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Fauci lied and half a million died.

middleview

President
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Well obviously, it didn't need to be covered up until it blew up early last year. Obama had put a moratorium on funding GOF research, and Fauci subverted that by laundering the cast through Daszak's EcoHealth operation.
So Trump, president for three years, continued to fund researching a disease with the Chinese Wuhan lab. Wow...string that f*cker up!

Are you thinking he didn't release the details of the "secret intel" because it would implicate him? He was in charge...not Fauci.

Face it...there was no GOF research funded by the US. If the three researchers did have covid we can start there...Biden has ordered an investigation. Do you think he'd have done that if it pointed back to funding provided by Obama?

The sheer idiocy in your logic is actually scary. I hope you have adult supervision.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Why is it Republicans never think things through. I think they are just that dumb.
If you want to fire Fauci then have a replacement in mind.
If you can't present a better alternative then it's fair to assume to Fauci is the best option.
Barny Fife would be more honest

Speaking of thinking it through look in a mirror
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
So Trump, president for three years, continued to fund researching a disease with the Chinese Wuhan lab. Wow...string that f*cker up!

Are you thinking he didn't release the details of the "secret intel" because it would implicate him? He was in charge...not Fauci.

Face it...there was no GOF research funded by the US. If the three researchers did have covid we can start there...Biden has ordered an investigation. Do you think he'd have done that if it pointed back to funding provided by Obama?

The sheer idiocy in your logic is actually scary. I hope you have adult supervision.
None of that changes the fact that your were pushing the natural origin disinformation all along, while I was telling you over and over and over that you were wearing political blinders. Now you are suggesting that I'M the one whose logic is "idioytic?" That is quintessentially ironic.

You are either lazy or politically motivated in your sloppy handle on the facts:


Vanity Fair reported that at a December 2020 meeting, US State Department officials were "explicitly told by colleagues not to explore the Wuhan Institute of Virology's gain-of-function research, because it would bring unwelcome attention to US government funding of it."

US officials may have avoided the coronavirus lab-leak theory to avoid associations with controversial gain-of-function research (yahoo.com)

You canstantly prance around here arrogantly stating false narratives as fact, never bothering to acknowledge your (exposed) misstatements before seemlessly moving on to the next lie. You have been repeatedly exposed as a propagandist for the democratic party, and yet you continue to claim you are a "moderate independent." That, of course, is absurd!
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Why didn’t Trump release all that (alleged) info?
Because he is an idiot? Are you suggesting that the info doesn't exist, despite the growing consensus that the lab leak is the most likely scenario? In all likelihood, it was circumstantial evidence (that is all we've seen so far) and those of us who weren't conflicted on the matter couldn't get you covidiots to shut up long enough to listen to it. If he had done so Peolosi and Shiff would have impeached him again!
 

Dawg

President
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None of that changes the fact that your were pushing the natural origin disinformation all along, while I was telling you over and over and over that you were wearing political blinders. Now you are suggesting that I'M the one whose logic is "idioytic?" That is quintessentially ironic.

You are either lazy or politically motivated in your sloppy handle on the facts:


Vanity Fair reported that at a December 2020 meeting, US State Department officials were "explicitly told by colleagues not to explore the Wuhan Institute of Virology's gain-of-function research, because it would bring unwelcome attention to US government funding of it."

US officials may have avoided the coronavirus lab-leak theory to avoid associations with controversial gain-of-function research (yahoo.com)

You canstantly prance around here arrogantly stating false narratives as fact, never bothering to acknowledge your (exposed) misstatements before seemlessly moving on to the next lie. You have been repeatedly exposed as a propagandist for the democratic party, and yet you continue to claim you are a "moderate independent." That, of course, is absurd!
Excellently said
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Not when it comes to politics. If there was anything that would have boosted Trump politically(like what you are suggesting) he would have publicly released it in an instant.
So the information that is coming out now that has been documented as having been known by various government agencies since at least early 2020 and is now forcing all of the left wing media outlets to walk back (or memory hole) their "fact chacking" on the matter, what, doesn't really exist?
 
So the information that is coming out now that has been documented as having been known by various government agencies since at least early 2020 and is now forcing all of the left wing media outlets to walk back (or memory hole) their "fact chacking" on the matter, what, doesn't really exist?
What information coming out are you referring to?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
None of that changes the fact that your were pushing the natural origin disinformation all along, while I was telling you over and over and over that you were wearing political blinders. Now you are suggesting that I'M the one whose logic is "idioytic?" That is quintessentially ironic.

You are either lazy or politically motivated in your sloppy handle on the facts:


Vanity Fair reported that at a December 2020 meeting, US State Department officials were "explicitly told by colleagues not to explore the Wuhan Institute of Virology's gain-of-function research, because it would bring unwelcome attention to US government funding of it."

