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Fed takes rates up another three quarters. Quick, dissemblers pretending nothing's wrong to the fore

Jack4freedom

Governor
We’ll still need income taxes, not just for the revenue needed to provide for the general welfare, but also to reduce the social power of the wealthy who are hurt most by income taxes.
Income tax is the second plank of the Communist Manifesto. The wealthy have figured out how to avoid paying income taxes decades ago. Just like high ranking members of the Communist party wherever it has existed as a form of government.
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The brunt of the tax burden in the US falls squarely on the backs of tradesmen, small businessmen, high end service technitians, plumbers, electricians, contractors, small businessmen, restaurant owners….people who make between $100,000 and $400,000 a year.…The super rich dodge taxes.

Income taxes and the IRS have turned US Banks into de facto informants for the IRS and the Fed instead of fiduciary agents for their customers who do not share their clients information with government agencies unless presented with a warrant and probable cause that a crime was committed. Why should government agencies know about all of your financial affairs without cause?

And you are quite wrong, if we abolished the Fed and the IRS, the US treasury could buy up all debt and loan it back at 2-3% and collect far more in interest than they do in income taxes. Then banking secrecy would be restored and government agencies would have to present a warrant to access any personal financial information. It is insane for the richest country in the world to borrow money or carry large deficits. We should lend money to our citizens at a fair rate to fund our government instead of raking huge percentages of money from working peoples earnings.


We are being swindled by a cabal of international bankers who paid off our congress to sell out our people and hand over the concession to print and coin money to a foreign private entity. Our constitution clearly states that only congress shall have the power to print and coin money and determine the value thereof. Capital should be taxed, not labor.
 

God of War

Governor
Income tax is the second plank of the Communist Manifesto. The wealthy have figured out how to avoid paying income taxes decades ago. Just like high ranking members of the Communist party wherever it has existed as a form of government.
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The brunt of the tax burden in the US falls squarely on the backs of tradesmen, small businessmen, high end service technitians, plumbers, electricians, contractors, small businessmen, restaurant owners….people who make between $100,000 and $400,000 a year.…The super rich dodge taxes.

Income taxes and the IRS have turned US Banks into de facto informants for the IRS and the Fed instead of fiduciary agents for their customers who do not share their clients information with government agencies unless presented with a warrant and probable cause that a crime was committed. Why should government agencies know about all of your financial affairs without cause?

And you are quite wrong, if we abolished the Fed and the IRS, the US treasury could buy up all debt and loan it back at 2-3% and collect far more in interest than they do in income taxes. Then banking secrecy would be restored and government agencies would have to present a warrant to access any personal financial information. It is insane for the richest country in the world to borrow money or carry large deficits. We should lend money to our citizens at a fair rate to fund our government instead of raking huge percentages of money from working peoples earnings.


We are being swindled by a cabal of international bankers who paid off our congress to sell out our people and hand over the concession to print and coin money to a foreign private entity. Our constitution clearly states that only congress shall have the power to print and coin money and determine the value thereof. Capital should be taxed, not labor.
You have no idea what the tax burden distribution is. So I'll try to show you with some simple charts. If you need words the link below should help you out.

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EatTheRich

President
The f*ck it is! It was due to the democratic mayors and governors going ape sh*t crazy with authoritarian regulations. After $6 trillion in covid spending!!! sheesh - you have really turned into a world class liar anymore.
The places with the most stringent regulations returned to essentially normal commercial/industrial activity the quickest. It was the virus, not the mitigation measures, that really screwed with the economy.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
The places with the most stringent regulations returned to essentially normal commercial/industrial activity the quickest. It was the virus, not the mitigation measures, that really screwed with the economy.
You have no data to back that up.
 
That is absurd! This inflation is the result of supply disruption and government spending. We don't need a "recession" to cure that - we need less Brandon!
You aren't totally wrong, but when you put pen to define "supply-side solutions" that the government can do it looks like this:
1.) Eliminating tariffs to increase the supply of goods
And
2.) Increasing the amount of immigrants to alleviate the labor shortage.

Get back to me when this is politically viable.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
You aren't totally wrong, but when you put pen to define "supply-side solutions" that the government can do it looks like this:
1.) Eliminating tariffs to increase the supply of goods
And
2.) Increasing the amount of immigrants to alleviate the labor shortage.

Get back to me when this is politically viable.
There's not a labor shortage there's a money shortage. Everybody thinks that mowing the lawn should pay $100,000 a year. And that's not going to happen.
 

TBLee

Governor
There's not a labor shortage there's a money shortage. Everybody thinks that mowing the lawn should pay $100,000 a year. And that's not going to happen.
Plenty of people who can work, they just don’t want to work. They want money handed to them, and their student loans paid off for them. Or like you said, they expect wages that don’t match the job.
 

EatTheRich

President
There's not a labor shortage there's a money shortage. Everybody thinks that mowing the lawn should pay $100,000 a year. And that's not going to happen.
Plenty of people who can work, they just don’t want to work. They want money handed to them, and their student loans paid off for them. Or like you said, they expect wages that don’t match the job.
Almost all people who can work are working. Jobs that pay wages below market rate frequently go unfilled because people have better options.

If there were a money shortage we wouldn’t have an inflation crisis.
 
There's not a labor shortage there's a money shortage. Everybody thinks that mowing the lawn should pay $100,000 a year. And that's not going to happen.
If they don't inflation under control, mowing lawns will be a career that pays $100,000.
And one way to do that is increase the labor supply. And the only real way to do that in the near term is through increased immigration.
 
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