Don't believe it

[Spamature]

Well sure, any form of leftie mental masturbation always brings it back to republicans. Here in the real world, we know better.

Republicans doom us to this fate when they decided to cut taxes on the rich and borrow the shortfall from the rich at interest. Outside of recession and pandemic emergency spending tax cuts are responsible for more than 90% of US debt. They are also as stated in the chart the major driver of income inequality. Yet the one tax cut Republicans were behind was the one that doubled poverty among low paid workers.

You delude yourself that know are better, but that is just part of the lie you tell yourselves to ignore the facts.

America would have been much better off without your policies.

 

[Colorforms]

Republicans doom us to this fate when they decided to cut taxes on the rich and borrow the shortfall from the rich at interest. Outside of recession and pandemic emergency spending tax cuts are responsible for more than 90% of US debt. They are also as stated in the chart the major driver of income inequality. Yet the one tax cut Republicans were behind was the one that doubled poverty among low paid workers.

You delude yourself that know are better, but that is just part of the lie you tell yourselves to ignore the facts.

America would have been much better off without your policies.

republicans didn't put us in the middle of crippling inflation, a baby food and supply chain shortage, doubling of energy bills and increasing food prices. That was democrats.

 

[Spamature]

republicans didn't put us in the middle of crippling inflation, a baby food and supply chain shortage, doubling of energy bills and increasing food prices. That was democrats.

What do you mean ?
Democrats didn't cause WORLDWIDE inflation. The charts in the thread show that this bout of WORLDWIDE inflation actually started in 2020 and it just didn't hit the US until 2021.

Baby food shortage was cause by contamination in the major production factory.
The supply chain was stopped shortages existed prior to Dems coming into office because the supply chain had been shutdown for a year already. Did the Dems negotiate with Saudis and Russia to lower production ? Did they start a war in Europe ?

No, they just got to work on the problems while Republicans have done nothing but gripe about. The problems they left behind that came to fruition in 2021. Just like you gripe about poverty after having taken the efforts to double it. Republicans don't fixe problems. But they sure know how to fix the blame.

Deplorable !

 

[Colorforms]

What do you mean ?
Democrats didn't cause WORLDWIDE inflation. The charts in the thread show that this bout of WORLDWIDE inflation actually started in 2020 and it just didn't hit the US until 2021.

Baby food shortage was cause by contamination in the major production factory.
The supply chain was stopped shortages existed prior to Dems coming into office because the supply chain had been shutdown for a year already. Did the Dems negotiate with Saudis and Russia to lower production ? Did they start a war in Europe ?

No, they just got to work on the problems while Republicans have done nothing but gripe about. The problems they left behind that came to fruition in 2021. Just like you gripe about poverty after having taken the efforts to double it. Republicans don't fixe problems. But they sure know how to fix the blame.

Deplorable !

The baby food shortage was caused when the Biden administration shut down the plant of the major baby food producer in the country, over 7 possible contaminated cans.

And yes, Biden touched off major inflation in the US and worldwide. The dollar is still the denomination that business worldwide uses. When we go belly up, so does everyone connected to us.

And yes, democrats reduced the amount of oil we produce in the US, and considering that Russia and the Saudis slowed production in order to avoid a world gut on oil, I find it ironic that Biden had to go to Saudi Arabia in his knees to get them to produce more. And they blew Biden off.

Friggin spectacular.

 

[EatTheRich]

The poor don't pay federal taxes, especially if they have children. they are the beneficiaries of federal largesse, which is the tax money of all of the people who do pay into the federal government.

Poor people don’t have jobs and get payroll taxes taken out of every paycheck? They don’t buy gas or alcohol or cigarettes, and pay excise taxes on those? They don’t purchase imports and pay tariffs? Get out of here with this obvious nonsense.

 

[Spamature]

The baby food shortage was caused when the Biden administration shut down the plant of the major baby food producer in the country, over 7 possible contaminated cans.

And yes, Biden touched off major inflation in the US and worldwide. The dollar is still the denomination that business worldwide uses. When we go belly up, so does everyone connected to us.

And yes, democrats reduced the amount of oil we produce in the US, and considering that Russia and the Saudis slowed production in order to avoid a world gut on oil, I find it ironic that Biden had to go to Saudi Arabia in his knees to get them to produce more. And they blew Biden off.

Friggin spectacular.

Yes blame Biden for the actions of a company and consumers, even if the problem didn't start under him.