US officials may have avoided the coronavirus lab-leak theory to avoid associations with controversial gain-of-function research (yahoo.com)

You canstantly prance around here arrogantly stating false narratives as fact, never bothering to acknowledge your (exposed) misstatements before seemlessly moving on to the next lie. You have been repeatedly exposed as a propagandist for the democratic party, and yet you continue to claim you are a "moderate independent." That, of course, is absurd!
You read what you think agrees with your conspiracy theory and ignore anything that does't.. How convenient.

From your link:

That a genetically engineered virus might have escaped from the WIV was one alarming scenario. But it was also possible that a research trip to collect bat samples could have led to infection in the field, or back at the lab.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
So the information that is coming out now that has been documented as having been known by various government agencies since at least early 2020 and is now forcing all of the left wing media outlets to walk back (or memory hole) their "fact chacking" on the matter, what, doesn't really exist?
Trump didn't help by saying he'd seen intelligence that suggested the virus originated in the Wuhan lab, but he couldn't tell us what it was...he said he "wasn't allowed".

So there are two parts of the accusation. Did the virus infect someone in the lab and then spread within Wuhan and eventually internationally?

That is unknown. There is an investigation that is focusing on the three researchers who were sick in November 2019.

The other is whether or not the virus was created in the lab. The Defense Intelligence Agency said no...that there was no sign of it being a human engineered virus. I point to the info from the DIA as a reason to doubt it...then there is the crap about millions of dollars being sent to Wuhan by the US government. Again, all credible info says that is also crap.

If Trump knew Obama had somehow funded Covid he could have won the election by releasing that info...but he didn't. Why not?
 

Spamature

President
Yes, he said he saw the intelligence that suggested it came from the lab. He didn't reveal the intelligence because the Intel folks likely told him if he did he would be impeached (again).

I'm "blaming Fauci" for being warned it was likely not a natural virus, and yet he still adopted the stance (which you morons parroted) that any such speculation was a "conspiracy theory."
Wait, he saw it and Trump didn't ? Or are you claim the authority to declassify intelligence under Trump ?


That is complete BS and you know it. Fauci could not have said anything on his own without risking prison. Just the few times from during Trump's insane Covid Craptaclur show from the WH. He corrected obviously dangerous lies by Trump, and it ended up with a campaign by his cult.

Or have you forgotten about Trump's cult's firs bite at this apple with the original Fire Fauci campaign which Trump gave approval to in his Twitter account.

Deplorable !
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Much like the vague accusations they tried to throw at Joe during the campaign....they had nothing to go on there and even less with a story about the US funding the research into a deadly disease so they could release it in time for the election to beat Trump...Even the Trump campaign and Trump's idiot legal team decided against trying to float that boat.
Right wing echo chamber outlets often falsely accuse people of saying things, without so much as quoting them, because they’re lying and the things were not said. GOP cultists hear those echo chamber lies lies and repeat them here. Ask them for quotes and they’re flummoxed, because there are no such quotes. The things they accuse people of saying weren’t said at all.

The GOP Lie Machine in action.
 

Dawg

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middleview

President
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The fact is that the scientists (the honest ones) say they (still, to this day) have no idea how the virus is spread. So early on, the mask theory was a reasonable approach. But, as I pointed out repeatedly over the past year, as cases surged and waned while we were all masking religiously, any reasonable person would have admitted to doubts about the "airborne transmission" theory (certainly with respect to public, and especially outdoor) spaces. You, of course, maintained throughout that any suggestion that the masks were not effective was "laughable." And now we see that actual scientific experiments directed at measuring the airborne transmission threat are coming up empty - so (once again) I was correct and you were wrong. Who's laughing now?
The fact is that you claim we were wearing masks "religiously" but I can show you pictures of thousands of people gathered at a Trump rally with no masks in sight.

We have gone through stages where we thought the disease was beaten...people let up their guard..especially as Trump told people it would be gone any day...Remember when Trump had his super spreader garden party? No masks.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
The fact is that you claim we were wearing masks "religiously" but I can show you pictures of thousands of people gathered at a Trump rally with no masks in sight.

We have gone through stages where we thought the disease was beaten...people let up their guard..especially as Trump told people it would be gone any day...Remember when Trump had his super spreader garden party? No masks.
And as the air studies I cited have shown, all the mask wearing was fatuous virtue signalling, because the virus isn't airborne, at least not in concentrations that would make you sick (and especially outdoors).

We kept going through "stages" where you morons insisted all we need to do is give up more of our personal liberties and the disease will be beaten, all all that happened was we lost more of our liberties.

Seriously, where would you expect to encounter more "airborne" virus, in a covid ward of a hospital or a garden party? There is no such thing as a "super spreader event" except in the fevered little minds of you maskscists...
 
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