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Clock starts ticking on $454 million judgment against Trump for his fraud

Jack4freedom

Governor
Who did Trump defraud?

Who are the victims getting the $440M?
Lets say I owned a 2500 sq ft home in LA which was unencumbered and I wanted to take out a loan against it. Then I presented to the bank a document which stated that home was 7500 sq ft and was worth 3 times as much as it really was and got a much better loan because it was way lower risk. Then, when it came time to pay property taxes on that same property, I paid them according to the real value on that property.

I could take all the money lent to me, buy three or four more properties with that money and pay the loan off with what I made from those properties. Back in the day, people used to create documents like that all the time. That’s the kind of stuff Trump and his crooked company has been pulling for decades on end.

Problem is for Trump, New York State passed a bunch of really strict punitive laws against falsifying loan applications and stuff like that. Then when this whole Stormy Daniels deal hit the fan, Trump tried to lay the whole deal off on his personal lawyer Michael Cohen and threw him under the bus for following his orders.

Cohen then, realizing Trump was a gutless scumbag pleaded guilty and decided to cooperate with the investigation about paying off a porn star for election purposes. In his cooperation with state and federal prosecutors revealed that Trump and his whole outfit was involved in illegal and sleazy schemes like falsifying documents to lenders, insurance companies, tax boards etc.

That prompted the NY State Attorney General to investigate Trump’s business records to look for just the kind of fraud Cohen had reported to them. Well, guess what? The AG found hundreds of instances of fraud and other irregularities and decided to sue Trump for fraud against the State of New York.

Trump hired a few morons to defend him and answer the law suit. These morons did not ask for a jury trial and Trump did not respond to certain filings and thus was found liable for massive fraud. Then idiot that he is Trump mouthed off to and insulted the judge who presided over the case and made a total jackass of himself in court.

Now that judge, after seeing, reading and listening to all the evidence provided by the State AG has legally fined Trump $375 million. I guess the lesson here is, don’t file phony self serving documents and if you get caught, hire lawyers who know what the fvck they are doing, then if found liable, refrain from mouthing off to, insulting and threatening the judge. It’s one thing to pull smart ass stuff like this, but you should always check current laws and stuff before trying it. See what I’m saying Mr. B?
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
What opinion? It was a verdict dictated by a Marxist judge in NY who was hell bent on interfering if democracy through hook or crook.

BTW: It is noted that you could not name a victim who Trump defrauded because there was no one.
You refuse to read the opinion and then simply repeat the same idiocy. You seem proud of your ignorance.
 

worldlymrb

Revenge
Lets say I owned a 2500 sq ft home in LA which was unencumbered and I wanted to take out a loan against it. Then I presented to the bank a document which stated that home was 7500 sq ft and was worth 3 times as much as it really was and got a much better loan because it was way lower risk. Then, when it came time to pay property taxes on that same property, I paid them according to the real value on that property.

I could take all the money lent to me, buy three or four more properties with that money and pay the loan off with what I made from those properties. Back in the day, people used to create documents like that all the time. That’s the kind of stuff Trump and his crooked company has been pulling for decades on end.

Problem is for Trump, New York State passed a bunch of really strict punitive laws against falsifying loan applications and stuff like that. Then when this whole Stormy Daniels deal hit the fan, Trump tried to lay the whole deal off on his personal lawyer Michael Cohen and threw him under the bus for following his orders.

Cohen then, realizing Trump was a gutless scumbag pleaded guilty and decided to cooperate with the investigation about paying off a porn star for election purposes. In his cooperation with state and federal prosecutors revealed that Trump and his whole outfit was involved in illegal and sleazy schemes like falsifying documents to lenders, insurance companies, tax boards etc.

That prompted the NY State Attorney General to investigate Trump’s business records to look for just the kind of fraud Cohen had reported to them. Well, guess what? The AG found hundreds of instances of fraud and other irregularities and decided to sue Trump for fraud against the State of New York.

Trump hired a few morons to defend him and answer the law suit. These morons did not ask for a jury trial and Trump did not respond to certain filings and thus was found liable for massive fraud. Then idiot that he is Trump mouthed off to and insulted the judge who presided over the case and made a total jackass of himself in court.

Now that judge, after seeing, reading and listening to all the evidence provided by the State AG has legally fined Trump $375 million. I guess the lesson here is, don’t file phony self serving documents and if you get caught, hire lawyers who know what the fvck they are doing, then if found liable, refrain from mouthing off to, insulting and threatening the judge. It’s one thing to pull smart ass stuff like this, but you should always check current laws and stuff before trying it. See what I’m saying Mr. B?
Is the judge a licensed Real Estate assessor, Yes or no?