Explainer: What happened with Abbott baby formula that worsened a U.S. shortage?

Abbott Laboratories , the biggest U.S. supplier of powder infant formula including Similac, has agreed with regulators on steps needed to resume production at its Sturgis, Michigan, manufacturing plant.

www.reuters.com

WHAT CAUSED THE SHORTAGE?
The shortage began in 2020 as consumers stockpiled due to COVID-19 lockdowns. Formula makers ramped up production but then cut back in 2021 as demand slowed. Global shipping logjams have also prevented retailers from promptly restocking shelves.

Now explain exactly how Biden touched off WORLDWIDE inflation which began in 2020 ?

The Democrats reduced oil production ? Then how come they couldn't wave this same magic wand and increase oil production when it was hurting them with the public ? You say Biden got blown off, yet you maintain he has power over the situation ?



How does that work ?


Trump bragged about cutting oil production.

Trump plays key role in brokering historic oil deal

The world's largest oil producers agreed to a historic production cut of almost 10 million barrels per day.

www.foxbusiness.com

The deal reached by the so-called OPEC+ group, which ends the price war between Saudi Arabia and Russia, reduces global output by 9.7 million barrels per day in May and June, helping to ease a global gut exacerbated by the COVID-19 pandemic.

Production will also be reduced by 8 million bpd from July through December and 6 million bpd from January 2021 through April 2022.

Trump was “personally involved throughout the process” and “showed his skill at
dealmaking,” Brouillette told reporters on a Sunday evening conference call.


Trump did not make any specific promises on behalf of U.S. production, according to Brouillette, who noted that Mexico agreed to cut output by 100,000 bpd in May and June and the “reduction of production within the United States will subsume whatever agreement the Mexicans would have been required to agree to under OPEC+.”

Trump said in a Monday morning tweet that "OPEC+ is looking to cut 20 Million Barrels a day, not the 10 Million that is generally being reported."

 

[Jack4freedom]

Well sure, any form of leftie mental masturbation always brings it back to republicans. Here in the real world, we know better.

And all daily right wing masturbation gets pointed back at them too. Big surprise there. In the real work we know that most campy political rhetoric coming from both sides needs to be taken with a pound of salt.

 

[Colorforms]

Poor people don’t have jobs and get payroll taxes taken out of every paycheck? They don’t buy gas or alcohol or cigarettes, and pay excise taxes on those? They don’t purchase imports and pay tariffs? Get out of here with this obvious nonsense.

You do know the difference between federal and sales tax, right? And no, poor people don't pay federal taxes because they get it all back and then some at tax time.

 

[Colorforms]

Yes blame Biden for the actions of a company and consumers, even if the problem didn't start under him.

Explainer: What happened with Abbott baby formula that worsened a U.S. shortage?

Abbott Laboratories , the biggest U.S. supplier of powder infant formula including Similac, has agreed with regulators on steps needed to resume production at its Sturgis, Michigan, manufacturing plant.

www.reuters.com

WHAT CAUSED THE SHORTAGE?
The shortage began in 2020 as consumers stockpiled due to COVID-19 lockdowns. Formula makers ramped up production but then cut back in 2021 as demand slowed. Global shipping logjams have also prevented retailers from promptly restocking shelves.

Now explain exactly how Biden touched off WORLDWIDE inflation which began in 2020 ?

The Democrats reduced oil production ? Then how come they couldn't wave this same magic wand and increase oil production when it was hurting them with the public ? You say Biden got blown off, yet you maintain he has power over the situation ?



How does that work ?


Trump bragged about cutting oil production.

Trump plays key role in brokering historic oil deal

The world's largest oil producers agreed to a historic production cut of almost 10 million barrels per day.

www.foxbusiness.com

The deal reached by the so-called OPEC+ group, which ends the price war between Saudi Arabia and Russia, reduces global output by 9.7 million barrels per day in May and June, helping to ease a global gut exacerbated by the COVID-19 pandemic.

Production will also be reduced by 8 million bpd from July through December and 6 million bpd from January 2021 through April 2022.

Trump was “personally involved throughout the process” and “showed his skill at
dealmaking,” Brouillette told reporters on a Sunday evening conference call.


Trump did not make any specific promises on behalf of U.S. production, according to Brouillette, who noted that Mexico agreed to cut output by 100,000 bpd in May and June and the “reduction of production within the United States will subsume whatever agreement the Mexicans would have been required to agree to under OPEC+.”

