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Has Trump put us on war footing against CVD-19? Nope.

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
Associations representing physicians, hospitals and nurses are calling on President Trump to immediately use the Defense Production Act to intensify domestic production of medical supplies amid the outbreak of the novel coronavirus.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/488851-hospitals-nurses-call-on-trump-to-immediately-ramp-up-medical

I thought Trump fancied himself a war time president, yet he won't use the power he has to fully prepare for the battle.
That is already happening Julie. So much for the accuracy of Democrat's news sources.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
Trump won't/can't distribute what's stockpiled let alone use his power to ORDER the production of needed medical supplies.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo on Tuesday pleaded with the president of the United States to release 20,000 ventilators that have been stockpiled by the federal government.

During his daily pandemic briefing, Cuomo said that New York needs an additional 30,000 ventilators due to the spike in coronavirus cases.

“The federal government has 20,000 ventilators, or thereabouts, in the federal stockpile,” Cuomo explained. “Secretary [Alex Azar] runs an agency called HHS — Health and Human Services. I asked the secretary, ‘Look at the first word in the title of the agency you run. It is health. Your first priority is health. You have 20,000 ventilators in the stockpile. Release the ventilators to New York.'”..........................................
 
Trump won't/can't distribute what's stockpiled let alone use his power to ORDER the production of needed medical supplies.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo on Tuesday pleaded with the president of the United States to release 20,000 ventilators that have been stockpiled by the federal government.

During his daily pandemic briefing, Cuomo said that New York needs an additional 30,000 ventilators due to the spike in coronavirus cases.

“The federal government has 20,000 ventilators, or thereabouts, in the federal stockpile,” Cuomo explained. “Secretary [Alex Azar] runs an agency called HHS — Health and Human Services. I asked the secretary, ‘Look at the first word in the title of the agency you run. It is health. Your first priority is health. You have 20,000 ventilators in the stockpile. Release the ventilators to New York.'”..........................................
Here's the truth: Cuomo didn't bother to order more himself, he waiting for the president to do it for him. Trump told him to take care of it, he'd get them FASTER THAT WAY, without time consuming bureaucracy.
Fact is, Cuomo has been remarkably slow to impliment life saving measures compared to Mike DeWine, hasn't he?
And how about verifying the existence of 20,000 surplus ventilators? Who says they're surplus?

 

UPNYA2

Mayor
Trump won't/can't distribute what's stockpiled let alone use his power to ORDER the production of needed medical supplies.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo on Tuesday pleaded with the president of the United States to release 20,000 ventilators that have been stockpiled by the federal government.

During his daily pandemic briefing, Cuomo said that New York needs an additional 30,000 ventilators due to the spike in coronavirus cases.

“The federal government has 20,000 ventilators, or thereabouts, in the federal stockpile,” Cuomo explained. “Secretary [Alex Azar] runs an agency called HHS — Health and Human Services. I asked the secretary, ‘Look at the first word in the title of the agency you run. It is health. Your first priority is health. You have 20,000 ventilators in the stockpile. Release the ventilators to New York.'”..........................................

SO let's all slow down a moment and soak in what it is this is really telling us, shall we?

YOUR quoted story here states, "Cuomo said that New York needs an additional 30,000 ventilators..."

Agreed?

Then it also states, "The federal government has 20,000 ventilators, or thereabouts, in the federal stockpile,

Correct?

But next it tells us how Cuomo "explained" how, “Secretary [Alex Azar] runs an agency called HHS — Health and Human Services." and how his first priority is health.

Such a wise man, no doubt.

But all of this brings ME to have some questions for the one doing the preaching here. For example;

1) If NY needs another 30,000 and Trump is keeping 20,000 for himself, why does Cuomo think all those not being used right now should go to NY? Where they would STILL be short mind you....

2) The HHS he is chastising is a federal agency tasked with, as Cuomo correctly stated, "health". But the health of the NATION, not just NY.

3) Where are these 20,000 unused, hijacked ventilators anyway?

A national agency of health has to look at trying to do what they can to help the entire nation so any stockpiles would need to be distributed and in some sort of fair fashion.

Seems to me the good governor here is trying to get ALL of the nations ventilators, if they exist, as well as the NEXT 10,000 or so that may get built, for poor little 'ol NY and just damn the rest of the nation.

Selfish.
 
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JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
Associations representing physicians, hospitals and nurses are calling on President Trump to immediately use the Defense Production Act to intensify domestic production of medical supplies amid the outbreak of the novel coronavirus.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/488851-hospitals-nurses-call-on-trump-to-immediately-ramp-up-medical

I thought Trump fancied himself a war time president, yet he won't use the power he has to fully prepare for the battle.
I agree. The first thing he should do is place Nancy bug eyes under House arrest and charge her with malfeasance in office and attempted blackmail of the American people.
 
Trump essentially saying states should fend for themselves....instead of acting like the wartime president he fancies himself to be.

