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Colorforms

Senator
Your first claim is simply untrue. Racial gerrymanders and voter suppression are essential to continued Republican electoral success. “Democracy” means rule by the people … not rule over the people by a potentially tyrannical state as under the Dobbs decision.
Lefties think that any law that restricts the ability to cheat is "voter suppression". I dismiss that off the top. Democrats embrace gerrymandering as much, if not more, than republicans. Republicans just don't publicly whine about it.

And giving voice to the people is the opposite of a "tyrannical state". I guess not if you're a fascist though.
 

EatTheRich

President
Lefties think that any law that restricts the ability to cheat is "voter suppression". I dismiss that off the top. Democrats embrace gerrymandering as much, if not more, than republicans. Republicans just don't publicly whine about it.

And giving voice to the people is the opposite of a "tyrannical state". I guess not if you're a fascist though.
Racial gerrymandering benefits the Republicans far more since their voting base is so much whiter. No one is talking about “cheating.” We are talking about making people of color jump through hoops to be able to vote, just so fewer of them get the opportunity to vote against Republicans.

Roe v. Wade let the people decide. Dobbs v. Jackson took that decision away from the people and gave it to the state.
 

Colorforms

Senator
Racial gerrymandering benefits the Republicans far more since their voting base is so much whiter. No one is talking about “cheating.” We are talking about making people of color jump through hoops to be able to vote, just so fewer of them get the opportunity to vote against Republicans.

Roe v. Wade let the people decide. Dobbs v. Jackson took that decision away from the people and gave it to the state.
More democrat talking point programming.


Democrats thrive on gerrymandering just as much if not more than republicans.
 

EatTheRich

President
More democrat talking point programming.


Democrats thrive on gerrymandering just as much if not more than republicans.
18 of 27 (two-thirds) of 2020-2022 maps mathematically demonstrated to be de facto racial gerrymanders that diluted minority voting power were drawn by Republicans
 

Spamature

President
But it was the industrial organizing drive that lit the fire under them, forcing them to give enough concessions to the opportunist labor leaders so their political allies in the Socialist and Communist Parties and on the left wing of the Democratic Party would be able to point to something to justify their capitulation to the capitalist center.

The Republicans have a nose for power because they are enabled by the feckless opposition of a sham left opposition, which is as fully owned by the business interests as they are but which has tactical differences about the pace and timing of the class war.

An artificial bloc of political representatives of labor and capital, in the circumstances of capitalist rule, can only be maintained through labor giving up its voice in order to second the ever-diminishing political aspirations of the “moderate” capitalists. The widespread public despair at the paltry attention to the public weal by these chiselers explains the rise of right-wing populists like Trump who promise the kind of radicalism the Democrats carefully eschew.
And what in the world makes you think that a newly created party would end up the same way or worse. Those same forces will have hands in what ever it is you want to create from its inception. Hell, ALEC would probably end up with the final editorial say on its charter.

If we've learned any, it's that the rank a file members fall in line behind strong, crafty leaders. Mitch and The Donald proved that without a doubt. The voters are even easier if you have the right propaganda. Look at how they got their voters to swallow fascism whole without a second thought.

Paint the old car and tell them it's the new this year's model.

At least they know it beats walking.
 

Spamature

President
Gay marriage has never been in the government interest. Procreating - progeny making - marriage on the other hand has been. There is no need to codify homosexual sexual practices into a marriage contract other than to normalize those acts. Gay pride is about being proud that you have anal sex.:rolleyes:

If gay marriage was useful in limiting promiscuity maybe gay marriage would be in the states interest because then the usual reservoir of death and disease the community represents could be mitigated. It is NO coincidence that It was today. Neither was MRSA, hepatitis, AIDS, ... and on and on... a coincidence.

Never mind homosexuality is a mental illness that needs talk therapy much like alcoholism does to get over (if ever). Gay marriage only indemnifies the mental illness and makes it worse for the practicing individuals and encourages others to try the lifestyle.
It was in the govt's interest to vaccinated your religious crackpots and QAnon weirdos.

But for some reason you thought just the opposite about govt interest when it came to weirdo winger political habits that mix retarded conspiracy theories with obvious lies, you were very much against the govt taking interest. Even while your nuts jobs were taking interest in the overthrow of said govt.

Again, you have a lot of nerve.

But thanks for letting me know I missed this hypocritical doozy.
 
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God of War

Lets go Brandon!
It was in the govt's interest to vaccinated your religious crackpots and QAnon weirdos.

But for some reason you thought just the opposite about govt interest when it came to weirdo winger political habits that mix retarded conspiracy theories without obvious lies, you very much against the govt taking interest. Even while your nuts jobs were taking interest in overthrow said govt.

Again, you have a lot of nerve.