Trump said in a Monday morning tweet that "OPEC+ is looking to cut 20 Million Barrels a day, not the 10 Million that is generally being reported."

Biden shut it down, baby food became scarce. So yes, I blame Biden.

Breaking down the Biden administration's response to the baby formula shortage | CNN Politics

And, as I said, Trump called for an overall reduction to the production of oil because, since we were, at the time, a net producer of oil, the world market was on the verge of an oil glut.

Biden stopped our being a net producer, preferring to buy our oil from other sources. But those sources, instead of ramping up production, decided to increase prices instead, causing world wide hardship.

Again, I blame Biden.

 

[EatTheRich]

You do know the difference between federal and sales tax, right? And no, poor people don't pay federal taxes because they get it all back and then some at tax time.

You do know that the federal government levies sales taxes, right? You do know that payroll taxes, which are also largely federal taxes, are the majority of taxes paid by 90% of taxpayers, right?

 

[Colorforms]

You do know that the federal government levies sales taxes, right? You do know that payroll taxes, which are also largely federal taxes, are the majority of taxes paid by 90% of taxpayers, right?

Ummm no, that's the state that does sales tax. There is no national sales tax.

 

[EatTheRich]

Ummm no, that's the state that does sales tax. There is no national sales tax.

Wrong

What Is the Federal Gas Tax? | Capital One

The federal gas tax funds things like road construction and maintenance as well as public transportation. Learn more.

www.capitalone.com

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Federal Excise Tax - Beer Institute

Federal Excise Tax The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, passed by Congress in December 2017, provided a temporary reduction in federal excise taxes for all brewers and beer importers. Congress made these rates permanent at the end of 2020.

www.beerinstitute.org

Cigarette and Tobacco Taxes Archives

Explore the latest research and analysis regarding taxes on tobacco from the experts at the Tax Foundation. Learn more about tobacco tax proposals.

taxfoundation.org

What are the major federal excise taxes, and how much money do they raise?

Excise taxes are narrowly based taxes on consumption, levied on specific goods, services, and activities. They can be either a per-unit tax (such as the...

www.taxpolicycenter.org

 

[Colorforms]

Wrong

What Is the Federal Gas Tax? | Capital One

The federal gas tax funds things like road construction and maintenance as well as public transportation. Learn more.

www.capitalone.com

.

Federal Excise Tax - Beer Institute

Federal Excise Tax The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, passed by Congress in December 2017, provided a temporary reduction in federal excise taxes for all brewers and beer importers. Congress made these rates permanent at the end of 2020.

www.beerinstitute.org

Cigarette and Tobacco Taxes Archives

Explore the latest research and analysis regarding taxes on tobacco from the experts at the Tax Foundation. Learn more about tobacco tax proposals.

taxfoundation.org

What are the major federal excise taxes, and how much money do they raise?

Excise taxes are narrowly based taxes on consumption, levied on specific goods, services, and activities. They can be either a per-unit tax (such as the...

www.taxpolicycenter.org

See, I knew you were going to come back with that. Those are not sales taxes. In the case of cigarettes, it's a sin tax. Excise taxes aren't sales taxes. I know, it's confusing, especially when you're ignoring facts in order to pretend something exists that doesn't.

 

[Spamature]

Biden shut it down, baby food became scarce. So yes, I blame Biden.

Breaking down the Biden administration's response to the baby formula shortage | CNN Politics

And, as I said, Trump called for an overall reduction to the production of oil because, since we were, at the time, a net producer of oil, the world market was on the verge of an oil glut.

Biden stopped our being a net producer, preferring to buy our oil from other sources. But those sources, instead of ramping up production, decided to increase prices instead, causing world wide hardship.

Again, I blame Biden.

So you say that the whistleblowers should have been ignored in the case of Abbott ?

Also you blame Biden when Trump cut US oil production as part of the deal with our enemies SA and Russia.

Trump was “personally involved throughout the process” and “showed his skill at dealmaking,”

Funny thing is the Biden admin worked around the clock to fix the formula shortage.

While Trump paraded around bragging about the oil shortage he created.

“reduction of production within the United States will subsume whatever agreement the Mexicans would have been required to agree to under OPEC+.”

 

[Colorforms]

So you say that the whistleblowers should have been ignored in the case of Abbott ?

Also you blame Biden when Trump cut US oil production as part of the deal with our enemies SA and Russia.

Trump was “personally involved throughout the process” and “showed his skill at dealmaking,”

Funny thing is the Biden admin worked around the clock to fix the formula shortage.

