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Great Sea Battles Are Gone Forever

Flanders

Council Member
The Day Of Infamy on December 7, 1941 was an attack —— it was not a heroic battle fought by iron ships and iron men. Indeed, WWII battleships have been museum pieces for decades.


USS MISSOURI


USS NEW JERSEY

There will never be another great battle between surface ships . Even aircraft carrier battle groups are peacetime weapons made obsolete by intercontinental missiles, drones armed with missiles, and deadly accurate torpedoes. In fact, the next world war will be won by submarines launching nuclear missiles from deep in the sea. Those undersea boats will never see an enemy ship. With that observation in mind I want to cite a few of the last great sea battles.

I will begin in 1939:



Admiral Graf Spee shortly after her scuttling


Funeral procession of a sailor from the Graf Spee. At Captain Langsdorff’s funeral the pallbearers were officers. Captain Langsdorff, shot himself on 20 December, after scuttling his ship on 17 December.

The Hunt for the Pride of the German Navy – Admiral Graf Spee
WORLD WAR II
Feb 28, 2019
Christian Oord, Guest Author


THE BATTLE OF MIDWAY





THE BISMARCK



Germany had one colorful victory. They make movies about this one:





ROYAL OAK


U-47, a 753-ton Type VIIB submarine built at Kiel, Germany was commissioned in December 1938. On 14 October 1939, in a carefully planned operation, she made a daring penetration of the British fleet anchorage at Scapa Flow and sank the battleship Royal Oak. This feat made U-47 and her commanding officer, Kapitänleutnant Günther Prien, World-famous. Over the following year and a half, the two achieved continued successes against Allied shipping. Finally, on 8 March 1941, while attacking a convoy south of Iceland, U-47 was destroyed by the British destroyer Wolverine, killing Prien and his entire crew.


 

bdtex

Administrator
Staff member
Good post. To my knowledge, Midway was the largest naval battle ever where the 2 opposing surface fleets never saw each other.

There were 1 or 2 epic night time engagements between surface fleets in the Solomon Islands too.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Good post. To my knowledge, Midway was the largest naval battle ever where the 2 opposing surface fleets never saw each other.

There were 1 or 2 epic night time engagements between surface fleets in the Solomon Islands too.
There were a number of ship to ship battles during WWII. In one a squadron of US destroyers took on Japanese cruisers and a battleship. Heroic and lopsided, but the US Destroyers turned the Japanese fleet back.


The battle of Leyte gulf was one of the largest naval battles ever and the last between battleships.
 

Flanders

Council Member
There were a number of ship to ship battles during WWII. In one a squadron of US destroyers took on Japanese cruisers and a battleship. Heroic and lopsided, but the US Destroyers turned the Japanese fleet back.


The battle of Leyte gulf was one of the largest naval battles ever and the last between battleships.
There were a number of ship to ship battles during WWII. In one a squadron of US destroyers took on Japanese cruisers and a battleship. Heroic and lopsided, but the US Destroyers turned the Japanese fleet back.


The battle of Leyte gulf was one of the largest naval battles ever and the last between battleships.
To bdtex & middleview: Lets go back to ancient times when ships under sail were assisted by men manning oars.


Next came wooden ships and iron men:

"England expects that every man will do his duty."


The American Revolution gave us today’s U.S. Marine Corps.

Marines were born firing muskets from the rigging at the men on the decks of enemy ships.



When the ships were close enough grappling hooks pulled the ships together so marines could board the enemy vessel. Hence, to this day U.S. Marines are often the first landing force.




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WWI planes dropping mustard gas on ground troops was the beginning of air power.



Basically, technology advances but nothing changes.

Sad to say, governments are prisoners of technology. This country would commit suicide if it did not prepare for war against aggressive enemies Democrats protect and defend like China, Russia, and-soon-to-be nuclear Iran.


 
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Flanders

Council Member
A ‘must read’ informative article about great sea battles for anyone following this thread:

HISTORY

 
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Wahbooz

Governor
Being a member of Pacific Fleet I can't remember the number of times, entering or leaving Pearl, paying honors to both those crewmen who are with her and the Arizona.

Never forget.
 

Wahbooz

Governor
Today's wars aren't sea battles, wih huge battle wagons, they're mainly wars with SWCC's, SEALs, and Amphibs.

 
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