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Do you think Obama is purposely destroying America?

Do you think Obama is purposely destroying America?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 50.0%
  • No

    Votes: 4 50.0%

  • Total voters
    8
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Deleted member 21794

Guest
There's no question about it. Obama simply does not like the United States of America. People who don't see that likely need psychiatric intervention.
 

LeilaniMP

Empress
There's no question about it. Obama simply does not like the United States of America. People who don't see that likely need psychiatric intervention.
It's obvious in so many things he does!

His followers are definitely delusional. Do you think it's from all the kook-aid?
 
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Deleted member 21794

Guest
It's obvious in so many things he does!

His followers are definitely delusional. Do you think it's from all the kook-aid?
Pretty much everything he does weakens the United States. He's hung out with America-haters for decades. What else should we believe?

As far as his followers, they're a tough lot to diagnose. My best guess is a combination of idiots, kook-aid drinkers and people who simply won't admit they've been wrong to support him.
 
Care to answer the subject of the TP and stop trying to derail the thread?
Derail the thread?!??

There is not much to a thread where you simply state that Obama is trying to destroy America, without providing so much as a SHRED of evidence, or even an argument, to support your wacky 'thesis'.

Maybe you should try to do that. Then you wouldn't look so silly.
 

LeilaniMP

Empress
Pretty much everything he does weakens the United States. He's hung out with America-haters for decades. What else should we believe?

As far as his followers, they're a tough lot to diagnose. My best guess is a combination of idiots, kook-aid drinkers and people who simply won't admit they've been wrong to support him.
Don't forget his great "Spiritual Advisor"
 

LeilaniMP

Empress
Derail the thread?!??

There is not much to a thread where you simply state that Obama is trying to destroy America, without providing so much as a SHRED of evidence, or even an argument, to support your wacky 'thesis'.

Maybe you should try to do that. Then you wouldn't look so silly.
I posted a poll, asking if people think he is purposely destroying America. It is linked to another poll, where people resoundingly agree with me, that he is.
 
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Deleted member 21794

Guest
Don't forget his great "Spiritual Advisor"
Yep, that's Obama's crowd. And it's hilarious watching liberals ask what Obama doing to destroy America. What, like $10 trillion in debt and a health care scam that is driving us closer to bankruptcy both strengthen the USA???
 
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Deleted member 21794

Guest
It would be fascinating to watch you try to document that very strange assertion.
Here, this wise man makes the case more eloquently than I ever could:

Does Obama hate America? Let's examine the evidence
Tuesday, February 24, 2015
Thomas Sowell - Guest Columnist

Barack Obama's campaign promise to "fundamentally change the United States of America" hardly suggests love.
The firestorm of denunciation of former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani, for having said that he did not think Barack Obama loved America, is in one sense out of all proportion to that remark -- especially at a time when there are much bigger issues, including wars raging, terrorist atrocities and a nuclear Iran on the horizon.

Against that background of strife and dangers on the world stage, it may seem as if Barack Obama's feelings, or Rudolph Giuliani's opinion about those feelings, should not matter so much, especially when it is hard to know with certainty how anyone feels. Yet when someone is the leader of a great nation at a historic juncture, it is more than idle curiosity to know what drives him.

It is not clear what the basis was for so much outrage at Mayor Giuliani's opinion about President Obama. Was it that what Giuliani said was demonstrably false? Was it that Barack Obama is supposed to be considered innocent until proven guilty?

Anyone who simply looks at the factual evidence as to whether Obama loves America, or does not, will find remarkably little to suggest love and a large amount of evidence, over a long period of years, showing his constant close association with people fiercely hostile to this country. Jeremiah Wright was just one in a long series of such people.

Barack Obama's campaign promise to "fundamentally change the United States of America" hardly suggests love. Nor did his international speaking tour in 2009, telling foreign audiences that America was to blame for problems on the world stage.

President Obama's record in the White House has been more of the same. Among his earliest acts were offending our oldest and closest allies, Britain and Israel, and betraying the country's previous commitments to provide anti-missile defenses to Poland and the Czech Republic.

Obama's refusal to let Ukraine have weapons with which to defend itself from Russian invasion was consistent with this pattern, and consistent with his whispered statement -- picked up by a microphone that was still on -- to tell "Vladimir" that, after the 2012 election was over, he would be able to "have more 'flexibility.'"

Conceivably, these might all have been simply blunders. But such a string of blunders would require someone very stupid, and Barack Obama is by no means stupid. The net effect is that in Europe, the Middle East and Asia, America's allies and America's interests face far more setbacks and dangers today than when Obama took office.

His policies have been publicly criticized by two of his own former Secretaries of Defense, by two retired four-star generals who served during his administration, and a retired four-star admiral who also served in the Middle East during the Obama administration has called his policies "anti-American."

Some people who are denouncing former mayor Rudolph Giuliani seem to be saying that it is just not right to accuse a President of the United States of being unpatriotic. But when Barack Obama was a senator, that is precisely what he said about President George W. Bush. Where was the outrage then?