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States have governors for a reason. The President isn't our national daddy who is responsible for every little detail.
Notice DeWine didn't wait for Trump to do everything for him? You were praising DeWine last week! Too bad Cuomo and the governors of CA and WA weren't as smart. But then they are Democrats.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
States have governors for a reason. The President isn't our national daddy who is responsible for every little detail.
Notice DeWine didn't wait for Trump to do everything for him? You were praising DeWine last week! Too bad Cuomo and the governors of CA and WA weren't as smart. But then they are Democrats.
no, trump is responsible for everything..hadnt you heard..
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member

worldlymrb

Revenge
Has Trump put us on war footing against CVD-19? Nope.
I agree. Trump needs to assume the same war-time powers that Abe Lincoln and FDR wielded.

#1 Nationalize the Big Pharma Media Oligarchy and launch the National Emergency Broadcast System with 24/7 Trump briefings on the Coronavirus.

#2 Deploy the Chinese model to fight the Coronavirus by welding infected citizens doors shut, deploy thousands of police state drones barking orders at those who fail to comply with govt edicts. Then last and least to complete the Chinese model, ban all coronavirus testing and announce mission accomplished with zero new infections. <link>
 

Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
Here all this time I thought the USA was the champion and most revered in almost all areas of govt compared to other countries. It's not like it used to be that's for sure... Trump's know it all attitude and never ending blame games puts all of us in danger and it will be that way until he leaves office. IMO
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The Pentagon has expressed its thanks to South Korea for supplying coronavirus tests for US military use until American testing equipment arrived on the peninsula. On Tuesday, the Blue House said that South Korea was once again happy to come to Washington's aid.
According to the Blue House, Moon responded to Trump's request for equipment by saying, "If there's spare in the country, (we) will support as much as possible," and telling Trump that FDA approval might be needed for the medical equipment. According to the statement, Trump said he would take action so any South Korean exports could be approved immediately.
The Blue House version of the call contrasts with a White House readout, which said the two leaders discussed "their nations' respective efforts to combat the coronavirus pandemic," but made no mention of the US request for support.
As the US asks its allies for help, China is extending them a helping hand, exporting medical supplies and doctors to pandemic stricken countries such as Italy, where Milan received 25 tons of medical equipment from China Tuesday.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
Here all this time I thought the USA was the champion and most revered in almost all areas of govt compared to other countries. It's not like it used to be that's for sure... Trump's know it all attitude and never ending blame games puts all of us in danger and it will be that way until he leaves office. IMO
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The Pentagon has expressed its thanks to South Korea for supplying coronavirus tests for US military use until American testing equipment arrived on the peninsula. On Tuesday, the Blue House said that South Korea was once again happy to come to Washington's aid.
According to the Blue House, Moon responded to Trump's request for equipment by saying, "If there's spare in the country, (we) will support as much as possible," and telling Trump that FDA approval might be needed for the medical equipment. According to the statement, Trump said he would take action so any South Korean exports could be approved immediately.
The Blue House version of the call contrasts with a White House readout, which said the two leaders discussed "their nations' respective efforts to combat the coronavirus pandemic," but made no mention of the US request for support.
As the US asks its allies for help, China is extending them a helping hand, exporting medical supplies and doctors to pandemic stricken countries such as Italy, where Milan received 25 tons of medical equipment from China Tuesday.
How do you make America great again when Trump continues to depend on foreign govts for supplies...instead of using the Defense Prodction Act to make OUR companies produce them? That's a rhetorical question. <smirk>
 
How do you make America great again when Trump continues to depend on foreign govts for supplies...instead of using the Defense Prodction Act to make OUR companies produce them? That's a rhetorical question. <smirk>
And just why are we low on certain supplies? Here's a run down. Get ready to lose your smirk.
 

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
How do you make America great again when Trump continues to depend on foreign govts for supplies...instead of using the Defense Prodction Act to make OUR companies produce them? That's a rhetorical question. <smirk>
If another country had something that Americans needed and Trump didn't acquire it, you'd be screaming like a banshee about it.
Make up your demented mind, Julie.
 
