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From the "There is very little Biden could have done about it" Files: OPEC+ agrees deep oil production cuts

PNWest

America's BEST American: Impartial and Bipartisan
OPEC+ agrees deep oil production cuts, Biden calls it shortsighted

Another day - another thing that Biden apologists will say "There is very little Biden could do about it".
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
OPEC+ agrees deep oil production cuts, Biden calls it shortsighted

Another day - another thing that Biden apologists will say "There is very little Biden could do about it".
Actually, all realists say that.

Or have you identified something Biden could have done to prevent OPEC from doing what they did?
 

PNWest

America's BEST American: Impartial and Bipartisan
Translation: No, I can’t identify anything Biden could have done to prevent OPEC from doing what they did.

Check.

Had they feared or respected him he could have made it happen. Because he is a weak President the Saudis know that he will do nothing to retaliate. And he won't.

But that's OK because you can always trot out the same old Biden excuse - "There really isn't much he can do about it".
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
OPEC+ agrees deep oil production cuts, Biden calls it shortsighted

Another day - another thing that Biden apologists will say "There is very little Biden could do about it".

Leaders find a way to get things done.

Our President so often seems to be little more than a spectator to world events...Where is his team?
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Had they feared or respected him he could have made it happen. Because he is a weak President the Saudis know that he will do nothing to retaliate. And he won't.

But that's OK because you can always trot out the same old Biden excuse - "There really isn't much he can do about it".
Looks like Biden needs to eat more spinach.

;-)
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Had they feared or respected him he could have made it happen. Because he is a weak President the Saudis know that he will do nothing to retaliate. And he won't.

But that's OK because you can always trot out the same old Biden excuse - "There really isn't much he can do about it".
Seriously though, don’t you know what’s going on? Saudi Arabia is partners with the Trump crime family. They benefitted by Team Trump’s egregious conflicts of interest when dealing with Saudi Arabia. And, needless to say, Putin would like to get Trump back in power - Trump spent four years glorifying Putin, tearing down the US, and kneecapping Ukraine. Blaming Biden for what they are doing for their own corrupt purposes is daft.
 

RickWA

Senator
Seriously though, don’t you know what’s going on? Saudi Arabia is partners with the Trump crime family. They benefitted by Team Trump’s egregious conflicts of interest when dealing with Saudi Arabia. And, needless to say, Putin would like to get Trump back in power - Trump spent four years glorifying Putin, tearing down the US, and kneecapping Ukraine. Blaming Biden for what they are doing for their own corrupt purposes is daft.
Geeze! Now they’re platooning the Biden excuse-making formula…coupling “There’s nothing Biden can do about it” with “Trump!!!”

Good heavens - the actual current sitting president…blameless. A former douche president, loooong gone from power… BLAMED.

This crap isn’t funny anymore. We’re NEVER going to have decent political leadership with this crap. It isn’t just retarded - it’s willful dereliction of citizenship.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Geeze! Now they’re platooning the Biden excuse-making formula…coupling “There’s nothing Biden can do about it” with “Trump!!!”

Good heavens - the actual current sitting president…blameless. A former douche president, loooong gone from power… BLAMED.

This crap isn’t funny anymore. We’re NEVER going to have decent political leadership with this crap. It isn’t just retarded - it’s willful dereliction of citizenship.
I would ask you to confront what I said and try to refute it, but I know you are only capable of making noise. You are literally useless.
 

RickWA

Senator
I would ask you to confront what I said and try to refute it, but I know you are only capable of making noise. You are literally useless.
You think I…or anyone…is going to “confront” your nonsense about Saudi-Putin-Trump conspiracy while Trump is out of office? You have once again demonstrated that you will write ANYTHING to defend ALL Democrats.

This. Is. CRAZED.

Biden is the current President of the United States. You will NEVER hold any Democrat to account. Ever.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
You think I…or anyone…is going to “confront” your nonsense about Saudi-Putin-Trump conspiracy while Trump is out of office? You have once again demonstrated that you will write ANYTHING to defend ALL Democrats.

This. Is. CRAZED.

Biden is the current President of the United States. You will NEVER hold any Democrat to account. Ever.
Go bore someone else with your vapid idiocy. You have nothing of value to say.
 

RickWA

Senator
Go bore someone else with your vapid idiocy. You have nothing of value to say.
It’s just crazy. Iran and Russia are cozy. Have been for decades. Saudi is entirely on the other side of the fence. All three regimes are awful, but for some bonehead internet hack to start charging that the Saudis are actively coordinating with the Russo-Persian team is beyond assinine…let alone invoking “Trump!!!” yet again. And you call the statements of others “vapid” or “inane”.

