have resigned in protest?
Thread jacking again lil' fella

WTF does that have to do with the Chinese balloon Joey let drift across America for 7 damn days?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Thread jacking again lil' fella

WTF does that have to do with the Chinese balloon Joey let drift across America for 7 damn days?
Damn...you really don't see the link between the balloon and U2s tracking it and jamming it? Wow.
 

condorkristy

Mostly Liberal
Nothing for you since you're not smart enough to know the difference of an 11 miles slow speed flyover, versus a 350 mile high speed flyover, versus standing at a fence where buildings and barriers are blocking your view. I'd rather converse with someone that can speak intelligently about it.
First you say that the lower flyover was best.....when they could just drive right up to it....can't get much lower than that. Now you're saying that a 350 mile high flyover would be worse yet somehow that is pretty much how GPS works (narrowing your location down to a few meters?

Yeah, you should converse with someone on your level...go find a brick wall to talk to. Although I think you'll be outsmarted by it.
 

protectionist

Governor
Yep. Shot down where there was no risk of debris injuring civilians or damaging property. Much greater chance of recovering some of the payload intact with a water landing too. Our military/intelligence services knew what it was and they are not devulging any military/intelligence secrets just because of crackpot civilians criticizing Joe Biden. Current and former Senators, House Reps, Cabinet Secretaries and Presidential Advisors with security clearance know that too.
See Post # 6.
 
Here is the IG report. There were 7 issues he identified in the first application.

1. Page's previous cooperation with the CIA in 2013 was omitted.
2. He said the application "overstated" the fact that Steele had previously provided evidence in a criminal proceeding.
3. Ommitted info about how reliable one of Steele's sources was.
4. The FBI assessment that Steele had not provided info to Yahoo news was incorrect.
5. Omitted a statement from Papadopoulos that nobody in the Trump campaign was collaborating with the Russians.
6. Omitted Page's statement that he had never spoken to Manafort.
7. Selectively included Page's statements to a CHS in October that supported the FBI belief that Page was working as an agent of Russia, but did not include statements by Page denying he even knew Sechin or Divyekin.


1. So what? What he did in 2013 was irrelevant to what he had done in 2016.
2. Oh no...they overstated Steele's cooperation in another investigation....sheesh.
3. So?
4. So Steele lied about providing info to Yahoo. How does that mean that no surveillance of Page was needed?
5. Really? So the person accused of a crime denies he committed a crime....like that never happens.
6. Again, so what?
7. Page claimed he was an advisor to the Kremlin. Page lied about meeting with Divyekin and, though he didn't meet Sechin, he did meet with Sechin's number two. Page also lied about meeting with Kislyak, the Russian ambassador.
As you have been told a billion times and can look up, the IG was limited in his purview of what he could look at during his investigation. In other words, because you are either lying or fail to grasp this concept, he could not review the process for ALL the FISA warrants applied for.

Surviellance of Page was not needed nor did they even give a shit about Page it was about being able to backdoor themselves into the Trump Campaign. To review again, information that you have been given countless times and have ignored and kept lying..... once you have a FISA warrant you can grab all the communications of the person the warrant is for, and ALL the communications of anyone he communcated with..... which put the FBI into the Trump Campaign.

Steele Dossier was made up by a guy at the Brookings Institute and his drunk Russian friends who littered it with enough public knowledge to keep Steele paying them. The FBI offered Steele 1 million dollars to prove any of it, and HE COULD NOT DO IT......, and as you have been told, testimony during Durhams last court case the FBI testified under oath that the STEELE DOSSIER WAS never VERIFIED, making every FISA Warrant they got with it......... wait for it....... FRAUDELENT.....

Please post more outdated and debunked information below.
 
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middleview

President
Supporting Member
As you have been told a billion times and can look up, the IG was limited in his purview of what he could look at during his investigation. In other words, because you are either lying or fail to grasp this concept, he could not review the process for ALL the FISA warrants applied for.

Surviellance of Page was not needed nor did they even give a shit about Page it was about being able to backdoor themselves into the Trump Campaign. To review again, information that you have been given countless times and have ignored and kept lying..... once you have a FISA warrant you can grab all the communications of the person the warrant is for, and ALL the communications of anyone he communcated with..... which put the FBI into the Trump Campaign.

Steele Dossier was made up by a guy at the Brookings Institute and his drunk Russian friends who littered it with enough public knowledge to keep Steele paying them. The FBI offered Steele 1 million dollars to prove any of it, and HE COULD NOT DO IT......, and as you have been told, testimony during Durhams last court case the FBI testified under oath that the STEELE DOSSIER WAS never VERIFIED, making every FISA Warrant they got with it......... wait for it....... FRAUDELENT.....

Please post more outdated and debunked information below.
The link I provided shows the first FISA application was reviewed by the IG. Why lie.
Keep pushing your opinions as if they are facts...it's all you have.
 
The link I provided shows the first FISA application was reviewed by the IG. Why lie.
Keep pushing your opinions as if they are facts...it's all you have.
Great question, why are you lying? FISA application was reviewed by the IG, which one? All of them..... No.... because he could not look at all of them...

Keep lying for the dirtbags you worship.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Great question, why are you lying? FISA application was reviewed by the IG, which one? All of them..... No.... because he could not look at all of them...

Keep lying for the dirtbags you worship.
Holy shit...I provided the report that shows the IG did review all of them...yet you continue to deny the facts.

Where is your link to any supporting source?
 
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