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Game on: North Korea is going down

There is a tremendous amount of evidence that suggests manned space flight is a hoax. I'm not convinced either way, but this much I am sure of; re-entry of any vehicle has to happen at very slow speeds; aluminum melts at 1100 degrees (F).
If we ain't ventured out yet - we won't be venturing in again any time soon Days ;)

We are stuck here on this planet - every time things get too hot for Politicos they always say and point 'look over there!' - be it Saddam or Hitler or Gaddafi or the Moon - and tell us 'don't worry' 'we are superman' - but make us tremble just a little to keep us compliant or awe struck.

A friend of my daughter's lives in South Korea, they are laughing at all of this ---------- so if they are not afraid, if they think it is all a bs circus, why should we take it seriously?
 

Days

Commentator
If we ain't ventured out yet - we won't be venturing in again any time soon Days ;)

We are stuck here on this planet - every time things get too hot for Politicos they always say and point 'look over there!' - be it Saddam or Hitler or Gaddafi or the Moon - and tell us 'don't worry' 'we are superman' - but make us tremble just a little to keep us compliant or awe struck.

A friend of my daughter's lives in South Korea, they are laughing at all of this ---------- so if they are not afraid, if they think it is all a bs circus, why should we take it seriously?
It's a bs circus, that's for sure. We are using this to train the new Navy. It is a win-win for Trump, anything that happens to scale back North Korean taunting and testing is better than the Bush-Obama era, and the Navy gets to do all these joint drills with the Japanese and South Koreans; training for the most powerful armada ever assembled in the Pacific.

But when ever you see all this power brought to bear on one spot... there is going to be consequences. The temptation to pull the trigger comes into play. The fear of that happening should make the Koreans get serious about ending their stupid war already.
 
It's a bs circus, that's for sure. We are using this to train the new Navy. It is a win-win for Trump, anything that happens to scale back North Korean taunting and testing is better than the Bush-Obama era, and the Navy gets to do all these joint drills with the Japanese and South Koreans; training for the most powerful armada ever assembled in the Pacific.

But when ever you see all this power brought to bear on one spot... there is going to be consequences. The temptation to pull the trigger comes into play. The fear of that happening should make the Koreans get serious about ending their stupid war already.
The Koreans are at war?

Oh I know, this is all about the gravy boat 'the war machine' ------------- war is just business :(
 
It's a bs circus, that's for sure. We are using this to train the new Navy. It is a win-win for Trump, anything that happens to scale back North Korean taunting and testing is better than the Bush-Obama era, and the Navy gets to do all these joint drills with the Japanese and South Koreans; training for the most powerful armada ever assembled in the Pacific.

But when ever you see all this power brought to bear on one spot... there is going to be consequences. The temptation to pull the trigger comes into play. The fear of that happening should make the Koreans get serious about ending their stupid war already.
That is the other thing always too, isn't it? That we are always told of the aggression of the new devil but what the US ( I have to say America, though others are involved) has been up to that the new devil be aggressive in the first place ------------ though Iran have never risen to the bait, North Korea has with a few little rockets.
 
Will the US try to denuclearise North Korea by force? - Inside Story



N. Korea vows response to 'reckless' U.S. move, says ready for 'war'
AFP - Monday, April 10, 2017

SEOUL, South Korea — North Korea denounced Washington's deployment of a naval strike group to the Korean peninsula Tuesday, warning it was ready for "war" in a further escalation of tensions.
The Carl Vinson strike group cancelled a planned trip to Australia this weekend to head to the region, in a show of force as Washington signalled it may act to shut down Pyongyang's nuclear capabilities.
"This goes to prove that the US reckless moves for invading the DPRK have reached a serious phase," a spokesman for the North's foreign ministry said according to state news agency KCNA.
"The DPRK is ready to react to any mode of war desired by the US," he said, using the country's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
President Donald Trump, fresh from ordering a missile strike on Syria that was widely interpreted as a warning to North Korea, has asked his advisors for a range of options to rein in Pyongyang, a top US official said Sunday.
Trump has previously threatened unilateral action against Pyongyang if China -- the North's sole major ally -- fails to help curb its neighbour's nuclear weapons ambitions.
But Pyongyang's response suggested the reclusive state is determined to continue on its current path, despite repeated rounds of United Nations sanctions.
"We will take the toughest counteraction against the provocateurs in order to defend ourselves by powerful force of arms," the foreign ministry spokesman said.
"We will hold the US wholly accountable for the catastrophic consequences to be entailed by its outrageous actions."