It sure would be swell if some honest lefties would call you out on this trash.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
It’s just crazy. Iran and Russia are cozy. Have been for decades. Saudi is entirely on the other side of the fence. All three regimes are awful, but for some bonehead internet hack to start charging that the Saudis are actively coordinating with the Russo-Persian team is beyond assinine…let alone invoking “Trump!!!” yet again. And you call the statements of others “vapid” or “inane”.

It sure would be swell if some honest lefties would call you out on this trash.
Looks like I shamed you into at least partially addressing what I said, mixed in with more boring drivel. Baby steps.

Try to stretch your abilities - try to refute the facts in my post. Try to explain why you say it doesn’t make sense. No ranting; just a responsive post.

Good luck!
 

RickWA

Senator
Looks like I shamed you into at least partially addressing what I said, mixed in with more boring drivel. Baby steps.

Try to stretch your abilities - try to refute the facts in my post. Try to explain why you say it doesn’t make sense. No ranting; just a responsive post.

Good luck!
Ok, just so we are clear…you have stated outright that Biden has presided of an historic alignment and alliance of Saudi Arabia/Wahabi Islam with Iran/Shia Islam… ending centuries and centuries of butchery, violence, and enmity, both political and Islamic religious HATRED…all to usher in another Trump term. I want you on record as affirming this rather than DODGING IT. The Saudis have joined the Russo/Persian alliance? Yes?
 

PNWest

America's BEST American: Impartial and Bipartisan
Seriously though, don’t you know what’s going on? Saudi Arabia is partners with the Trump crime family. They benefitted by Team Trump’s egregious conflicts of interest when dealing with Saudi Arabia. And, needless to say, Putin would like to get Trump back in power - Trump spent four years glorifying Putin, tearing down the US, and kneecapping Ukraine. Blaming Biden for what they are doing for their own corrupt purposes is daft.
Let's say that you are correct. Then it should have been obvious from the get-go that Biden wouldn't be able to convince the Saudis not to cut production. That's your argument.

OK - if this were the case then is was stupid as all f*ck to tell people that he was doing everything in his power to keep oil production levels up. BIDEN chose to make that public. BIDEN did think he could influence the Saudis. That's clear. He failed.... again.

Even assuming that all of your conjectures are right Biden comes out of this looking weaker.

But your comment to the other poster was spot on :)
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Ok, just so we are clear…you have stated outright that Biden has presided of an historic alignment and alliance of Saudi Arabia/Wahabi Islam with Iran/Shia Islam… ending centuries and centuries of butchery, violence, and enmity, both political and Islamic religious HATRED…all to usher in another Trump term. I want you on record as affirming this rather than DODGING IT. The Saudis have joined the Russo/Persian alliance? Yes?
I wonder if you even know that you completely “re-wrote” what I actually said. If not, you need psychotherapy. If so, you’re just a run of the mill GOP cultist liar.

Either way, I am obviously not chasing you down your weird rabbit hole. Respond to what I actually said - trying to refute its stated facts or conclusions - or be gone. I think your mind has been so fried by your GOP propagandists that you’re incapable of doing that.
 

RickWA

Senator
I wonder if you even know that you completely “re-wrote” what I actually said. If not, you need psychotherapy. If so, you’re just a run of the mill GOP cultist liar.

Either way, I am obviously not chasing you down your weird rabbit hole. Respond to what I actually said - trying to refute its stated facts or conclusions - or be gone. I think your mind has been so fried by your GOP propagandists that you’re incapable of doing that.
Dude, your fealty is shameful. You aren’t even a person at this point. You’ve surrendered your very humanity and personhood. How awful for you.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Let's say that you are correct. Then it should have been obvious from the get-go that Biden wouldn't be able to convince the Saudis not to cut production. That's your argument.

OK - if this were the case then is was stupid as all f*ck to tell people that he was doing everything in his power to keep oil production levels up. BIDEN chose to make that public. BIDEN did think he could influence the Saudis. That's clear. He failed.... again.

Even assuming that all of your conjectures are right Biden comes out of this looking weaker.

But your comment to the other poster was spot on :)
I see nothing wrong with trying to convince the Saudi depot to keep supplies up even though it was a longshot. Indeed, in the absence of the corrupt Trump crime family/Putin/Saudi alliance, my belief is that the overture to the Saudis would have been successful. But the corrupt alliance prevented that from happening for the reasons I stated. I just don’t think Biden should be blamed for that corrupt alliance and its consequences.
 
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