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COVID polling shows that Democrats are very wrong on COVID

Mr. Friscus

Governor

First, here's the statistic: The Chances somebody with COVID must be hospitalized is 1-5%. That's factual data.

Now, let's look at what Democrats, Republicans, and independent people think

Those who are correct in thinking it is 1-5%?
26% Republicans
20% Independents
10% Democrats

And those who are WAYYYY off and think 50% or more of people with COVID end up hospitalized?
Democrats 41%
Independents 35%
Republicans 28%

That's an incredible stat. Despite reality being 1-5%, 41% of Democrats think it's 50% or above. 69% of Democrats think 20% or more who get COVID are hospitalized.

Of course, this is because the US Media has terrorized the populace with non-stop fear porn, blaring that if you get COVID, you're gonna die. From the same article, 90% of US Major media outlet stories about COVID are negative in tone compared to 54% for non-US major sources, and 65% of scientific journals.

The US Media is in the business of scaring you, and clearly out of all of us the Democrats have been conned the most.. hook, line, and sinker.

So, to Democrats on here.. why do your ilk have this so catastrophically wrong? I would assume it's because those who are consoled and supported on a nightly basis by the major media outlets become far less likely to question them when they say bold proclamations.

If we want to talk about "disinformation", as leftist news outlets often do, pointing the finger at the few right wing outlets... well, this takes the cake, and it's just one of many mainstream instances of the leftist media institution peddling false reality.
 

First, here's the statistic: The Chances somebody with COVID must be hospitalized is 1-5%. That's factual data.
No. That is not factual data. If you read the article you would have seen that number is noted to be an estimate.

Doesn't even say what the estimate is based on.
 

Mick

The Right is always right

First, here's the statistic: The Chances somebody with COVID must be hospitalized is 1-5%. That's factual data.

Now, let's look at what Democrats, Republicans, and independent people think

Those who are correct in thinking it is 1-5%?
26% Republicans
20% Independents
10% Democrats

And those who are WAYYYY off and think 50% or more of people with COVID end up hospitalized?
Democrats 41%
Independents 35%
Republicans 28%

That's an incredible stat. Despite reality being 1-5%, 41% of Democrats think it's 50% or above. 69% of Democrats think 20% or more who get COVID are hospitalized.

Of course, this is because the US Media has terrorized the populace with non-stop fear porn, blaring that if you get COVID, you're gonna die. From the same article, 90% of US Major media outlet stories about COVID are negative in tone compared to 54% for non-US major sources, and 65% of scientific journals.

The US Media is in the business of scaring you, and clearly out of all of us the Democrats have been conned the most.. hook, line, and sinker.

So, to Democrats on here.. why do your ilk have this so catastrophically wrong? I would assume it's because those who are consoled and supported on a nightly basis by the major media outlets become far less likely to question them when they say bold proclamations.

If we want to talk about "disinformation", as leftist news outlets often do, pointing the finger at the few right wing outlets... well, this takes the cake, and it's just one of many mainstream instances of the leftist media institution peddling false reality.
Why do you think these fools have bungled this from the beginning?
 

RickWA

Senator

First, here's the statistic: The Chances somebody with COVID must be hospitalized is 1-5%. That's factual data.

Now, let's look at what Democrats, Republicans, and independent people think

Those who are correct in thinking it is 1-5%?
26% Republicans
20% Independents
10% Democrats

And those who are WAYYYY off and think 50% or more of people with COVID end up hospitalized?
Democrats 41%
Independents 35%
Republicans 28%

That's an incredible stat. Despite reality being 1-5%, 41% of Democrats think it's 50% or above. 69% of Democrats think 20% or more who get COVID are hospitalized.

Of course, this is because the US Media has terrorized the populace with non-stop fear porn, blaring that if you get COVID, you're gonna die. From the same article, 90% of US Major media outlet stories about COVID are negative in tone compared to 54% for non-US major sources, and 65% of scientific journals.

