Former felons could help flip Wisconsin blue in 2020

[Bo Didleysquat]

Former felons could help flip Wisconsin blue in 2020


By Associated Press January 19, 2020 8:00 AM

Former felons could help flip Wisconsin blue in 2020

Advocates are organizing to help inexperienced or previously disenfranchised voters cast a ballot.

americanindependent.com

From the comments:

THAT IS RICH!!!! leftwingers & Democrats & BS Bernie depending on crooks & thieves to help them win elections over Repubs & conservatives & patriots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you're against one hominid one vote just say so. If you're correctly pointing out that all this "all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights" business has always been bullshit in America, kudos.

Were it true, the state would not be able to lift them from you - or anyone else. And patsiots like you would not argue others don't deserve the vote. And by the way, that shit started with the illustrious founders themselves.


One hominid one vote has never been so in America and as a society we have made damn sure of it. Which is odd to me seeing as how we all sit on our asses and watch a lawless aristocracy endlessly wage economically crippling illegal unconstitutional wars of occupation across the globe and participate in the consumption of child sex trafficking and pedophilia which is ignored by "the law" openly. Those folks not only vote, you vote for them, they are your leaders.

 

[Bo Didleysquat]

It’s very easy to convene a meeting of the Black GOP Congressional Caucus.

Tim Scott just talks to himself.

;-)

That's why he was chosen, ala Clarence Thomas.

 

[Mick]

absolutely he was. And please refrain from personal attacks, as they are against forum rules and only make you look weak, angry and defeated. Thanks!

Now for the facts: http://libertyunderfire.org/tag/abraham-lincolns-views-on-socialism/


And there was no personal attack. You called Lincoln a liberal when, in fact, Lincoln abhorred every alt-left ideology you and deranged leaders hold dear. To so thoroughly corrupt Lincoln's views one must be either a liar or not very bright. I asked the question. Going to answer?

 

[Bo Didleysquat]

Now for the facts: http://libertyunderfire.org/tag/abraham-lincolns-views-on-socialism/


And there was no personal attack. You called Lincoln a liberal when, in fact, Lincoln abhorred every alt-left ideology you and deranged leaders hold dear. To so thoroughly corrupt Lincoln's views one must be either a liar or not very bright. I asked the question. Going to answer?

Who killed Abe? What was his ideology?

 

[now_what]

Now for the facts: http://libertyunderfire.org/tag/abraham-lincolns-views-on-socialism/


And there was no personal attack. You called Lincoln a liberal when, in fact, Lincoln abhorred every alt-left ideology you and deranged leaders hold dear. To so thoroughly corrupt Lincoln's views one must be either a liar or not very bright. I asked the question. Going to answer?

Absolutely a liberal. The south was filled with slave loving racists, just like today.

And refrain or you’ll end up being suspended again. Thanks.

 

[Jack4freedom]

Now for the facts: http://libertyunderfire.org/tag/abraham-lincolns-views-on-socialism/


And there was no personal attack. You called Lincoln a liberal when, in fact, Lincoln abhorred every alt-left ideology you and deranged leaders hold dear. To so thoroughly corrupt Lincoln's views one must be either a liar or not very bright. I asked the question. Going to answer?

Lincoln was the greatest Liberal and progressive of his day. The conservatives of the day wanted to conserve the status quo which was slavery. He first spoke out against white supremacy in the Lincoln Douglas debates and was pilloried for it by the conservative press. Any person of average intelligence knows the meanings of those words.

 

[Mick]

Lincoln was the greatest Liberal and progressive of his day. The conservatives of the day wanted to conserve the status quo which was slavery. He first spoke out against white supremacy in the Lincoln Douglas debates and was pilloried for it by the conservative press. Any person of average intelligence knows the meanings of those words.

No, Karl Marx was the greatest liberal of his day. A man for whom Lincoln hated and quite the disdain for. Lincoln championed for small government, lower taxes, individual freedoms, and was one of the biggest proponents of capitalism that has ever graced the White House. He believed in the ownership of private land and believed every man having the ability to pilot their own destiny and create their own wealth separate from the state.

I'm not sure if you are lying or if you truly don't understand what liberal and conservative really means. The definitions are far more nuanced and complex. By your definition, anyone trying to introduce capitalism into China would be considered liberal since it wasn't "conserving the status quo" of the Chinese. Of course, that's ridiculous. Personal freedom, liberty, and the ability to work for your wealth are pillars of conservatism and right wing ideology. According to YOUR definition, the founding fathers would be liberals for fighting back against the overbearing British and their heavy taxation of the American colonies. Of course, that's ridiculous. To live freely and not having government control your life is a pillar of conservatism. See Ronald Reagan.

