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RickWA

Snagglesooth
Might be because China is already taking aggressive steps to curb greenhouse gas emissions.
THIS is a spectacular offering, ETR. While you clearly worship at the climate altar…it poses no match for your SUPERNOVA communist sensibilities. EVERYTHING is subservient to buttboy marxist commie pinko nonsense. Even the soot-encrusted snow flurries of the PRC (Peoples Republic of Coal).

I’m there a fair amount. You?
 

EatTheRich

President
THIS is a spectacular offering, ETR. While you clearly worship at the climate altar…it poses no match for your SUPERNOVA communist sensibilities. EVERYTHING is subservient to buttboy marxist commie pinko nonsense. Even the soot-encrusted snow flurries of the PRC (Peoples Republic of Coal).

I’m there a fair amount. You?
No, but from where I’m sitting China is dominated by capitalism yet nevertheless planning to reduce GHG emissions sharply, with emissions peaking by 2025, carbon intensity declining 65% from 2005 levels by 2030, and achieving carbon neutrality by 2060.
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
No, but from where I’m sitting China is dominated by capitalism yet nevertheless planning to reduce GHG emissions sharply, with emissions peaking by 2025, carbon intensity declining 65% from 2005 levels by 2030, and achieving carbon neutrality by 2060.
They are singularly the world’s premier polluter and signature emitter of greenhouse gases, along with every other sort of deathdealing toxin you can imagine. But cuddle and spoon those maniacally evil maggots. You do you. Literally. On a regular basis, it seems.
 

EatTheRich

President
They are singularly the world’s premier polluter and signature emitter of greenhouse gases, along with every other sort of deathdealing toxin you can imagine. But cuddle and spoon those maniacally evil maggots. You do you. Literally. On a regular basis, it seems.
China: 8.73 tons CO2 equivalent per capita annually
U.S.: 14.24 tons
 

EatTheRich

President
Um, China is more than four times the size of the United States population.

So, uh, math....
Comparing aggregate pollution is misleading when the question is what the government is doing to minimize pollution given the needs of feeding the population. Otherwise, you might as wel point out that every province in China pollutes less than the U.S. does as if that means something.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Comparing aggregate pollution is misleading when the question is what the government is doing to minimize pollution given the needs of feeding the population. Otherwise, you might as wel point out that every province in China pollutes less than the U.S. does as if that means something.
Um. Aggregate pollution in to the environment is inappropriate now? Do tell.

So four times the volume of something is irrelevant if you spread it out enough?
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
China: 8.73 tons CO2 equivalent per capita annually
U.S.: 14.24 tons
Dude, are you serious? You are going to try to volley THAT slop? Divide WRATH OF GOD emissions by a billion rural farmers to game the “per capita” stats you seek for your evil commies?

I’m an actual chemist. Do you think the planet CARES what the denominator is while unrivaled QUANTITIES of poisons are being pumped into the atmosphere 24x7?

Here we have YET ANOTHER data point that leftists DO NOT CARE about what they claim to care about. Like crime, violence, race, gender bs, hunger, etc… environmentalism and climate are likewise Trojan Horses for marxism. You seek to downplay China’s uniquely horrific polluter status by dividing it among latent interior headcount rather than objective measure of planet-choking poisons.

Yep. Thanks for the data point…as if another was needed.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member

middleview

President
Supporting Member
The problem they are having is related to component failures that require warranty service on a large scale. Do you have a point?

 

EatTheRich

President
Um. Aggregate pollution in to the environment is inappropriate now? Do tell.

So four times the volume of something is irrelevant if you spread it out enough?
True or false … 62% of the world’s carbon emissions come from someplace other than China?
 

EatTheRich

President
Dude, are you serious? You are going to try to volley THAT slop? Divide WRATH OF GOD emissions by a billion rural farmers to game the “per capita” stats you seek for your evil commies?

I’m an actual chemist. Do you think the planet CARES what the denominator is while unrivaled QUANTITIES of poisons are being pumped into the atmosphere 24x7?

Here we have YET ANOTHER data point that leftists DO NOT CARE about what they claim to care about. Like crime, violence, race, gender bs, hunger, etc… environmentalism and climate are likewise Trojan Horses for marxism. You seek to downplay China’s uniquely horrific polluter status by dividing it among latent interior headcount rather than objective measure of planet-choking poisons.

Yep. Thanks for the data point…as if another was needed.
China is a highly industrialized society which has high emissions ONLY because it has such a large population. If the rest of the industrialized world had equally low per capita emissions we’d be in a much better position.
 
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