The US Media is in the business of scaring you, and clearly out of all of us the Democrats have been conned the most.. hook, line, and sinker.

So, to Democrats on here.. why do your ilk have this so catastrophically wrong? I would assume it's because those who are consoled and supported on a nightly basis by the major media outlets become far less likely to question them when they say bold proclamations.

If we want to talk about "disinformation", as leftist news outlets often do, pointing the finger at the few right wing outlets... well, this takes the cake, and it's just one of many mainstream instances of the leftist media institution peddling false reality.
Fascinating. The info you posted seems to have elicited deep, introspective self-reflection and sincere examination.

...No...wait...
 
Fascinating. The info you posted seems to have elicited deep, introspective self-reflection and sincere examination.

...No...wait...
Shall we take a direct quote from the article posted above:
"Researchers involved in the Franklin Templeton/Gallup study asked Americans in December what “percentage of people who have been infected by the coronavirus needed to be hospitalized.” The correct answer is not precisely known, the authors note, but the best available estimates place the figure between 1 and 5 percent."

So what makes their estimates better than anyone elses?
 

RickWA

Senator
Shall we take a direct quote from the article posted above:
"Researchers involved in the Franklin Templeton/Gallup study asked Americans in December what “percentage of people who have been infected by the coronavirus needed to be hospitalized.” The correct answer is not precisely known, the authors note, but the best available estimates place the figure between 1 and 5 percent."

So what makes their estimates better than anyone elses?
Indeed “1 to 5 percent” is imprecise. Not a math major, dare I presume? The fact remains that a certain demographic is very wildly off the mark.

If one is going to attempt to nitpick in order to avoid all introspection, he ought not suck at it.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Indeed “1 to 5 percent” is imprecise. Not a math major, dare I presume? The fact remains that a certain demographic is very wildly off the mark.

If one is going to attempt to nitpick in order to avoid all introspection, he ought not suck at it.
It's cool.nthe other poster will provide precise answers seemingly from now on...
 

Bugsy McGurk

President

First, here's the statistic: The Chances somebody with COVID must be hospitalized is 1-5%. That's factual data.

Now, let's look at what Democrats, Republicans, and independent people think

Those who are correct in thinking it is 1-5%?
26% Republicans
20% Independents
10% Democrats

And those who are WAYYYY off and think 50% or more of people with COVID end up hospitalized?
Democrats 41%
Independents 35%
Republicans 28%

That's an incredible stat. Despite reality being 1-5%, 41% of Democrats think it's 50% or above. 69% of Democrats think 20% or more who get COVID are hospitalized.

Of course, this is because the US Media has terrorized the populace with non-stop fear porn, blaring that if you get COVID, you're gonna die. From the same article, 90% of US Major media outlet stories about COVID are negative in tone compared to 54% for non-US major sources, and 65% of scientific journals.

The US Media is in the business of scaring you, and clearly out of all of us the Democrats have been conned the most.. hook, line, and sinker.

So, to Democrats on here.. why do your ilk have this so catastrophically wrong? I would assume it's because those who are consoled and supported on a nightly basis by the major media outlets become far less likely to question them when they say bold proclamations.

If we want to talk about "disinformation", as leftist news outlets often do, pointing the finger at the few right wing outlets... well, this takes the cake, and it's just one of many mainstream instances of the leftist media institution peddling false reality.
Crikey. What a useless mess.

Example....”1-5%” of those infected with Covid are hospitalized? That’s “factual data”?

Sheesh.
 

SW48

Administrator
Staff member
Supporting Member

First, here's the statistic: The Chances somebody with COVID must be hospitalized is 1-5%. That's factual data.

Now, let's look at what Democrats, Republicans, and independent people think

Those who are correct in thinking it is 1-5%?
26% Republicans
20% Independents
10% Democrats

And those who are WAYYYY off and think 50% or more of people with COVID end up hospitalized?
Democrats 41%
Independents 35%
Republicans 28%

That's an incredible stat. Despite reality being 1-5%, 41% of Democrats think it's 50% or above. 69% of Democrats think 20% or more who get COVID are hospitalized.