Nice try to spin Lincoln but the fact of the matter is Lincoln aborrhed your type of people. You advocate socialism, you advocate for high taxes, you advocate for heavy government, you advocate for the loss of personal freedoms, you advocate unfettered illegal immigration. Your ilk are the slaveholders of Lincoln's time. If Lincoln lived now your ilk would be public enemy No. 1.

Facts matter. Now when you can deal with facts you can return to the big boy table, son. Trying to act like socialism is right wing and capitalism is left wing in order to suggest Lincoln was one of yours should be humiliating enough. Good lord. You were far better off floating your crazy conspiracies about Fruitman and Parnut. Even that was less insane. Lulz

Be proud.

 

[Mick]

Absolutely a liberal.

How many liberals champion for small government, low taxes, and are great defenders of capitalism? The fact that are now contorting your ideology to fit somewhere it has no business fitting should tell us all we need to know about how you feel about it. You know it's bullshit.

The south was filled with slave loving racists, just like today.

True. Blacks commit 85% of interracial black/white violent crime. Your ilk are racists and a danger to America. Glad you can finally admit the truth.

And refrain or you’ll end up being suspended again. Thanks.

Don't come here and try to troll or bait people into your left wing garbage. You misrepresented what Lincoln advocated for and instead of being able to use facts to support your nonsense you tried to troll and bait. I'm not the one that's been suspended for trolling. You, meanwhile, spend quite a bit of time on the sidelines. Your efforts to dodge the question I asked while crying is duly noted, however.

 

[Nutty Cortez]

How many liberals champion for small government, low taxes, and are great defenders of capitalism? The fact that are now contorting your ideology to fit somewhere it has no business fitting should tell us all we need to know about how you feel about it. You know it's bullshit.




True. Blacks commit 85% of interracial black/white violent crime. Your ilk are racists and a danger to America. Glad you can finally admit the truth.



Don't come here and try to troll or bait people into your left wing garbage. You misrepresented what Lincoln advocated for and instead of being able to use facts to support your nonsense you tried to troll and bait. I'm not the one that's been suspended for trolling. You, meanwhile, spend quite a bit of time on the sidelines. Your efforts to dodge the question I asked while crying is duly noted, however.

That's a Mic Drop.

 

[Jack4freedom]

No, Karl Marx was the greatest liberal of his day. A man for whom Lincoln hated and quite the disdain for. Lincoln championed for small government, lower taxes, individual freedoms, and was one of the biggest proponents of capitalism that has ever graced the White House. He believed in the ownership of private land and believed every man having the ability to pilot their own destiny and create their own wealth separate from the state.

I'm not sure if you are lying or if you truly don't understand what liberal and conservative really means. The definitions are far more nuanced and complex. By your definition, anyone trying to introduce capitalism into China would be considered liberal since it wasn't "conserving the status quo" of the Chinese. Of course, that's ridiculous. Personal freedom, liberty, and the ability to work for your wealth are pillars of conservatism and right wing ideology. According to YOUR definition, the founding fathers would be liberals for fighting back against the overbearing British and their heavy taxation of the American colonies. Of course, that's ridiculous. To live freely and not having government control your life is a pillar of conservatism. See Ronald Reagan.

Nice try to spin Lincoln but the fact of the matter is Lincoln aborrhed your type of people. You advocate socialism, you advocate for high taxes, you advocate for heavy government, you advocate for the loss of personal freedoms, you advocate unfettered illegal immigration. Your ilk are the slaveholders of Lincoln's time. If Lincoln lived now your ilk would be public enemy No. 1.

Facts matter. Now when you can deal with facts you can return to the big boy table, son. Trying to act like socialism is right wing and capitalism is left wing in order to suggest Lincoln was one of yours should be humiliating enough. Good lord. You were far better off floating your crazy conspiracies about Fruitman and Parnut. Even that was less insane. Lulz

Be proud.

It’s you who does not understand what the meaning of the words Liberal and Progressive means. Look up liberal and then come back ant tell me it has anything to do with anti capitalist or anti personal freedom. It simply doesn’t champ.