If all else fails, critics of Mayor Giuliani can say that a man is entitled to be considered "innocent until proven guilty." But that principle applies in a court of law. Outside a court of law, there is no reason to presume anyone innocent until proven guilty. It is especially dangerous to presume a President of the United States -- any president -- innocent until proven guilty.

Whoever is president has the lives of hundreds of millions of Americans, and the fate of a nation, in his hands. It is those millions of people and that nation who deserve the benefit of the doubt. We need to err on the side of safety for the people and the country. Squeamish politeness to an individual cannot outweigh that.

We need to keep that in mind for the next president, and for all future presidents. We might have been better off if the question of Obama's patriotism had been raised before he was first elected. Never should we ignore so many red flag warnings again.

There is little that can be done about President Obama now, no matter what he does. Impeachment, even if it succeeded, would mean Joe Biden as president and riots across the country. It is hard to know which would be worse.

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I posted a poll, asking if people think he is purposely destroying America. It is linked to another poll, where people resoundingly agree with me, that he is.
If people resoundingly agreed with you that the Earth is flat, it would not make the Earth any noticeably flatter.
 
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Deleted member 21794

Guest
If people resoundingly agreed with you that the Earth is flat, it would not make the Earth any noticeably flatter.
Very true. That would be much like many people believing Obama would reduce health care premiums by $2,500 per family while increasing coverage and covering more people. What kind of idiot would believe such nonsense, especially from a guy who's never had a real job in the private sector?
 

Mr. Friscus

Governor
It would be fascinating to watch you try to document that very strange assertion.
"Trying to destroy America" can mean a few things, I think you're just assuming one definition.

I think Obama doesn't like core values of America, which define it.

I think if given the opportunity, Obama would like America to join the European Union (a communal society).

I think Obama has shown he feels we must feel guilty for owning the land we own, and that white anglo-saxons must feel guilty for their skin color, and feel guilt for slavery happening hundreds of years ago.

I think Obama would like wealthy CONSERVATIVES to feel guilty for their wealth (while at the same time enjoying extreme wealth himself, as well as his donors).

I think Obama views the founders of the country as overall bad people, and would probably use labels as "racist" and "phobic" to describe them, of course, AFTER you get past his confusing double speak in which he praises them to high heavens while lecturing us on why their stances weren't entirely correct.

I think because Obama isn't exactly a big fan of the founders, he doesn't hold the Constitution as absolute law. I think he views it as a "living document" in all aspects, meaning, we can change it as long as he can get enough people pissed off at it.

So, If America is NOT like the rest of the world? Then yes, I think Obama wants to "Destroy" that. He wants to destroy an America that stands alone, and move it towards a global, communal society (which has always failed in history).
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
Pres Obama is not destroying America, but I think repub/cons would be if they plan to nominate Carson.

 
Here, this wise man makes the case more eloquently than I ever could:
I don't necessarily agree that Thomas Sowell is a 'wise man', as he has said some unbelievably stupid things over the years. On the other hand, he is also a very knowledgeable economist in some areas, such as his studies of human migration.

Anyway, from his essay is this: Barack Obama's campaign promise to "fundamentally change the United States of America" hardly suggests love. Nor did his international speaking tour in 2009, telling foreign audiences that America was to blame for problems on the world stage.

LeRoy: Mitt Rmoney promised a "complete restructuring" of the American economy if he became President. I have often asked this (of folks like you), but have yet to get any kind of cogent answer: Can you explain to me the difference between a "complete restructuring" and a "fundamental transformation"? Why is the former innocuous and even desirable, while the latter is somehow horrifying?!?? Inquiring minds want to know......

Also, America DOES bear SOME responsibility for SOME of the ills of the world. I wonder about people who deny this. Are you saying America should NEVER apologize, for ANYTHING?

I think you could make a FAR stronger case that George W. Bush and Dick Cheney MUST hate America, because they did so much damage to America's reputation around the world, with their policy of torturing our prisoners. It will take us at least half a century to overcome that stain on our reputation. Surely only someone who hated America would have done such a thing.
 
"Trying to destroy America" can mean a few things, I think you're just assuming one definition.

I think Obama doesn't like core values of America, which define it.

I think if given the opportunity, Obama would like America to join the European Union (a communal society).

I think Obama has shown he feels we must feel guilty for owning the land we own, and that white anglo-saxons must feel guilty for their skin color, and feel guilt for slavery happening hundreds of years ago.

I think Obama would like wealthy CONSERVATIVES to feel guilty for their wealth (while at the same time enjoying extreme wealth himself, as well as his donors).

I think Obama views the founders of the country as overall bad people, and would probably use labels as "racist" and "phobic" to describe them, of course, AFTER you get past his confusing double speak in which he praises them to high heavens while lecturing us on why their stances weren't entirely correct.

I think because Obama isn't exactly a big fan of the founders, he doesn't hold the Constitution as absolute law. I think he views it as a "living document" in all aspects, meaning, we can change it as long as he can get enough people pissed off at it.

So, If America is NOT like the rest of the world? Then yes, I think Obama wants to "Destroy" that. He wants to destroy an America that stands alone, and move it towards a global, communal society (which has always failed in history).
I think NONE of your paragraphs are remotely accurate.
 
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