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Democrats say Trump had nuclear codes. Republicans say the FBI planted evidence.

JohnJohnson

Council Member
Reality is both are neither true and that real truth is something in between. Likely there were documents listed as classified that Trump would have had the authority to declassify in any way he wanted while president existing now at Mar-a-Lago making this a non-issue and bad raid politically for Biden and Garland. Nothing more.

People, wake up.
 

EatTheRich

President
Reality is both are neither true and that real truth is something in between. Likely there were documents listed as classified that Trump would have had the authority to declassify in any way he wanted while president existing now at Mar-a-Lago making this a non-issue and bad raid politically for Biden and Garland. Nothing more.

People, wake up.
Likely there were materials he DIDN’T declassify by going through the legal process, and items he COULDN’T declassify as per the Atomic Secrets Act. Hence the warrant.
 

JohnJohnson

Council Member
Likely there were materials he DIDN’T declassify by going through the legal process, and items he COULDN’T declassify as per the Atomic Secrets Act. Hence the warrant.
There is no "process" and there were no nuclear codes. That's a fake story to provide cover just like the planting of evidence is a fake story. He can simply decide something is no longer classified. That's it. From January 20, 2017 to January 20, 2021 he was the only America with that full authority. There isn't an unelected bureaucrat out there can tell a President how, when, where, or why. The President tells the bureaucrats all of that and they must accept it.
 

EatTheRich

President
There is no "process" and there were no nuclear codes. That's a fake story to provide cover just like the planting of evidence is a fake story. He can simply decide something is no longer classified. That's it. From January 20, 2017 to January 20, 2021 he was the only America with that full authority. There isn't an unelected bureaucrat out there can tell a President how, when, where, or why. The President tells the bureaucrats all of that and they must accept it.
Not so. For one thing there has to be a written order.
 

write on

Senator
Reality is both are neither true and that real truth is something in between. Likely there were documents listed as classified that Trump would have had the authority to declassify in any way he wanted while president existing now at Mar-a-Lago making this a non-issue and bad raid politically for Biden and Garland. Nothing more.

People, wake up.
What does he have?

His cultists...

The world is laughing at us all the while watching us crumple.

Do you remember OBL? Or were you even born on 9/11?

No?

Let me refresh your memory.

Bin Laden, and his allies, knew that they could create strife in America.

He wrote about it before 9/11. Hell, he sat through a interview in a cave before 9/11



I don't have much tolerance for the willful ignorant.
 
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Reality is both are neither true and that real truth is something in between. Likely there were documents listed as classified that Trump would have had the authority to declassify in any way he wanted while president existing now at Mar-a-Lago making this a non-issue and bad raid politically for Biden and Garland. Nothing more.

People, wake up.
People are waking up John. If you read the search warrant and the list of documents taken, you would see that three serious crimes are alleged by “The People Of The USA” as represented by appointed US prosecutor. One of them has to do with espionage. In order to get that warrant approved, a judge had to sign off that there was probable cause to believe that those three serious crimes were committed and there was likely to be evidence of these crimes in Trump’s mansion. That’s how the law works. This ain’t no joke.
 
There is no "process" and there were no nuclear codes. That's a fake story to provide cover just like the planting of evidence is a fake story. He can simply decide something is no longer classified. That's it. From January 20, 2017 to January 20, 2021 he was the only America with that full authority. There isn't an unelected bureaucrat out there can tell a President how, when, where, or why. The President tells the bureaucrats all of that and they must accept it.
Of course there is a process to declassify top secret documents. Cabinet members and other officials in the appropriate departments consult with the President on these issues. Nobody said anything about “Nuclear Codes” but rather Top Secret documents involving nuclear weapons and locations thereof. Judging by what was alleged in the warrant, these were highly sensitive documents. You are being very blasé and naive here. This is no joke.
 
What does he have?

His cultists...

The world is laughing at us all the while watching us crumple.

Do you remember OBL? Or were you even born on 9/11?

No?

Let me refresh your memory.

Bin Laden, and his allies, knew that they could create strife in America.

He wrote about it before 9/11. Hell, he sat through a interview in a cave before 9/11



I don't have much tolerance for the willful ignorant.
Yep. They are laughing at us due to the stupidity of the Dems. From the PP tapes to the withdrawal from Afghanistan. Hardy har har.
 

JohnJohnson

Council Member
Of course there is a process to declassify top secret documents. Cabinet members and other officials in the appropriate departments consult with the President on these issues. Nobody said anything about “Nuclear Codes” but rather Top Secret documents involving nuclear weapons and locations thereof. Judging by what was alleged in the warrant, these were highly sensitive documents. You are being very blasé and naive here. This is no joke.

Some Democrats and their followers, with no evidence whatsoever, have been saying nuclear codes. That's untrue.

And, no, the only "process" to declassify documents is the process the President decides. There can be but there is no requirement for consultation with anyone on the matter. The President is the boss of the executive branch and the ultimate authority.

There was no planting evidence. There were no nuclear codes. There were documents that can be declassified, however.
 

EatTheRich

President
Some Democrats and their followers, with no evidence whatsoever, have been saying nuclear codes. That's untrue.

And, no, the only "process" to declassify documents is the process the President decides. There can be but there is no requirement for consultation with anyone on the matter. The President is the boss of the executive branch and the ultimate authority.

There was no planting evidence. There were no nuclear codes. There were documents that can be declassified, however.
If the documents have been declassified, they are marked as such. If the documents removed were marked classified, that proves the president did not declassify them. The search warrant approved by a Republican judge says they were likely to find, not nuclear codes, but secret nuclear weapons materials that had been illegally removed.
 
Some Democrats and their followers, with no evidence whatsoever, have been saying nuclear codes. That's untrue.

And, no, the only "process" to declassify documents is the process the President decides. There can be but there is no requirement for consultation with anyone on the matter. The President is the boss of the executive branch and the ultimate authority.

There was no planting evidence. There were no nuclear codes. There were documents that can be declassified, however.
Well it appears as if the DOJ produced evidence to a judge that clearly stated that there was probable cause to believe that several crimes were committed and evidence thereof was located in Trumps Palace. You obviously know nothing about what process is or is not required regarding the handling and declassification of top secret documents. You are just guessing. I would leave that to people who actually know about these laws like US Attorneys or FBI officials. The next major revelation will be when the document supporting the search warrant is released. Then we will find out exactly what led the authorities to believe that crimes occurred. It’s starting to get very interesting.
 
Some Democrats and their followers, with no evidence whatsoever, have been saying nuclear codes. That's untrue.

And, no, the only "process" to declassify documents is the process the President decides. There can be but there is no requirement for consultation with anyone on the matter. The President is the boss of the executive branch and the ultimate authority.

There was no planting evidence. There were no nuclear codes. There were documents that can be declassified, however.
Link and quote from law ...tia
 
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