Then look up the word progressive. Again, nothing to do with socialism, communism, anti capitalist, anti personal freedom etc. Your ilk is generally full of shit and have taken words like these two and made them into perjoratives in the past few decades. You rant is just another bunch od ignorant word salad typical of a guy who has been propagandized by people a lot smarter than you for decades. Get yourself a dictionary champ instead of being a tool of guys like Hannity, Jones, Limbaugh, Prager and Levin.

By definition, our founding fathers were Liberals and Progressives. So was Lincoln.

 

[Mick]

It’s you who does not understand what the meaning of the words Liberal and Progressive means. Look up liberal and then come back ant tell me it has anything to do with anti capitalist or anti personal freedom. It simply doesn’t champ.

In terms of how we understand it today then, yes, it does. Why are you so embarrassed that Lincoln utterly rejected your craziness? Maybe that's a sign that something is wrong with it? Think about it. You are simply too embarrassed to reject Lincoln to support an alt-left agenda.

Look at all the things Lincoln agree with the Republican party of today that you nutty left wingers fight against:

2nd amendment, illegal immigration, taxes, personal freedoms, small government, capitalism....and many, many others.

There is not one single ideological idea supported by Lincoln that only today's "progressives" or "liberals" would also support. Not one. In fact, Lincoln was explicit in his rejection of a high tax, socialist, anti-2nd amendment nation. These are at the very heart of who your ilk ARE. There is absolutely nothing in your party's craziness that Lincoln would support. Nothing. Hell, if there was such thing as abortion or pro-life in his day he would have rejected abortion as well. The founders and Lincoln understood the sanctity of human life.

What exactly are you pitching here? A dictionary doesn't explain what one truly believes. You believe in evil, conspiracies, and craziness. We all agree with Lincoln and our founders: America abhors this evil.

Any more questions?

 

[Jack4freedom]

In terms of how we understand it today then, yes, it does. Why are you so embarrassed that Lincoln utterly rejected your craziness? Maybe that's a sign that something is wrong with it? Think about it. You are simply too embarrassed to reject Lincoln to support an alt-left agenda.

Look at all the things Lincoln agree with the Republican party of today that you nutty left wingers fight against:

2nd amendment, illegal immigration, taxes, personal freedoms, small government, capitalism....and many, many others.

There is not one single ideological idea supported by Lincoln that only today's "progressives" or "liberals" would also support. Not one. In fact, Lincoln was explicit in his rejection of a high tax, socialist, anti-2nd amendment nation. These are at the very heart of who your ilk ARE. There is absolutely nothing in your party's craziness that Lincoln would support. Nothing. Hell, if there was such thing as abortion or pro-life in his day he would have rejected abortion as well. The founders and Lincoln understood the sanctity of human life.

What exactly are you pitching here? A dictionary doesn't explain what one truly believes. You believe in evil, conspiracies, and craziness. We all agree with Lincoln and our founders: America abhors this evil.

Any more questions?

In Lincoln’s day there was no such thing as the alt left which also has nothing to do with the terms Liberal or Progressive. Also there is nothing in the US Constitution regarding Capitalism or Socialism. Our constitution guarantees the right to Free Enterprise which not Capitalism at all in fact true unfettered capitalism will destroy free enterprise in a matter of years.

Lincoln favored keeping the right to print and coin money as our constitution outlines in the hands of the US Congress and despised the central banks which finally took over our government with the Federal Reserve Bank which was hatched by Nelson Aldrich, a Republican and signed under duress by Woodrow Wilson a sellout Democrat.

You can spin it all you want champ but people like Franklin, Jefferson, Washington, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt were all Liberals and Progressives of their times.

 

[Mick]

In Lincoln’s day there was no such thing as the alt left which also has nothing to do with the terms Liberal or Progressive.

Correct. There was no term like the "alt-left" in Lincoln's day. That is a term used to describe the scourge America now faces.

There were, however, ideological ideas like high taxation, socialism, big government, anti-2nd amendment, etc. etc. The same ideological ideas the American "progressive" holds dear today. These are basic pillars of your scourge. In every one of these instances Lincoln rejected it outright as bad for America.

Going to come to terms with the fact that ideologically you are the complete opposite of Abraham Lincoln? Why be embarrassed over that? Either reject your ideology or embrace it. Don't lie about it...and don't lie about Lincoln. Aren't you a little embarrassed at this point?

 

[Jack4freedom]

Correct. There was no term like the "alt-left" in Lincoln's day. That is a term used to describe the scourge America now faces.

