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Freedom of Speech vs Technology.

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Freedom of speech these days basically doesn't exist. What if they had internet forums back in the day of George Washington. Would he still have supported freedom of speech? No doubt he would. Forums - "private entities" my ass. Where humans can communicate with each other is where the fundamental human right of freedom of speech should exist. Especially when that freedom of speech means speaking the truth. I will show you some memes concerning freedom of speech. How many will you agree with.



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Here's an interesting take on Free speech... it's educational/informative and worth reading. IMO

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The First Amendment in the age of disinformation.
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The business model for the dominant platforms depends on keeping users engaged online. Content that prompts hot emotion tends to succeed at generating clicks and shares, and that’s what the platforms’ algorithms tend to promote. Lies go viral more quickly than true statements, research shows.

In many ways, social media sites today function as the public square. But legally speaking, internet platforms can restrict free speech far more than the government can. They’re like malls, where private owners police conduct. Facebook, YouTube and Twitter have guidelines that moderate content that could drive
away users, including spam and pornography, and also certain forms of harassment, hate speech, fake engagement or misrepresentation and violent extremism. But for years, the companies enforced these rules subjectively and unevenly — allowing for explosions of anti-Semitic memes and targeted harassment of women, for example.

Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook and Jack Dorsey of Twitter have each said that their sites cannot be “arbiters of truth” and make important exceptions to their guidelines.
The Problem of Free Speech in an Age of Disinformation - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
 
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Here's an interesting take on Free speech... it's educational/informative and worth reading. IMO

___________________________________________________________
The First Amendment in the age of disinformation.
snip -------
The business model for the dominant platforms depends on keeping users engaged online. Content that prompts hot emotion tends to succeed at generating clicks and shares, and that’s what the platforms’ algorithms tend to promote. Lies go viral more quickly than true statements, research shows.

In many ways, social media sites today function as the public square. But legally speaking, internet platforms can restrict free speech far more than the government can. They’re like malls, where private owners police conduct. Facebook, YouTube and Twitter have guidelines that moderate content that could drive
away users, including spam and pornography, and also certain forms of harassment, hate speech, fake engagement or misrepresentation and violent extremism. But for years, the companies enforced these rules subjectively and unevenly — allowing for explosions of anti-Semitic memes and targeted harassment of women, for example.

Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook and Jack Dorsey of Twitter have each said that their sites cannot be “arbiters of truth” and make important exceptions to their guidelines.
The Problem of Free Speech in an Age of Disinformation - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
An interesting way to change the subject. And an interesting load of crap. From what I have seen, the "business model" of forums is to steer clear of anything that can prompt "hot emotion." All they want is happy talk. Or talk that doesn't make people think too much. Because they know that is where their widest audience can be found.

As for internet platforms, they shouldn't be allowed to restrict free speech. It may be good for business. But they can take their business and shove it up their ass. Business - capitalism is destroying out planet. At an exponential rate. The mall analogy also falls flat. Anything you can't do in public you can't do in any store either. So businesses are protected without having to make up their own rules. Though they can say in my opinion, "No shoes, no shirt, no service."

Next, I couldn't tell you how often some forum has banned me for posting "spam." It wasn't true. I wasn't trying to sell anything. All I did was tell the truth to the best of my ability. If it had already been said, too fukin bad. As for harassment, it's a joke. I will post a video concerning the whole george floyd thing that youtube removed because they considered it "harassment." As for porn, it's ok to ban that at a political forum. There are plenty of other forums out there for that sort of thing.

Here is the video that youtube banned because they considered it to be "harassment."

https://www.100free.com/view?v=2129820672
 

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Promoting propaganda, lies and misinformation has become a sure fire way to stray away from the truth. Hearing outlandish, repetitious lies have an effect on certain personality types. The lies keep perpetuating then -- by the believers.

Give me the boring truth any time, I prefer it.

Outlandish, fury raising topics seems to work with certain types of Media outlets -- their bread stays buttered by promoting such outlandish and over the top rhetoric.
Even Trump, used a clever stunt, beginning in the early days of his presidency labeling those disagreeing with him as the Fake news media. This reveals a lot about how low the standards are these days regarding facts and undistorted news.

The article I linked you to wasn't meant to change the subject as you suggested. It's well written and self explanatory.
 
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Promoting propaganda, lies and misinformation has become a sure fire way to stray away from the truth. Hearing outlandish, repetitious lies have an effect on certain personality types. The lies keep perpetuating then -- by the believers.

Give me the boring truth any time, I prefer it.

Outlandish, fury raising topics seems to work with certain types of Media outlets -- their bread stays buttered by promoting such outlandish and over the top rhetoric.
Even Trump, used a clever stunt, beginning in the early days of his presidency labeling those disagreeing with him as the Fake news media. This reveals a lot about how low the standards are these days regarding facts and undistorted news.

The article I linked you to wasn't meant to change the subject as you suggested. It's well written and self explanatory.

I don't promote anything but the truth. Call it "propaganda" if you will. I don't keep getting banned from forums for speaking lies. I get banned for speaking the truth. Because most people prefer lies. When I smash forum members cults, they cry to the mods. Who, preferring lies themselves, ban me.

Next, I will tell you the same thing I have often told others at other forums. If you think anything I said anywhere is wrong, just tell me what it is and why. I can fix that. You then bring up how popular lies are. Well with most people preferring lies, are you surprised? As for changing the subject, maybe I went a little overboard with that. I don't really care what some idiot had to say about freedom of speech. I'm more interested in what you have to say on the topic.
 

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I don't promote anything but the truth. Call it "propaganda" if you will. I don't keep getting banned from forums for speaking lies. I get banned for speaking the truth. Because most people prefer lies. When I smash forum members cults, they cry to the mods. Who, preferring lies themselves, ban me.

Next, I will tell you the same thing I have often told others at other forums. If you think anything I said anywhere is wrong, just tell me what it is and why. I can fix that. You then bring up how popular lies are. Well with most people preferring lies, are you surprised? As for changing the subject, maybe I went a little overboard with that. I don't really care what some idiot had to say about freedom of speech. I'm more interested in what you have to say on the topic.
I don't know what you have been saying on other boards or forums. Were you saying defamatory things or wanting to incite violence? Some facets of free speech actually have some limitations.
I have no way of knowing your intentions, sorry.
 
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I don't know what you have been saying on other boards or forums. Were you saying defamatory things or wanting to incite violence? Some facets of free speech actually have some limitations.
I have no way of knowing your intentions, sorry.
What I have said at other forums is exactly what I am saying here. Next, my intentions are the TRUTH. Let it lead where it may. No matter what, the truth is better than lies.
 
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