But thanks for letting me know I missed this hypocritical doozy.
You have the seed of a good argument.

Arguably, of course, it was in the government's interest to create a vaccine and get as many people vaccinated as possible. But the vaccine was being promoted by the globalist-communists on a compulsory basis right? Nobody is interested in forcing state sanctioned gay marriage or not on gay people to end promiscuity and therefor end higher incidence of death and disease. Besides with a gay marriage law already it doesn't work. They aren't getting married and the prevalence of disease is not lessening. Maybe the notion of gay marriage validates bi-h0mo-sexual promiscuity and makes the problem worse for government.

What's in it for government to have gay marriage. What is the concrete benefit to them? And therefore larger society as a whole.
 
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EatTheRich

President
And what in the world makes you think that a newly created party would end up the same way or worse. Those same forces will have hands in what ever it is you want to create from its inception. Hell, ALEC would probably end up with the final editorial say on its charter.

If we've learned any, it's that the rank a file members fall in line behind strong, crafty leaders. Mitch and The Donald proved that without a doubt. The voters are even easier if you have the right propaganda. Look at how they got their voters to swallow fascism whole without a second thought.

Paint the old car and tell them it's the new this year's model.

At least they know it beats walking.
Obviously there are counterrevolutionary unions, labor parties, and workers’ states. But class independence in and of itself impels organs of social power in a revolutionary direction (indeed, the counterrevolutionary regression represents a loss of class independence). And bourgeois organizations are by definition counterrevolutionary.
 

Spamature

President
You have the seed of a good argument.

Arguably, of course, it was in the government's interest to create a vaccine and get as many people vaccinated as possible. But the vaccine was being promoted by the globalist-communists on a compulsory basis right? Nobody is interested in forcing state sanctioned gay marriage or not on gay people to end promiscuity and therefor end higher incidence of death and disease. Besides with a gay marriage law already it doesn't work. They aren't getting married and the prevalence of disease is not lessening. Maybe the notion of gay marriage validates bi-Cuomo-sexual promiscuity and makes the problem worse for government.

What's in it for government to have gay marriage. What is the concrete benefit to them? And therefore larger society as a whole.
No vaccination was not made compulsory for private citizens of this country, and that QAnonism about globalist communist is one of those retarded conspiracy theories I told you about.

Yes, you want to do for gay sex what you don't do for straight sex. Try to regulate who can marry or have sex with whom. But then again you are the people who want to strike down interracial marriage, and likely interracial sex too, along with gay marriage.


Gay marriage is EVERYTHING to the govt.
Because the protection of all our rights and freedoms is the entire reason we have one in the first place.
 

write on

Senator
More democrat talking point programming.


Democrats thrive on gerrymandering just as much if not more than republicans.
How do you fight racial gerrymandering?

Lay down and give up?


An older article but it is the same today as it was then.
 

Colorforms

Senator
How do you fight racial gerrymandering?

Lay down and give up?


An older article but it is the same today as it was then.
So you believe that you know when "racial gerrymandering" is occurring or are you just waiting for marching orders?

Democrats tried to convince the people of Wisconsin that it was the republicans that were practicing racial gerrymandering, and, of course, it turns out that not only were the democrats the ones practicing it, but that most of the maps they drew were illegal anyway.

It does make me laugh at how easily lefties are manipulated though. :)
 

write on

Senator
So you believe that you know when "racial gerrymandering" is occurring or are you just waiting for marching orders?

Democrats tried to convince the people of Wisconsin that it was the republicans that were practicing racial gerrymandering, and, of course, it turns out that not only were the democrats the ones practicing it, but that most of the maps they drew were illegal anyway.

It does make me laugh at how easily lefties are manipulated though. :)
Why the long lines at polls that vote Democrat?

Hell, the right wing fascists won't stop anything from getting in their way when they get down with their attempt at voter suppression.

 

Colorforms

Senator
Why the long lines at polls that vote Democrat?

Hell, the right wing fascists think of everything when they get down with their attempt at voter suppression.

https://www.businessinsider.com/republicans-block-plan-allow-voters-standing-line-to-receive-water-2021-5
Because democrats suck and setting up polling places in their districts. They couldn't give a rats ass about blacks.

These places aren't run by republicans. Hell, in many cases, republicans haven't had a stronghold in these districts for over 100 years.

So if you're asking why the long lines, look to the democrats in charge of setting up polling in those districts.
 

write on

Senator
Because democrats suck and setting up polling places in their districts. They couldn't give a rats ass about blacks.

These places aren't run by republicans. Hell, in many cases, republicans haven't had a stronghold in these districts for over 100 years.

So if you're asking why the long lines, look to the democrats in charge of setting up polling in those districts.
You won't answer the searing question because for you to answer it would prove right wing intent.
 
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