There were, however, ideological ideas like high taxation, socialism, big government, anti-2nd amendment, etc. etc. The same ideological ideas the American "progressive" holds dear today. These are basic pillars of your scourge. In every one of these instances Lincoln rejected it outright as bad for America.

Going to come to terms with the fact that ideologically you are the complete opposite of Abraham Lincoln? Why be embarrassed over that? Either reject your ideology or embrace it. Don't lie about it...and don't lie about Lincoln. Aren't you a little embarrassed at this point?

Not at all. Your Republican Party sold out Lincoln’s ideology when they created and hung the Federal Reserve Banking system on us in 1913 the shoved the IRS up our asses shortly thereafter and has refused to get rid of it. In effect this system controls both corrupt, scummy parties and has for over 100 years. Lincoln won the Civil war by printing debt free US Treasury notes which circumvented the international bank swindlers. They were called Greenbacks. Talk about a liberal progressive idea....JFK did the same with Silver Certificates in 1962, then Reagan was talking about doing the same in 1981. All three soon were greeted with gunfire.

Lincoln would puke his guts out if he saw what the Republican Party and now scumbag Trump have turned his party into. Both parties have bilked up the percentage of our wealth which goes to international bank swindlers Inch by inch until now when 1% of the elites now control 90% of the wealth. If you want to start talking about a free constitutional government, free enterprise, with a financial system which works for everyone, the first step is to get rid of the Federal Reserve and the IRS and return to sound money policy.

Liberal does not mean what you and all of the Limbots say. Get a dictionary champ. It will take liberal progressives to change the financial system and I really don’t give a rats ass which of these two corrupt slimy parties the liberal progressive comes from who has the guts to challenge and expel the present bank swindler regime that has ruled for over 100 years.

 

[EatTheRich]

They are gonna need illegals too!

“Illegals” can’t vote.

 

[EatTheRich]

I'm not saying they shouldn't have the right to vote after their sentence is served.

I am, however, opposed to the idea of allowing prisoners being able to vote in national elections.

Poll: 69 percent of Americans say prisoners shouldn’t be allowed to vote

A significant majority of Americans are opposed to the idea of prisoners being able to vote in national elections, according to a new poll.In a Hill-HarrisX survey released Thursday, 69 percent of …

thehill.com

A significant majority of Americans are opposed to the idea of prisoners being able to vote in national elections, according to a new poll.

In a Hill-HarrisX survey released Thursday, 69 percent of registered voters said incarcerated felons should not be allowed to retain their voting rights. Thirty-one percent favored the idea.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), a front-runner in the 2020 Democratic presidential primary, brought attention to the topic during an April 23 virtual town hall meeting broadcast by CNN when he said he said felons, even those convicted of terrorism offenses, should not have their voting rights taken away while they are in prison.

If there are enough prisoners that allowing them to vote could make the difference in the outcome of an election, you live in a police state.

 

[EatTheRich]

Nah.... they just wanna make it easier to cheat. lol?

As Democrats select their 2020 presidential nominee, a constellation of left-leaning groups is looking ahead, laying groundwork for huge voter turnout in November by filing an avalanche of voting-rights lawsuits against state laws they say suppress participation in elections.

The groups, including state and national party committees as well as outside nonprofits, are spending millions of dollars to fight voter-registration purges, ID requirements and rules regarding signature-matching and ballot order, and they are also hiring voter protection staffers and recruiting and training volunteers in key states.

Democrats launch massive legal campaign on voting ahead of 2020

The effort includes millions of donor dollars and groups from party committees to nonprofits.

www.politico.com

Cheating would be disqualifying legitimate voters on spurious grounds.

 

[EatTheRich]

Not a good bet...Take away welfare and lets see how that changes your willingness to bet.

Seems pretty arbitrary. Voters choose candidates based on their policy proposals.

 

[EatTheRich]

Prison should be a place that people never want to go to and the loss of privileges should be a deterrent. If you want a crappy run government where the budget is never balanced and terrorist are welcomed as heroes, then don't do the crime so you can vote for a Democratic.

If you want those things, shouldn’t you vote Republican?

 

[EatTheRich]

It was the old white republican men that ended slavery
so you're saying old black men are educated?

And it was the Conservative Democrats who introduced felon disfranchisement during the Reconstruction Era in an effort to find a way to limit Black voting. The idea ... find a Black guy, especially a political one ... convict him of some stupid crap that wasn’t a felony before the Civil War ... take away his right to vote forever. Pretty much how it works today.