While Trump paraded around bragging about the oil shortage he created.

“reduction of production within the United States will subsume whatever agreement the Mexicans would have been required to agree to under OPEC+.”

We STILL have a formula shortage. And since Biden caused it, yes, he should be working tirelessly to fix it.

And again, Trump was trying to avoid a glut of oil on the world market. Biden, on the other hand, screwed us and the people we were selling oil too royally and made them return to Russian oil that literally funded the war against Ukraine.

 

[Jack4freedom]

We STILL have a formula shortage. And since Biden caused it, yes, he should be working tirelessly to fix it.

And again, Trump was trying to avoid a glut of oil on the world market. Biden, on the other hand, screwed us and the people we were selling oil too royally and made them return to Russian oil that literally funded the war against Ukraine.

Trump is your warrior, he is your justice and yes….he is your retribution….Send him some money!

 

[Colorforms]

Trump is your warrior, he is your justice and yes….he is your retribution….Send him some money!

If he's the nominee then you bet I will send him money. Biden's an incompetent and I don't know if America can survive another term.

 

[EatTheRich]

See, I knew you were going to come back with that. Those are not sales taxes. In the case of cigarettes, it's a sin tax. Excise taxes aren't sales taxes. I know, it's confusing, especially when you're ignoring facts in order to pretend something exists that doesn't.

Remember, this dispute began in post #38 with your claim that the poor “don’t pay federal taxes.”

I responded (post #45) by reminding you that they might “buy gas or alcohol or cigarettes, and pay excise taxes on those.”

You questioned (post #48) whether I knew the difference between federal taxes and sales taxes, a comment that was only relevant if you were questioning whether the taxes I was talking about were federal levies.

When I disabused you of your ignorance, you retreated to a distinction between excise taxes or sin taxes and sales taxes, ignoring that based on that distinction your post #38 made no sense.

But that distinction is specious. Excise taxes are a particular category of sales taxes.

Sales Taxes | Encyclopedia.com

Sales TaxesSections within this essay: Source for information on Sales Taxes: Gale Encyclopedia of Everyday Law dictionary.

www.encyclopedia.com

Even if you call them “sin taxes.”

Sin Tax Definition and How It Works

A sin tax is a tax on goods and services deemed harmful to society, such as tobacco, alcohol, and gambling. Read how much states make from sin taxes.

www.investopedia.com

 

[Colorforms]

Remember, this dispute began in post #38 with your claim that the poor “don’t pay federal taxes.”

I responded (post #45) by reminding you that they might “buy gas or alcohol or cigarettes, and pay excise taxes on those.”

You questioned (post #48) whether I knew the difference between federal taxes and sales taxes, a comment that was only relevant if you were questioning whether the taxes I was talking about were federal levies.

When I disabused you of your ignorance, you retreated to a distinction between excise taxes or sin taxes and sales taxes, ignoring that based on that distinction your post #38 made no sense.

But that distinction is specious. Excise taxes are a particular category of sales taxes.

Sales Taxes | Encyclopedia.com

Sales TaxesSections within this essay: Source for information on Sales Taxes: Gale Encyclopedia of Everyday Law dictionary.

www.encyclopedia.com

Even if you call them “sin taxes.”

Sin Tax Definition and How It Works

A sin tax is a tax on goods and services deemed harmful to society, such as tobacco, alcohol, and gambling. Read how much states make from sin taxes.

www.investopedia.com

There is a record here, and what we said is online. You tried to sell excise taxes off as sales taxes. You even claimed, in so many words, that the government levies sales taxes. They don't.

The poor do not pay federal income taxes, that is a fact. More often they get back more than what they pay in. Especially if they have children. That's just a fact.

 

[Spamature]

We STILL have a formula shortage. And since Biden caused it, yes, he should be working tirelessly to fix it.

And again, Trump was trying to avoid a glut of oil on the world market. Biden, on the other hand, screwed us and the people we were selling oil too royally and made them return to Russian oil that literally funded the war against Ukraine.

He fixed it alright. Now you are complaining about the results of his trying to fix Ru and SA problem by foolishly planting the seeds for a problem that harms Americans. Yep America the 3rd largest importer of oil, only behind the entire EU and China, wouldn't need oil after the pandemic. Leaving the Biden admin with the duty to solve yet another mess rooted in a ceaseless GOP missteps and poor leadership.

Screw regular folks make sure they're poorer, protect big money make them richer.