- Sixth test? -

Speculation over an imminent nuclear test is brewing as the North marks anniversaries including the 105th birthday of its founding leader on Saturday -- sometimes celebrated with a demonstration of military might.
Pyongyang is on a quest to develop a long-range missile capable of hitting the US mainland with a nuclear warhead, and has so far staged five nuclear tests, two of them last year.
Satellite imagery analysis suggests it could be preparing for a sixth, with intelligence officials warning it could be less than two years away from achieving the ability to strike the continental United States.
Seoul and Washington are also currently conducting joint military drills, an annual exercise which is seen by the North as a preparation for invasion.
South Korea's top nuclear envoy said Monday after talks with his Chinese counterpart that the two nations had agreed to "strong" new measures to punish Pyongyang if it carried out another nuclear test.
The talks came shortly after Trump hosted Chinese leader Xi Jinping for a summit at which he pressed Beijing to do more to curb the North's nuclear ambitions.
"(We) are prepared to chart our own course if this is something China is just unable to coordinate with us," US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said after the summit.
US National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster on Sunday criticised North Korea as a rogue nation engaged in provocative behaviour and said denuclearisation of the peninsula "must happen".
"The president has asked them to be prepared to give us a full range of options to remove that threat," he said on Fox News, apparently referring to Trump's advisers.
South Korea's Unification Minister Hong Yong-Pyo said Monday that the repercussions of a potential military response were worrying.
"Pre-emptive strikes may be aimed at resolving North Korea's nuclear problems, but for us, it is also related to defending the safety of the public," he told reporters.
While a US unilateral strike on North Korea from a shorter range might be more effective, it would likely endanger many civilians in the South and risk triggering a broader military conflict, experts warn.
Both China and Russia have deployed troops to their border with North Korea as a defensive measure should hostilities break out. China, if they wanted could invade, occupy and control the DPRK any time they want and don’t need Trumps permission to do so.
 

Fast Eddy

Mayor
I think North Korea wants to join the world and is using this whole thing to get a leg up on business and trade development. I'm betting they will agree to denuclearise for business considerations. A deal will be struck and there will be Nobel peace prizes for everyone. It will end 65 years of war and will allow us to remove standing army. Everyone will gain by this if the deal works out properly.
 

Jen

Trump 2020
I think North Korea wants to join the world and is using this whole thing to get a leg up on business and trade development. I'm betting they will agree to denuclearise for business considerations. A deal will be struck and there will be Nobel peace prizes for everyone. It will end 65 years of war and will allow us to remove standing army. Everyone will gain by this if the deal works out properly.
This is how I would like to see it work out. NK went about becoming part of the world in all the wrong ways. Maybe the right way will be found now.
 
I think North Korea wants to join the world and is using this whole thing to get a leg up on business and trade development. I'm betting they will agree to denuclearise for business considerations. A deal will be struck and there will be Nobel peace prizes for everyone. It will end 65 years of war and will allow us to remove standing army. Everyone will gain by this if the deal works out properly.
And how will Trump verify that North Korea denuclearized?
 

EatTheRich

President
I think North Korea wants to join the world and is using this whole thing to get a leg up on business and trade development. I'm betting they will agree to denuclearise for business considerations. A deal will be struck and there will be Nobel peace prizes for everyone. It will end 65 years of war and will allow us to remove standing army. Everyone will gain by this if the deal works out properly.
N. Korea's willingness to compromise has never been the obstacle.
 
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