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Cowardly NATO watches as Russia decimates Ukrainian infrastructure.

Bugsy McGurk

President
I think you summed it up precisely. They are, in fact doing both (or either) too much or too little - too much to force the Ukrainians to the bargaining table, and too little to force the Russians there. And while the war rages on, the fatcats that own the MIC are making hundreds of billions. I think we know whose side the left is on here...
My questions summed nothing. They are questions. Which you dodged. As always.

Carp on.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Such as the kinds that we've been discussing now since February of this year. Go back to one of our exchanges and figure it out.
If you want an honest discussion you should just answer the question instead of telling people to read your old posts and guess.

If.
 

RickWA

Senator
You right-wingers don't do nuance.
There is a fine-line here we need to walk, where Ukraine has the tools to succeed without creating a broader conflict.

And Biden has been doing that to perfection.
Excellent - in addition to “masterful” and “remarkable”, DNC cultist lefty adds “perfection” to his political leaders’ list of attributes. Yep, these leftists are normal

:-/
 
Get your ass over there and fight or shut up about your willingness to let others suffer for your back seat warrior bullshit.
Remember in 2016 right after Brexit and y'all wouldn't shut the f*ck up about "sovereignty".
Now y'all conveniently don't give a sh*t about Ukraine's sovereignty.
 

God of War

Governor
Remember in 2016 right after Brexit and y'all wouldn't shut the f*ck up about "sovereignty".

Now y'all conveniently don't give a sh*t about Ukraine's sovereignty.
Apples and oranges and you know it. And still after Brexit the UK can't shut it down with all that Islamic and African migration. The Tories let Europe walk all over them just like our punk ass GOP does here with Dems and our border. We need to have a real serious conversation very soon.
 

EatTheRich

President
I think you summed it up precisely. They are, in fact doing both (or either) too much or too little - too much to force the Ukrainians to the bargaining table, and too little to force the Russians there. And while the war rages on, the fatcats that own the MIC are making hundreds of billions. I think we know whose side the left is on here...
The side of self-determination, peace, and internationalist solidarity, of course.
 

EatTheRich

President
40% of the country lies in darkness. No gas no heat no light. The capital city Kyiv is 70% in darkness.

NATO should directly intercede. Meaning enter Ukraine, and put a stop to the aerial bombardment with defensive measures
That would probably mean nuclear weapons flying.
 

God of War

Governor
The Communist Party became a lot less Jewish and Ukrainian and a lot more ethnic Russian as Stalin took over, iirc. Why the ethnic reference?
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
You right-wingers don't do nuance.
There is a fine-line here we need to walk, where Ukraine has the tools to succeed without creating a broader conflict.

And Biden has been doing that to perfection.
That's [Unwelcome language removed] as retarded as it gets.

To perfection if your meaning is to not inconvenience er discomfit the west and NATO too much..
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
You right-wingers don't do nuance.
There is a fine-line here we need to walk, where Ukraine has the tools to succeed without creating a broader conflict.

And Biden has been doing that to perfection.
"perfection" like the $10,000 student loan forgiveness

You will not get :cool:
perfecto
 
Apples and oranges and you know it. And still after Brexit the UK can't shut it down with all that Islamic and African migration. The Tories let Europe walk all over them just like our punk ass GOP does here with Dems and our border. We need to have a real serious conversation very soon.
Russia literally wants to write Ukraine's constitution. And they are using violence as a means of achieving that.
That is the same sovereignty issue you were bitching and moaning about with the EU and the UK. Except the EU never resorted to violence.
 
That's [Unwelcome language removed] as retarded as it gets.

To perfection if your meaning is to not inconvenience er discomfit the west and NATO too much..
Yes, that is right. Don't overestimate the political support for Ukraine. People support weapons and monetary aid. They do not support boots on the ground.
He supported the Ukrainians without entering a broader conflict which would kill any and all political support for Ukraine.
 
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