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Fact -When the Civil War started, Lincoln asked Robert E Lee to lead all Union troops

So all these attacks on Trump for supposedly defending Robert E. Lee look pretty weak unless the critics also want to attack Lincoln.

The CW was NOT about slavery. The idea is preposterous - more media fake news that's been going on for 150 years . Along with the above fact it's also true that:

1. There were 4 UNION states (ky md de mo) that lincoln let practice slavery throughout the war. 300,000 black slaves combined in those states

2. There were many UNION generals that were slave owners throughout the war. Grant himself owned a slave and his wife owned a bunch of them.
 
So what was the CW about.? Tariffs and states rights and the right to secede. Or maybe the european bankers were behind it because they wanted to split up america into a bunch of countries and then have a lucrative war every twenty years like in europe.

But it was not about slavery.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
So all these attacks on Trump for supposedly defending Robert E. Lee look pretty weak unless the critics also want to attack Lincoln.

The CW was NOT about slavery. The idea is preposterous - more media fake news that's been going on for 150 years . Along with the above fact it's also true that:

1. There were 4 UNION states (ky md de mo) that lincoln let practice slavery throughout the war. 300,000 black slaves combined in those states

2. There were many UNION generals that were slave owners throughout the war. Grant himself owned a slave and his wife owned a bunch of them.
and of those people, who led an army meant to destroy our nation to preserve slavery?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
So what was the CW about.? Tariffs and states rights and the right to secede. Or maybe the european bankers were behind it because they wanted to split up america into a bunch of countries and then have a lucrative war every twenty years like in europe.

But it was not about slavery.
read the articles of secession from each of the states in rebellion.
 
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So all these attacks on Trump for supposedly defending Robert E. Lee look pretty weak unless the critics also want to attack Lincoln.

The CW was NOT about slavery. The idea is preposterous - more media fake news that's been going on for 150 years . Along with the above fact it's also true that:...
This is false on its face stupid ass'd flat earther mindset.

https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jun/25/gavin-mcinnes/tweet-civil-war-was-about-secession-not-slavery/

Historian Stephanie McCurry at the University of Pennsylvania points to Mississippi’s declaration of secession. Sentence two begins, "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery."
1. There were 4 UNION states (ky md de mo) that lincoln let practice slavery throughout the war. 300,000 black slaves combined in those states
Irrelevant, they weren't going to commit treason to preserve rich people's stuff

...2. There were many UNION generals that were slave owners throughout the war. Grant himself owned a slave and his wife owned a bunch of them.
Still irrelevant in this context, they weren't willing to commit treason to keep their stuff.

Damn, can't get any more simple than that
 

Boca

Governor
So all these attacks on Trump for supposedly defending Robert E. Lee look pretty weak unless the critics also want to attack Lincoln.

The CW was NOT about slavery. The idea is preposterous - more media fake news that's been going on for 150 years . Along with the above fact it's also true that:

1. There were 4 UNION states (ky md de mo) that lincoln let practice slavery throughout the war. 300,000 black slaves combined in those states

2. There were many UNION generals that were slave owners throughout the war. Grant himself owned a slave and his wife owned a bunch of them.
Don't forget Lincoln's father-in-law in Kentucky, Robert Todd, to include his extended family, 100's of slaves.
 
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Sickofleft

Guest
Grant never owned a slave, his wife was Southern and her family and her father especially owned several slaves. Incidentally her father hated Grant, until he became famous of course. Grant's parents were abolitionist.

Grant thought the Civil War was about Slavery and nothing else.

Robert E. Lee fought for Virginia, that was where his loyalty was, I am not sure how he felt about slavery personally but it's obvious he was fighting to preserve a way of life that included slaves. I also found him personally in everything I ever read to be overrated as a General. Every offensive move he made, particularly at Gettysburg he got smacked.
 
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Boca

Governor
No Mensa,

Declaring war against America and or fighting on the side of those who did would have been.

Damn, really ... needs to be broken down for you like that?!
Damn...learn to write why don't ya?

1. There were 4 UNION states (ky md de mo) that lincoln let practice slavery throughout the war. 300,000 black slaves combined in those states

Irrelevant, they weren't going to commit treason to preserve rich people's stuff

As written you are saying (they) the 4 Union States weren't going to commit treason.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Damn...learn to write why don't ya?

1. There were 4 UNION states (ky md de mo) that lincoln let practice slavery throughout the war. 300,000 black slaves combined in those states

Irrelevant, they weren't going to commit treason to preserve rich people's stuff

As written you are saying (they) the 4 Union States weren't going to commit treason.
Blacks owned more slaves than whites
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
No Mensa,

Declaring war against America and or fighting on the side of those who did would have been.

Damn, really ... needs to be broken down for you like that?!
Bring your lil' ass on down and fire on us again and see what you get now, boy.

Civil War wasn't over Slavery, it's over Yanks thinking they could take our commodities and pay what they decided to pay...……...

 

EatTheRich

President
So all these attacks on Trump for supposedly defending Robert E. Lee look pretty weak unless the critics also want to attack Lincoln.

The CW was NOT about slavery. The idea is preposterous - more media fake news that's been going on for 150 years . Along with the above fact it's also true that:

1. There were 4 UNION states (ky md de mo) that lincoln let practice slavery throughout the war. 300,000 black slaves combined in those states

2. There were many UNION generals that were slave owners throughout the war. Grant himself owned a slave and his wife owned a bunch of them.
What makes Lee a historical villain is that he turned down Lincoln and took sides with the slaveowners’ rebellion instead. The same reason Trump defends him.
 

EatTheRich

President
So what was the CW about.? Tariffs and states rights and the right to secede. Or maybe the european bankers were behind it because they wanted to split up america into a bunch of countries and then have a lucrative war every twenty years like in europe.

But it was not about slavery.
It was about slavery according to virtually every American on both sides at the time.
 

EatTheRich

President
Bring your lil' ass on down and fire on us again and see what you get now, boy.

Civil War wasn't over Slavery, it's over Yanks thinking they could take our commodities and pay what they decided to pay...……...
If by “commodities” you mean people.
 

worldlymrb

America: Love it or Leave it!
So all these attacks on Trump for supposedly defending Robert E. Lee look pretty weak unless the critics also want to attack Lincoln.

The CW was NOT about slavery. The idea is preposterous - more media fake news that's been going on for 150 years . Along with the above fact it's also true that:

1. There were 4 UNION states (ky md de mo) that lincoln let practice slavery throughout the war. 300,000 black slaves combined in those states

2. There were many UNION generals that were slave owners throughout the war. Grant himself owned a slave and his wife owned a bunch of them.
That means, according to Washington Post and Liberal Logic, that honest Abe Lincoln was a racist and his statue should be torn down immediately!

I guess if anyone as the audacity to say that Field Marshal Rommel (aka Desert Fox), was a great general, is a NAZI too? Using race baiting liberal logic that is.
 
What makes Lee a historical villain is that he turned down Lincoln and took sides with the slaveowners’ rebellion instead. The same reason Trump defends him.
Lee sided with his state virginia. At the time people considered their state to be more their country than they considered the USA as their country. For lee to betray virginia would have been treason.
 
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