Of course, this is because the US Media has terrorized the populace with non-stop fear porn, blaring that if you get COVID, you're gonna die. From the same article, 90% of US Major media outlet stories about COVID are negative in tone compared to 54% for non-US major sources, and 65% of scientific journals.

The US Media is in the business of scaring you, and clearly out of all of us the Democrats have been conned the most.. hook, line, and sinker.

So, to Democrats on here.. why do your ilk have this so catastrophically wrong? I would assume it's because those who are consoled and supported on a nightly basis by the major media outlets become far less likely to question them when they say bold proclamations.

If we want to talk about "disinformation", as leftist news outlets often do, pointing the finger at the few right wing outlets... well, this takes the cake, and it's just one of many mainstream instances of the leftist media institution peddling false reality.

There is no doubt democrats think the sky is falling and more republicans still think "its just the flu".

In reality covid affects different people differently. In the softball world we just lost the greatest women's slugger of all time to covid. She went to vegas to a tournament and her and six members of her team got it. She died of heart failure in her sleep. Covid shortened her life. This was 3 weeks ago.

We have another player that has been in the hospital for 3 weeks, medically induced coma, tracheotomy, and has a 50/50 chance to live. This is currently going on.

We have a sponsor that died at 68, no real underlying conditions. That was in December

And we have another sponsor that was on his death bed until they gave him rendesevere or whatever it is called and he lived and is now on oxygen the rest of his life. That was in November.

Another player 38 years old with zero underlying conditions was in critical condition in the ICU when they gave him hydroxychloroquine and he survived and is doing well. That was month ago.
 

RickWA

Senator
What is the mark?
they don't know, they are just guessing. 1-5% is just a guess.
1-5% constitutes a mathematically wide range...right? In fact, that wide range is specifically referenced in the piece. Somehow, you attempt to leverage this as mitigating to the fact that a certain demographic is profoundly, wildly off-base...by orders of magnitude... cuz... self-reflection and humility and stuff...

Whatever, dude. Your credibility is well-understood. Gadfly on to your heart’s content. There is no substantive basis for your ongoing nonsense, but have at it.
 

RickWA

Senator
Crikey. What a useless mess.

Example....”1-5%” of those infected with Covid are hospitalized? That’s “factual data”?

Sheesh.
Another leftist dodging the FACT of a certain demographic being consistently...wildly off-base in esteeming hospital figures. Way, WAYYYY off-base. Not a syllable dedicated to that.

But...ya know...truth and decency and good faith and such...
 
1-5% constitutes a mathematically wide range...right? In fact, that wide range is specifically referenced in the piece. Somehow, you attempt to leverage this as mitigating to the fact that a certain demographic is profoundly, wildly off-base...by orders of magnitude... cuz... self-reflection and humility and stuff...

Whatever, dude. Your credibility is well-understood. Gadfly on to your heart’s content. There is no substantive basis for your ongoing nonsense, but have at it.
That range is still just an estimate based on nothing. How can you say its off base when you are still just estimating?
 
That's why it's called an estimate.

Like I said ..you'll be providing precision numbers going forward
The top post doesn't refer to it as an estimate. It refers to it as a fact.

I will use estimates as I see fit. I just won't call them facts, when they are in fact just their best guess.
Someone estimated 50% of the infected end up in hospital, some estimated 1-5%. Both are estimates. Not facts.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
The top post doesn't refer to it as an estimate. It refers to it as a fact.

I will use estimates as I see fit. I just won't call them facts, when they are in fact just their best guess.
Someone estimated 50% of the infected end up in hospital, some estimated 1-5%. Both are estimates. Not facts.
Cool. The reference calls it an estimate
 
Cool. The reference calls it an estimate
alright, so now we established it to be an estimate, how you do know the people who thought 50% of infected ended up in the hospital? When the article says they don't actually know how many of the infected actually end up in the hospital.
 
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