How do you make America great again when Trump continues to depend on foreign govts for supplies...instead of using the Defense Prodction Act to make OUR companies produce them? That's a rhetorical question. <smirk>
And there's more:
The best example of this was the decision to fly back infected American passengers from the Diamond Princess. This fateful decision helped spread the virus inside the United States.
President Trump had been told that nobody with the coronavirus would be flown to America.
The State Department decided to do it anyway without telling him and only made the announcement shortly after the planes landed in the United States.
According to the Washington Post, as unfriendly an outlet to the administration as there is, "Trump has since had several calls with top White House officials to say he should have been told, that it should have been his decision and that he did not agree with the decision that was made."
Who in the State Department actually made the decision? That’s a very good question.
According to a State Department briefing, the missions were carried out by the Directorate of Operational Medicine within the Bureau of Medical Services. You might think that sounds like it would be part of HHS or NIH, but the Bureau of Medical Services is actually an arm of the State Department.
The Directorate of Operational Medicine is a part of the Bureau assigned to deal with crisis response with a $250 million portfolio and a lot of employees that almost no one outside D.C. ever heard of. At least unless you remember an event at which Barack Obama honored Dr. William Walters, the head of the Directorate, for evacuating Ebola patients to the United States.
"Now, remember, the decision to move Kent back to the United States was controversial. Some worried about bringing the disease to our shores. But what folks like William knew was that we had to make the decisions based not on fear, but on science," Obama said.
By “some”, Obama meant, among others, Trump, who had been a strong critic of the move.
Despite Obama’s end-zone dance, the State Department had badly botched the Ebola evacuations.
Under Bush, the CDC had prepped an evacuation aircraft for flying out contagious Americans. The Obama administration shelved the gear because of the cost, and then failed to make use of it. The evacuation process led to the same infighting between the State Department and the CDC as now.
Dr. William Walters is still on duty. In 2017, Walters was boasting of prepping more Ebola evacuations even over President Trump’s opposition to the practice. And he was once again at the wheel now.
“The question was simply this: Are these evacuees?” Walters explained the decision to evacuate coronavirus patients to the United States. “And do we follow our protocol? And the answer to that was yes on both accounts.”
Consulting President Trump was not part of the protocol even on a major national security issue.
In a Congressional briefing, Walters boasted that, “the Department executed the largest non-military evacuation of U.S. citizens in its history. The safe and efficient evacuation of 1,174 people from Wuhan, China and people onboard the Diamond Princess cruise ship in Japan is a testament to the agility, proficiency, and dedication of our workforce to accomplishing our core mission – advancing the interests of the American people.”
And the triumph of the administrative state and its bureaucratic protocols over the President.
At a State Department briefing, Walters stated that, “The chief of mission, right, through the U.S. embassy, is ultimately the head of all executive branch activities.”
That is the problem. Right there.
Walters got his job in 2011. He’s a relic of the Obama era. That doesn’t mean that his politics are those of his former boss. But this is not about him. It’s about the reality that the White House doesn’t make many of the most vital decisions and doesn’t even know that they’re being made until it’s too late.
And what that means, beyond the politics of the moment, is that the people don’t decide.
You can vote one way or another and the real decisions that matter will still be made by the head of a directorate that is a subsection of a bureau that you never heard of, but that has a budget in the hundreds of millions, a small army as its disposal, and will follow whatever the protocol is.
This is how the country is really run. And that’s the problem.
The underlying problem with our government is that it’s too big to control. Voting in an election or even sitting in the Oval Office doesn’t mean you’re in charge. The problem goes beyond the current obsession with the Deep State. The real issue has always been the Deep Industry or the administrative state.
If the coronavirus becomes a critical problem in this country, the blame will go back to an obscure arm of the State Department, but it will never be placed there. Whatever happens a year from now, no one outside a small professional class will have ever heard of the Directorate of Operational Medicine.
The media will spend all its time bashing President Trump, Pence, assorted cabinet members, and perhaps the CDC, without ever drilling down to the facts, even though it has them at hand. The media’s rule of thumb is that natural disasters and disease outbreaks are always successfully managed by Democrats and mismanaged by Republicans. Katrina and Maria were disasters, but Sandy was a success story. The coronavirus is a catastrophe, but the Ebola virus was brilliantly handed by smart people who are handling the coronavirus response. But it’s different because the guy in the White House is.
The truth is that all of these were mismanaged by the same agencies, many of the same people, and by a government infrastructure that excels at drawing up big budget proposals, but is inept at solving problems when they actually emerge, and just follow whatever protocols will cover its collective asses.
All the rest is a matter of the uncontrollable, the innate qualities of the storm or the disease, and the story that the media chooses to tell about the disaster in the service of its political agenda.
Even during the dying days of impeachment, the media was forced to realize that there was more interest in the coronavirus than there was in its attacks on Trump. The unfortunate decision to evacuate infected people to this country, against President Trump’s explicit wishes, provided the media with the opportunity to combine its attacks on Trump with the coverage of the coronavirus for ratings gold.
And if the stock market goes on falling, and the economy declines, it can even pull off a narrative coup.
Just as after Katrina and Maria, watch for the outpouring of lies, the claims that New Orleans had reverted to cannibalism and that everyone in Puerto Rico was dead, will be matched and exceeded.
There will be a cure for the coronavirus. But there’s no cure for the spread of viral fake news.
There is however a cure for the decisions that led to a coronavirus problem in the United States.
It’s called the Constitution.
America was meant to have a small government under the control of the people, not the bureaucrats. The real disease is bigger than the coronavirus. It’s a fatal illness called big government. Unlike the coronavirus, it has a total mortality rate. No society that has succumbed to it has ever survived.

 
How do you make America great again when Trump continues to depend on foreign govts for supplies...instead of using the Defense Prodction Act to make OUR companies produce them? That's a rhetorical question. <smirk>
And there is more:


Shall I keep going? Look what I am doing. I am providing facts the media has tried to cover up. LOL
 
How do you make America great again when Trump continues to depend on foreign govts for supplies...instead of using the Defense Prodction Act to make OUR companies produce them? That's a rhetorical question. <smirk>
Remember this? OH, and Trump had already stopped flights from China at this point:


There is still more, but I think we all get the picture.
 
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