Also, the bank who lended Trump the loan (that was paid off years ago), admitted in court that was common practice and their owned assessments concurred with Trump.
 
What opinion? It was a verdict dictated by a Marxist judge in NY who was hell bent on interfering if democracy through hook or crook.

BTW: It is noted that you could not name a victim who Trump defrauded because there was no one.
Verdict by a court of Law in New York United States of America...We are country of laws..You are stupid trump bootlicker
 

worldlymrb

Revenge
You refuse to read the opinion and then simply repeat the same idiocy. You seem proud of your ignorance.
There was no opinion. It was a verdict dictated by a corrupt Marxist judge desperately trying to overthrow democracy.

You still can’t name a victim? Why is that?

Any normal person can see there was NO VICTIM and proves it was frivolous civil lawsuit initiated by a corrupt democrat DA trying to shakedown their political opponent and interfere in 2024 election.
 
There was no opinion. It was a verdict dictated by a corrupt Marxist judge desperately trying to overthrow democracy.

You still can’t name a victim? Why is that?

Any normal person can see there was NO VICTIM and proves it was frivolous civil lawsuit initiated by a corrupt democrat DA trying to shakedown their political opponent and interfere in 2024 election.
trump still going to have to pay.He needs money, get off your fat ass and send him some...DO IT DO IT NOW!
 

Jack4freedom

Governor
Is the judge a licensed Real Estate assessor, Yes or no?

Also, the bank who lended Trump the loan (that was paid off years ago), admitted in court that was common practice and their owned assessments concurred with Trump.
Not sure if the judge is a licensed real estate appraiser or not but I suspect he is not. We are not talking about one bank, one loan, one insurance company, one tax accessor, one building here Mr. B. From what I understand this case involves years of allegedly fraudulent practice and hundreds, if not thousands of fraudulent documents submitted by Trump over the years.

Evidently, after years of being stonewalled by Trump and his legal team, the AGs office obtained and provided documented evidence of fraud to the court which was strong enough to find Trump liable for massive fraud against the state of New York. I have not read the court transcripts or the judge’s ruling yet, (and probably never will) but if you are interested in finding out how the judge came to his conclusion that Trump had committed fraud and how he came to set the fine and reimbursement amount I am pretty sure that this info can be publicly accessed on the internet. I am positive that Trump’s lawyers are going over all of that material right now in preparation for the filing of their appeal of the judgement against him. That’s how our court system operates here in America.

Cheers
 

Jack4freedom

Governor
There was no opinion. It was a verdict dictated by a corrupt Marxist judge desperately trying to overthrow democracy.

You still can’t name a victim? Why is that?

Any normal person can see there was NO VICTIM and proves it was frivolous civil lawsuit initiated by a corrupt democrat DA trying to shakedown their political opponent and interfere in 2024 election.
That kind of baseless crap will not help Trump in his appeal of the judgement against him Mr. B. Calling the judge a corrupt Marxist will have no bearing on this case as it pertains to getting the judgement set aside or reduced. The issues here are more complicated and subtle. The whole attitude you (and Trump) have expressed above are a big part of the reason that Trump finds himself in the series of major jackpots he is in right now. This type of thought pattern will never be successful in actual courts of law. Thank god we have a system based on evidence and law rather than just letting the guy with the biggest mouth and the most money prevail. See what I’m talking about sir?
 

EatTheRich

President
What opinion? It was a verdict dictated by a Marxist judge in NY who was hell bent on interfering if democracy through hook or crook.

BTW: It is noted that you could not name a victim who Trump defrauded because there was no one.
A few points of information: 1. Marxists are the most consistent friends of democracy. 2. For that reason, the ruling elites do not permit Marxists to become judges in the United States. 3. Blatantly lying to banks to get better loan terms is and always has been illegal.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
There was no opinion. It was a verdict dictated by a corrupt Marxist judge desperately trying to overthrow democracy.

You still can’t name a victim? Why is that?

Any normal person can see there was NO VICTIM and proves it was frivolous civil lawsuit initiated by a corrupt democrat DA trying to shakedown their political opponent and interfere in 2024 election.
FYI, you only think there were no victims because you refuse to read the opinion. Even more bizarre, you say “there was no opinion.”

You thrive on ignorance.

Here’s the opinion should you ever wish to reduce your ignorance…

 
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